OOC: The Rise of the National Sonacist Party

Syrixia:
Been binge watching all the Family Guy chicken fights and I had an idea. What if we ended the RP off with a duel?
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You rang?

Anyway, still having to sort my sister out so will try to post bit I really am in a pisser of a mood ATM so apologies if I snap at anyone.
 
Yeraennus:
Kannex:
No, the Rhuvish will follow them. The ships' positions are known; they won't be hard to track from now on.


Of course not into lava, but your railguns will be disabled.


With exception of the Zumwalt destroyer currently in development, no US Navy warship generates enough electricity to allow for railguns to be functional. The only way is to outfit your existing destroyers with a system to support the railgun, which would just about remove your other weaponry. Not much defenses; glass cannon.


So basically, your ships took direct hits. No countermeasures.
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Anyone else want to explain how following an enemy with superior technology further out to sea (remember, you're already at 110 miles. Unless you want to tell me I'm not, in fact, in control of my navy) with a large section of your force is a bad idea? Or just take them from behind because they're tactically idiotic. That works.

I know the limits of Railguns. I know how they erode. I stated they were dismantling them to replace the rails. I'm beginning to think you object without reading my posts.

See above. It's getting bothersome now. And to boot, Yeraennus is a technologically advanced militaristic nation with an emphasis on naval superiority. The Typhoons are an extremely large and high-powered ships, more than just destroyers. The only warships larger than them are the flagships. Which also have Railguns.

Direct hits to the most heavily armored and best defended main class of ships, to be exact. Also, what part of "fast moving underwater projectiles" does not say torpedo? Rhuvish ships would've gotten just as screwed up as any Yeraenn ship you managed to damage. Unless your navy is magically a nuclear technologically advanced fleet with trained personnel that's also larger than my own, then you would've lost a full on encounter.

To be blunt, quit your bullcrap.
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There's no need to throw a hissy fit. I'm telling you right now that yes, you can be technologically advanced, but there's no saying that everyone else can't be technologically advanced as well. All 'technologically advanced' means is you have the latest in modern technology. High-performing railguns are not modern technology. All you will have are the railguns that are currently in US Navy development. What you do not understand is that submarines are meant to avoid detection, whereas surface ships have very little of that stealth. The submarines would not have been detected by the fleet. Certainly if you say that you have built your ships to be larger and well-armed than current RL ships, then they must be incredibly slow -- thus allowing Rhuvish submarines to easy pursue. Armor only does so much when taking direct hits -- your ships have no escort; your ships are slow and they are under attack. Your ships will be disabled.

You seem to think that we're stuck in the Early Modern Age of naval warfare. Ships don't line up on opposite sides and fire at each other anymore. Yes, the Rhuvish navy is trained and advanced -- relic of the Great War. It may not be as large, but a bunch of hidden submarines taking direct hits on slow, bulky ships with no escorts wins every day.
 
You guys should probably try to agree on how a battle is going to be handled before you just start randomly blowing each other up. It isn't supposed to be a pissing contest.
 
Hissy fit? Please. I'm calling you out on the bullcrap you're posting.

No escort? You apparently /aren't/ reading my posts. There are a large number of Yeraenn warships guarding the Typhoons. I found the class of ship Typhoons are by the way. They're essentially a little bit bulkier than cruisers.

In addition, your subs are meant to avoid detection, but you have yet to explain how these subs got 110 miles off-coast in open waters without pinging anything on state of the art detection systems and sonar. Sonar maybe, there are ways to prevent that, but not getting any reading from anything sounds like bullcrap, not even mentioning a surprise mass invasion of on-guard nations without any warning, and you /still/ object to any covert ops against you.

EDIT: Obviously not directed at you, McM. I do admit that I am rather more bothered by Kannex's bullcrap than I should be, but I feel like I need to call him on it.
 
Yeraennus:
Hissy fit? Please. I'm calling you out on the bullcrap you're posting.

