Rhuvanland OOC

Despite considerable doubts about whether this RP will go the distance, I'm going to continue in this rp. Expect a post sometime tomorrow.
 
Site note, Cronaal, I now understand how you truly felt about the Eknorve Civil War as it went on. :)

Basically, the nation of "Rhuvanland" experienced a near-nation-shattering economic crisis and petitioned TNP for assistance. Syrixia responded quickly and the Rhuvish made a deal with Syrixia. Syrixia would guide Rhuvanland back to stability and help to protect them both economically and militarily. Controversy quickly arose over the legitimacy of these statements and even though these statements were actually true and not lies, the situation still managed to be controversial enough for a terrorist organization known as the Eden-Redeemers hailing from Nierr to threaten Rhuvanland and hijack a Rhuvish boat. Syrixia and Rhuvanland agreed to patrol the ports of the Rhuvish capital, Dunorion, in case there was a Redeemer attack. Meanwhile, the hijacked Rhuvish boat, the Arbus, is currently making its way into Dunorion. It has just landed and the Redeemers are likely going to exit and attack, but that's up to Nierr to decide what they do. In any case eventually a final skirmish will occur that will end the hysteria and bring peace and normalcy. The RP is planned to end on a light note, though the specifics have yet to happen and thus have yet to be decided.
 
It's not hijacked. It's owned and operated by a shell company registered in Rhuvanland. The captain and regular crew are ethnic Nierrese living in Rhuvanlands.
 
Syrixia:
This is why this OOC thread exists, to say that's ALL WRONG. Most Rhuvish people either support getting their nation on its feet with Syrixian guidance or don't care. Those that are in the opposition number very few and are around 5/6 made of extremists.

Perhaps your terrorists and the other extremists can tie into some sort of Eden-Redeemer attack. Otherwise it would add more, unneeded complexity to an RP that I don't want and didn't intend to be complex, and also now want to get over with quickly what with real life constraints, my anxiety problems, and my wanting to come up with a new story, that I really want to unveil later.

I think a final showdown between the Rhuvish & Syrixians against the Redeemers is what we need. There's nothing like a climactic skirmish to head all the controversy and end the story. For now at least; the main reason Rhuvanland exists is so I can toy with politics more; and have two nations I own talking and stuff.
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I actually have no idea what the Redeemers want; if Nierr can explain to us, that would be great.

You yourself answered there are extremists in the opposition. Well, you just met some of them.
 
The Redeemers want nothing but the safety and well-being of Eden.

"Eden" in this case being the planet. Look, this is all very small picture in terms of what the Redeemers are planning. This is essentially a very real training mission for them. The who is very much secondary to the what comes from it.

Don't get me wrong, the Redeemers aren't exactly going to be crying over having to kill Syrixian soldiers, but its like squashing a bug or something that's in the way. They're a very minor inconvenience in their thinking.
 
Hence why the Redeemers are basically a terrorist organization.

Also:
Kannex:
Another video surfaced shortly after. This appeared to be by different people; the camera quality was a notch below that of the first one. On the screen appeared a young woman in a business suit, with the Rhuvish flag behind her. She wore a serious, stern face behind her dark-rimmed glasses and she looked directly at the camera when she opened with, "We of the Rhuvish Freedom Party condemn the actions and messages of terrorists in our country. In the campaign to maintain our national sovereignty, we must take the course of nonviolence and peace. To kill is a serious sin. However, we maintain our position, as shared by most of the Rhuvish populace, that the Syrixians must withdraw their designs on Rhuvanland and respect the national sovereignty of Rhuvanland."
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No. This is godmodding. What if I made a party in your nation, Kannex, and did the same here? There is already an opposition group and a terrorist organization, no more. Also, HOW MANY TIMES MUST I REPEAT THIS? MOST RHUVISH PEOPLE ARE AGAINST THE OPPOSITION. Your post is not only godmodding but is also plain wrong and you are seeking to start a war. I was once like you. I thought wars should be in my RPs all the time. Then, the DU came along and showed me otherwise. Give peace a chance, stop stating incorrect facts about a nation that's not even yours and STOP GODMODDING.

