Map Discussion Thread

Sytarenne:
I'm just saying if you unfolded a 3D sphere of the TNP Map then it would look something like that. Thats why the peirce quincuncial map was made, not because it was some nerdy guy who just wanted to make a cool-looking map projection.
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Ok, you lost me. I can't make sense of any of that, as it makes no sense whatsoever to me. I thought you said (and I agree, since I have a background in maths) that a sphere cannot be "unfolded" or flattened. And several map projections have been made for the sake of approximating the surface of a sphere on a flat surface. As well, calling a map projectionist "some nerdy guy" doesn't really show you as much of a nice person.

And all that doesn't matter anyway; as I said above (and as you apparently didn't read), OOCly, the cartography of the TNP world started on a flat surface anyway, so projections are entirely unnecessary.

Finally, your projection makes no sense. It places my nation, Darcania, far further north, near The Maplands, than it actually is, near Wolfsea. And it makes Andulus make no sense whatsoever. If that's a standard issue for that map projection, then it's a terrible map projection for the cartographers' purposes (determining location and distance).
 
It seems that some of the "beaches" or whatever they are from the physical map, when carried over to the political one, endured. Idk if Nierr just forgot it or if it's purposeful, but I think he might have forgot. These are on most of the new continents except one large one. To illustrate, I highlighted the beaches in red, (being sure to fill in a few gaps as there were holes in the beaches, meaning the fill tool would fill the inland bits too) and presented it side by side with the good continent.

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Just a question for Nierr: would I be allowed to make another small claim about the size of Galacta, or am I maxed out? I don't really know what I want yet, and I couldn't draw it if I had it right now, but I'd just like to know.
 
Would I be able to RP in an atoll far north off Ceretis? It's completely barren rock, with not a single plant or animal on it (because the ground is infertile). It'll be nicknamed "Death Island" (due to the lack of life) and will only be used as a test site. I can write the factbook story anywhere from this afternoon to tomorrow. A location will also be provided.
 
I got an idea, why don't the New Continents be some sort of "New World" (like the N+S America) and be discovered around the Late Medieval/Early Colonial Era?
 
Darcania:
Sytarenne:
I'm just saying if you unfolded a 3D sphere of the TNP Map then it would look something like that. Thats why the peirce quincuncial map was made, not because it was some nerdy guy who just wanted to make a cool-looking map projection.
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Ok, you lost me. I can't make sense of any of that, as it makes no sense whatsoever to me. I thought you said (and I agree, since I have a background in maths) that a sphere cannot be "unfolded" or flattened. And several map projections have been made for the sake of approximating the surface of a sphere on a flat surface. As well, calling a map projectionist "some nerdy guy" doesn't really show you as much of a nice person.

And all that doesn't matter anyway; as I said above (and as you apparently didn't read), OOCly, the cartography of the TNP world started on a flat surface anyway, so projections are entirely unnecessary.

Finally, your projection makes no sense. It places my nation, Darcania, far further north, near The Maplands, than it actually is, near Wolfsea. And it makes Andulus make no sense whatsoever. If that's a standard issue for that map projection, then it's a terrible map projection for the cartographers' purposes (determining location and distance).
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No map projection is perfect, I had little space that's why it is somewhere else. I only used unfolded because it was explaining where each place was if it was on an actual 3D map. Ever heard of the TNP Map on a globe?
 
Sytarenne:
No map projection is perfect, I had little space that's why it is somewhere else. I only used unfolded because it was explaining where each place was if it was on an actual 3D map. Ever heard of the TNP Map on a globe?
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Well, whatever, you can do what you want with that. I just hope you don't expect anyone to use your projection, or any other projection, since that would require projecting a flat surface onto a sphere surface, then immediately projecting the sphere surface straight back onto a flat surface, resulting in unnecessary aberrations.
 
Sytarenne:
I got an idea, why don't the New Continents be some sort of "New World" (like the N+S America) and be discovered around the Late Medieval/Early Colonial Era?
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I don't agree with this personally, in the future they'll probably be covered in map claims and treated like they've always existed. People will hacve established nations with histories extending hundreds, maybe thousands of years.
 
Xentherida:
Of course its far north. Far, far north.
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Oh, good, than I approve this message. (In case of certain weapons testing I didn't want fallout on my north coast or in my fishing waters.
 
Sytarenne:
I got an idea, why don't the New Continents be some sort of "New World" (like the N+S America) and be discovered around the Late Medieval/Early Colonial Era?
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Funny, because Kannex was colonized and founded in the Colonial Era and we're in 'the Old World'.
 
In my original concept for Sadakoyama, we would have been a cluster of islands surrounding a relatively small singularity (that generated our horrible weather) and also caused unusual and unpredictable temporal events, like ruined cities, dinosaurs, and even small islands popping in and out of our world (thus "chronosynclastic infundibulum").

So, the sudden appearance of a couple of new continents wouldn't have phased them.
 
Sadakoyama:
Revised claim for a science station.
Instead of being bigger than some countries, this one is a little bigger than my hometown (372 km2)

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Oh good, you'll be close to the joint colony!
 
Darcania:
Sytarenne:
No map projection is perfect, I had little space that's why it is somewhere else. I only used unfolded because it was explaining where each place was if it was on an actual 3D map. Ever heard of the TNP Map on a globe?
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Well, whatever, you can do what you want with that. I just hope you don't expect anyone to use your projection, or any other projection, since that would require projecting a flat surface onto a sphere surface, then immediately projecting the sphere surface straight back onto a flat surface, resulting in unnecessary aberrations.
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I think the simplest solution would be to think of the map as presented as a completely accurate projection.