No escort? You apparently /aren't/ reading my posts. There are a large number of Yeraenn warships guarding the Typhoons. I found the class of ship Typhoons are by the way. They're essentially a little bit bulkier than cruisers.

In addition, your subs are meant to avoid detection, but you have yet to explain how these subs got 110 miles off-coast in open waters without pinging anything on state of the art detection systems and sonar. Sonar maybe, there are ways to prevent that, but not getting any reading from anything sounds like bullcrap, not even mentioning a surprise mass invasion of on-guard nations without any warning, and you /still/ object to any covert ops against you.

EDIT: Obviously not directed at you, McM. I do admit that I am rather more bothered by Kannex's bullcrap than I should be, but I feel like I need to call him on it.
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From the southwest, away from the Typhoons, fast moving underwater projectiles pinged on Rhuvish sonar, indicating a larger fleet just beyond detection of the U-boats.
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You have a larger fleet beyond the detection of the u-boots, which means they are quite far away... not exactly an 'escort'. More like reinforcements. At any rate it's unlikely they will have detected the u-boots, especially since you have not detailed any specific anti-submarine countermeasures; the torpedoes are simply slamming into Yeraenn ships, damaging propellers and engines. As I have mentioned before, the only warships in the US Navy that can support railguns are those developmental warships; otherwise you would have to strip your ships of most of their other weaponry. Which would leave them even more defenseless to patrols. Slow, bulky, with little weaponry. Not exactly hard to track. I do not object to covert ops; I object to posts with thoughtless over-reliance on so-called 'superweapons'. The others are doing well, launching aerial attacks and helping to destroy the main Rhuvish fleet.
 
mcmasterdonia:
You guys should probably try to agree on how a battle is going to be handled before you just start randomly blowing each other up. It isn't supposed to be a pissing contest.
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This. There is no point in even RPing a battle - or an entire war - if everyone is not in agreement on how it should go. Otherwise it will just be like two children playing on a playground, changing the rules of their game to suit their own side.
 
Myroria:
mcmasterdonia:
You guys should probably try to agree on how a battle is going to be handled before you just start randomly blowing each other up. It isn't supposed to be a pissing contest.
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This. There is no point in even RPing a battle - or an entire war - if everyone is not in agreement on how it should go. Otherwise it will just be like two children playing on a playground, changing the rules of their game to suit their own side.
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I agree. It'd solve the crazed debating between Kannex and Yeraennus.
 
I'm just about ready to abandon this RP anyway. I haven't been allowed to do anything for no apparent reason, and Rhuvanland is becoming a Bellus Ex Machina.
 
Yeraennus:
I'm just about ready to abandon this RP anyway. I haven't been allowed to do anything for no apparent reason, and Rhuvanland is becoming a Bellus Ex Machina.
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The only thing you've done is the railgun attack.
 
Kannex:
Yeraennus:
I'm just about ready to abandon this RP anyway. I haven't been allowed to do anything for no apparent reason, and Rhuvanland is becoming a Bellus Ex Machina.
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The only thing you've done is the railgun attack.
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Enough. I don't want this craziness to continue further.

Both of you. Enough of this. Plan the battle out and then RP it.
 
/shrug

If you cause a mass of refugees, just know that the Rose Union is willing and able to help temporarily house any that are fleeing this conflict (this is in regards to the note I put out about the peacekeepers being called up). That and Callaici has offered to let you all use one of the local castles as a neutral meeting ground once you are done trying to outdo each other on killing and want peace.
 
@Plem: Thanks. :D

Yeraennus:
For about an hour, the Typhoon Class Cruisers dragged the Rhuvish ships further away from their port, seemingly attempting to escape, despite their mighty bulk preventing much speed from being built. Then, they turned. Eight warships, the largest regular ships in the Yeraenn Fleet, turned against the nipping and biting U-boats and pitiful Rhuvish navy. Then, the firing began, 5 inch cannons, torpedoes, missiles, all ripped off from the Yeraenn decks, striking the Rhuvish ships, tearing them apart in a confusion of smoke and explosions.