Sorry if this was aggressive since I just read your post, but I believe I'm making a legitimate argument here.

On a side note, I've been having more anxiety recently. I think it's because of this RP and the sheer controversy I am literally drowning in coupled with my anxiety issuea. I'm having to go to sleep earlier, etc.
 
Syrixia:
Hence why the Redeemers are basically a terrorist organization.

Also:
Kannex:
Another video surfaced shortly after. This appeared to be by different people; the camera quality was a notch below that of the first one. On the screen appeared a young woman in a business suit, with the Rhuvish flag behind her. She wore a serious, stern face behind her dark-rimmed glasses and she looked directly at the camera when she opened with, "We of the Rhuvish Freedom Party condemn the actions and messages of terrorists in our country. In the campaign to maintain our national sovereignty, we must take the course of nonviolence and peace. To kill is a serious sin. However, we maintain our position, as shared by most of the Rhuvish populace, that the Syrixians must withdraw their designs on Rhuvanland and respect the national sovereignty of Rhuvanland."
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No. This is godmodding. What if I made a party in your nation, Kannex, and did the same here? There is already an opposition group and a terrorist organization, no more. Also, HOW MANY TIMES MUST I REPEAT THIS? MOST RHUVISH PEOPLE ARE AGAINST THE OPPOSITION. Your post is not only godmodding but is also plain wrong and you are seeking to start a war. I was once like you. I thought wars should be in my RPs all the time. Then, the DU came along and showed me otherwise. Give peace a chance, stop stating incorrect facts about a nation that's not even yours and STOP GODMODDING.

Sorry if this was aggressive since I just read your post, but I believe I'm making a legitimate argument here.

On a side note, I've been having more anxiety recently. I think it's because of this RP and the sheer controversy I am literally drowning in coupled with my anxiety issuea. I'm having to go to sleep earlier, etc.
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Go ahead, as a democratic nation I've plenty of upstart folks trying to start political parties. If Syrixia doesn't allow newly formed political parties, I doubt your nation's as democratic as it seems. I'm not godmodding; I just have two videos. I didn't kill your president or anything.

"Plain wrong"... this is a role-play about politics.

The Rhuvish Liberation Front would argue that Syrixia started the war through its attempted annexation.
 
Syrixia allows political parties, but you are godmodding and character hijacking.

I'm letting you use my characters to create one opposition group, because without an opposition this scenario is unrealistic. But, I do not appreciate how you are walking into this RP and creating more opposition than there actually is in this situation because you want the story to go a certain way.

I will let the RLF exist.
There is no RFP.

I don't want this argument to continue, I am literally about to go nuts with stress. This RP is just like Cronaal and his civil war. It caused him so much stress he overhauled his nation. I'm still going through, though.

Let's just figure out a way to get this over with so I can try new ideas, while still preserving and having fun with the story. I think that'd be better for all of us.
 
If this RP is causing you stress and anxiety issues then perhaps we shouldn't continue. RP should, above and beyond being a collaborative story telling exercise, be an enjoyable experience. If its actually causing you issues such as anxiety then obviously it isn't enjoyable and is actually becoming detrimental to your well-being, and no one wants that.

There certainly would not be any hard feelings were this RP to end for that reason.
 
I do not want to go the Cronaal approach and end the entire thing. I want to continue, I just want to make it more simple and less stressful. All I ask is that we don't have any more nations choosing sides. We have all the antagonists an RP can need; the Redeemers and the militant RLF.

If we can do that and put in much detail I believe we can make the story great. However I have some issues. Kannex, the Rhuvish Conservative Party is not part of the Opposition. Again, here you go tampering with my nation. Please edit your post so the RLF answers the phone. Then we can go straightaway to a good story.

And just a side note; let's not forget the Redeemers.