Then the fun thing is to try to de-project it into a sphere again. :P
 
Syrixia:
Sadakoyama:
Revised claim for a science station.
Instead of being bigger than some countries, this one is a little bigger than my hometown (372 km2)

Jr9jJJ4.png
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Oh good, you'll be close to the joint colony!
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We're trying to learn how to play well with others... :)
 
Piscivore:
Syrixia:
Sadakoyama:
Revised claim for a science station.
Instead of being bigger than some countries, this one is a little bigger than my hometown (372 km2)

Jr9jJJ4.png
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Oh good, you'll be close to the joint colony!
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We're trying to learn how to play well with others... :)
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They should, a majority of my nation typically looks up to Sadakoyama in regards to intelligence.
 
Cronaal:
Piscivore:
Syrixia:
Sadakoyama:
Revised claim for a science station.
Instead of being bigger than some countries, this one is a little bigger than my hometown (372 km2)

Jr9jJJ4.png
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Oh good, you'll be close to the joint colony!
Click to expand...
We're trying to learn how to play well with others... :)
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They should, a majority of my nation typically looks up to Sadakoyama in regards to intelligence.
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Agreed. Such a powerful scientific entity as Sadakoyama should definitely work on collaborating with the International Community. It's very beneficial in the long run.
 
Syrixia:
Cronaal:
Piscivore:
Syrixia:
Sadakoyama:
Revised claim for a science station.
Instead of being bigger than some countries, this one is a little bigger than my hometown (372 km2)

Jr9jJJ4.png
Click to expand...
Oh good, you'll be close to the joint colony!
Click to expand...
We're trying to learn how to play well with others... :)
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They should, a majority of my nation typically looks up to Sadakoyama in regards to intelligence.
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Agreed. Such a powerful scientific entity as Sadakoyama should definitely work on collaborating with the International Community. It's very beneficial in the long run.
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Think of the valuable trade routes of valuable, exclusive materials!
 
We could do something like that. I wouldn't name them after nations, but we could discuss a possible naming convention for things like that, plus other stuff. I'll get a general world building topic up later tonight, but feel free to discuss - not decide, discuss - stuff like that in here for now.
 
I was going to host one of those international summits to discuss the Joint Colonization Initiative as well as the sea names.
 
Sea names would be something I'd prefer be decided in an OOC discussion to be honest.
 
I like the Eastern Ocean.

May I also suggest:
Sea of Time
Sea of Science
Sea of Monsters
Sea of Nothing
Sea of Holes
Sea of Green
 
Syrixia:
https://upload.vstanced.com/images/2015/07/15/tnpseas.png
I got bored and made a map with some ocean/sea names incase anyone was intrigued or interested.
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Well, since you named two of the seas after me, I might as well chime in on what the people of my nation actually call them.

Kalti:
- The sea surrounding the island chain to the north and east is called the Sea of Prosperity
- The inland waters that surround the various Castelli is called the Bay of Tribes

Tir na Andalucia:
- The sea to the south of that island landmass is called the Sea of the Four Clouds
- The inland bay that is to the west and north is called the Bay of Tranquility

Callaici:
- That straight between Callaici and Norway XXVIII is called the Straits of the Raven

Though, as Nierr suggested this would be a good OOC discussion thread. Also, I don't mind starting it and getting the topic going.
 
Kalti:
Syrixia:
https://upload.vstanced.com/images/2015/07/15/tnpseas.png
I got bored and made a map with some ocean/sea names incase anyone was intrigued or interested.
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Well, since you named two of the seas after me, I might as well chime in on what the people of my nation actually call them.

Kalti:
- The sea surrounding the island chain to the north and east is called the Sea of Prosperity
- The inland waters that surround the various Castelli is called the Bay of Tribes

Tir na Andalucia:
- The sea to the south of that island landmass is called the Sea of the Four Butts
- The inland bay that is to the west and north is called the Bay of Tranquility

Callaici:
- That straight between Callaici and Norway XXVIII is called the Straits of the Raven

Though, as Nierr suggested this would be a good OOC discussion thread. Also, I don't mind starting it and getting the topic going.
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To take inspiration, the people of Cronaal call the small ocean bit between the south-west and Nessuno/Axla/Sytarenne the Oak Channel.
 
Sadakoyama would just call the whole thing "The North Pacific" and refer to specific locations by their USDKY PNA (Planetary Navigation Array) Coordinates
 
Piscivore:
Sadakoyama would just call the whole thing "The North Pacific" and refer to specific locations by their USDKY PNA (Planetary Navigation Array) Coordinates
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Us primitive people will stick with our ocean names, thank you.
 
Piscivore:
Sadakoyama would just call the whole thing "The North Pacific" and refer to specific locations by their USDKY PNA (Planetary Navigation Array) Coordinates
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Well, remember, technically the proper name for the entire world would be Eve.
 
Syrixia:
Piscivore:
Sadakoyama would just call the whole thing "The North Pacific" and refer to specific locations by their USDKY PNA (Planetary Navigation Array) Coordinates
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Well, remember, technically the proper name for the entire world would be Eve.
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I like to go off the assumption that TNP isn't the only thing on our planet, The North Pacific makes more sense
 
Madjack himself has said multiple times, a couple times to me personally, that what you see on the TNP map is the whole world.
 
The known world. Not that I want to be encouraging you to go off and 'discover' some random land you want me to add to the map.
 
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