In all, a few fortunate ships escaped the wall of death in front of them, fleeing back towards their distant port. Their luck, however, did not hold out that long. Like a massive hammer against the anvil of the cruisers, the Yeraenn Destroyers hit the unlucky remaining ships. Thirty millimeter automatic cannons, firing depleted uranium shells, struck the ships, ripping them apart with as much mercy as starved wolves among sheep, as the last of the Rhuvish chasers sunk. The Yeraenn were not to be challenged by such a pitiful force at sea.

Though some of the cruisers were slightly torn up by the incessant nipping blows of the Rhuvish, they nonetheless sailed triumphantly through the burning wreckage of the Rhuvish, the Yeraenn warships turned back to their original mission. Bringing the anvil to the Imperium's hammer.
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This is godmod and I will not be recognizing this.
 
I have mod powers due to my position as Minister of Culture - not as an RP mod. I'm pointing this out because I'm a mod who happens to only be active in RP. I'm of the understanding that this position in fact gives me standing as head of the RP mod team, but this is not a standing I have used at any point.

At any rate, this is not an appropriate point for me to begin using that standing. I'm involved in the war, on Yeraennus' side, and I've discussed the war with him at length on IRC, so I'm formally notifying you that I will, on a personal basis, have to decline to rule on this matter.

Other RP mods are, of course, welcome to discuss the matter further.
 
It is inappropriate to write other people's losses without it being discussed beforehand through PM, IRC, Skype, or whatever method you prefer.
 
I'm not going to be able to post again today. Sorry guys but, I would seriously lose it with someone so it's better I keep out of any arguments for about a day, I've had some news and I very nearly shoved my fist through the window I was that pissed off. Sorry Guys, Will be back tomorrow but for now I need to get stuff sorted out.
 
Wolfsea:
I'm not going to be able to post again today. Sorry guys but, I would seriously lose it with someone so it's better I keep out of any arguments for about a day, I've had some news and I very nearly shoved my fist through the window I was that pissed off. Sorry Guys, Will be back tomorrow but for now I need to get stuff sorted out.
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At least you posted before. With my hectic school week I couldn't post at all.

What I wanted to post (which you can pretend Syrixia did) was send a giant airbone force to help the Allies take control of Rhuvish skies. I was also going to start bombing Alzenstadt but since peace terms are being made y'all can null canon that.

If you guys reallllly want me to post about that I can find time tonight or this weekend, but I often have writer's block when I'm not writing about things going on.
 
Wolfsea:
I'm not going to be able to post again today. Sorry guys but, I would seriously lose it with someone so it's better I keep out of any arguments for about a day, I've had some news and I very nearly shoved my fist through the window I was that pissed off. Sorry Guys, Will be back tomorrow but for now I need to get stuff sorted out.
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Alright, understood. Best of luck.

In that case I'll refrain from advancing the present storyline, but I will finish up the flashback by tonight (EST).
 
Kannex, Yeraennus, any objection to me making some comments/a ruling here?
 
By the by, re: Imperium's aerial bombings Kannex, there was no lull in fighting, except from Wolfsea (apparently). Esplandia, Imperium, Tajis, and Nebula have all refused to honour the ceasefire. I suspect Yeraennus will be doing the same. Also, you're sorely overestimating exactly how bad Imperium's aircraft are - they're the modern equivalent of MiGs. Cheaper and less heavily armed than someone like Wolfsea's or Yeraennus', but they're going to obliterate Rhuvanland's paperplane force.

And there are a lot of them. Numerical advantage is extremely important for dogfighting (which isn't a thing anyway), and it doesn't matter how poorly armed they are - they are built for range and maneuverability, and given that we're not dogfighting, each one only needs a missile for me to outnumber any given airfield trying to operate in four places at once (Tajis, the Yeraen fleet, targeting ours, and supporting Shei Ren). Hell, as long as they can get through armour, maneuverability and speed are what are important for dogfighting - the advantages that Imperium's fighters have.

I understand I didn't state it in clear terms, and I only implied it. This is a clarification of my implication.

I won't be posting on the invasion again until Wolfsea and Syrixia are feeling up to it, given the IRL concerns.
 
I posted but still sorting stuff out atm.


Basically my now soon-to-be brother-in-law has been treating my sister like an ATM, he owes her about £600 and she's been paying his rent for the last 3 months on top of the rent on her own flat. Basically he's been getting whiny and bitchy any time she spends her own money on herself and, because she didn't want to cause problems, I'm the only one in my family who knows this. We've been trying to sort this out for a few weeks but it was only this week I found out about his whining and the rent thing. I've asked him to sort himself out and he pretty much tried to blow me off with an excuse. Yesterday they told me he was going to propose to her and I flipped out big time, he's an immature bum and, honestly, she had to stay standing between the two of us because I was this close to throwing him out of there by his throat. Maybe I'm just being overprotective of her but it's still got me pretty mad today as well.

I will try to post again later once I've calmed down a bit more. btw yeah, there's going to be a fair bit of cold shouldering done after this is over. Also Esplandia, up to you man. Also I will probably have Sionne come out and admit she leaked the footage, I'm kinda pushing her towards becoming a wee bit Yandere towards Sebt thanks to Ayuda's influence just to add a bit more tension, nothing like a psycho AI to ramp up tension.
 
Cheers grim. I know its not something to stress over but I try to be as active as I can (I have a similar thing about being late, it irks me somewhat.) but thanks.

Also had an idea, perhaps Ceaser might find Sebt's parents and make Ein his champion for the duel. Thought could be a fun development and it lets me play crazy for a while as Ein and as Sionne.
 
Wolfsea:
Cheers grim. I know its not something to stress over but I try to be as active as I can (I have a similar thing about being late, it irks me somewhat.) but thanks.

Also had an idea, perhaps Ceaser might find Sebt's parents and make Ein his champion for the duel. Thought could be a fun development and it lets me play crazy for a while as Ein and as Sionne.
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Look, I'm not sure how I feel about that, because I don't know who Ein is :P.

If you're up to link me to a/the relevant thread, I can read up on it in my own time. No rush.
 
Well most of what's known about Ein is pre-rp, Sionne can be ms exposition but basically he is Sebt's father and the previous Khan who basically wanted to conquer the region and tried to install self destruct nukes in case Wolfsea was invaded. Sebt had to depose him in a duel and he's spent the Last five years on an island at the edge of Wolvesh waters and he'd gladly work for Ceaser if it meant knocking his son down a peg. As I said Sionne can give a way more detailed version of events IC.
 
Wolfsea:
Well most of what's known about Ein is pre-rp, Sionne can be ms exposition but basically he is Sebt's father and the previous Khan who basically wanted to conquer the region and tried to install self destruct nukes in case Wolfsea was invaded. Sebt had to depose him in a duel and he's spent the Last five years on an island at the edge of Wolvesh waters and he'd gladly work for Ceaser if it meant knocking his son down a peg. As I said Sionne can give a way more detailed version of events IC.
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If this is something you want to happen, throw me a PM about how you want to go about starting that line.
 
The Grim Reaper:
Seriously, Wolfsea, don't stress out about the RP - we're waiting on Syrixia anyway. You do you, man.
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What're you waiting on me for? I was out most of last evening- I'm a bit flustered.
 
Syrixia:
If I may, this RP is actually starting to bore me...
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Well you started it. Ha ha.

Yeah I'm just waiting for it to end so I can use it as a springboard to start my next bit of fun with Tajis.
 
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