EDIT: Perhaps I have an idea based on Kannex's post. We can split the country into the conservative West Rhuvanland and the liberal East Rhuvanland. The Conservative Party could become the leadership of West Rhuvanland with the RLF as its military. Now I'm not saying I want this to lead to a war, but I think it'd be kinda cool to have a sort of Cyprus situation in Rhuvanland. Eventually we'd solve it perhaps, but I think it'd be a cool new element to contribute to the story's end.
 
I would probably end up involved if the nation is split. Having a very nationalistic nation on my border would be... Interesting.
 
Syrixia:
I do not want to go the Cronaal approach and end the entire thing. I want to continue, I just want to make it more simple and less stressful. All I ask is that we don't have any more nations choosing sides. We have all the antagonists an RP can need; the Redeemers and the militant RLF.

If we can do that and put in much detail I believe we can make the story great. However I have some issues. Kannex, the Rhuvish Conservative Party is not part of the Opposition. Again, here you go tampering with my nation. Please edit your post so the RLF answers the phone. Then we can go straightaway to a good story.

And just a side note; let's not forget the Redeemers.

EDIT: Perhaps I have an idea based on Kannex's post. We can split the country into the conservative West Rhuvanland and the liberal East Rhuvanland. The Conservative Party could become the leadership of West Rhuvanland with the RLF as its military. Now I'm not saying I want this to lead to a war, but I think it'd be kinda cool to have a sort of Cyprus situation in Rhuvanland. Eventually we'd solve it perhaps, but I think it'd be a cool new element to contribute to the story's end.
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Note: If you split it, it may take a while to rejoin it. East and West Pigletville are still not unified.
 
Bootsie:
Syrixia:
I do not want to go the Cronaal approach and end the entire thing. I want to continue, I just want to make it more simple and less stressful. All I ask is that we don't have any more nations choosing sides. We have all the antagonists an RP can need; the Redeemers and the militant RLF.

If we can do that and put in much detail I believe we can make the story great. However I have some issues. Kannex, the Rhuvish Conservative Party is not part of the Opposition. Again, here you go tampering with my nation. Please edit your post so the RLF answers the phone. Then we can go straightaway to a good story.

And just a side note; let's not forget the Redeemers.

EDIT: Perhaps I have an idea based on Kannex's post. We can split the country into the conservative West Rhuvanland and the liberal East Rhuvanland. The Conservative Party could become the leadership of West Rhuvanland with the RLF as its military. Now I'm not saying I want this to lead to a war, but I think it'd be kinda cool to have a sort of Cyprus situation in Rhuvanland. Eventually we'd solve it perhaps, but I think it'd be a cool new element to contribute to the story's end.
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Note: If you split it, it may take a while to rejoin it. East and West Pigletville are still not unified.
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Yeah political splits almost never reunify without force. After over 65 years Andulus and Ertolia have not reconciled. And after 35 years the Isle of Liren still doesn't officially contribute any troops to the A.D.L. (Andulan Military) and harbours the LSM (Liren Sovereign Militia) an anti-union terrorist group.
 
Lord Lore:
Bootsie:
Syrixia:
I do not want to go the Cronaal approach and end the entire thing. I want to continue, I just want to make it more simple and less stressful. All I ask is that we don't have any more nations choosing sides. We have all the antagonists an RP can need; the Redeemers and the militant RLF.

If we can do that and put in much detail I believe we can make the story great. However I have some issues. Kannex, the Rhuvish Conservative Party is not part of the Opposition. Again, here you go tampering with my nation. Please edit your post so the RLF answers the phone. Then we can go straightaway to a good story.

And just a side note; let's not forget the Redeemers.

EDIT: Perhaps I have an idea based on Kannex's post. We can split the country into the conservative West Rhuvanland and the liberal East Rhuvanland. The Conservative Party could become the leadership of West Rhuvanland with the RLF as its military. Now I'm not saying I want this to lead to a war, but I think it'd be kinda cool to have a sort of Cyprus situation in Rhuvanland. Eventually we'd solve it perhaps, but I think it'd be a cool new element to contribute to the story's end.
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Note: If you split it, it may take a while to rejoin it. East and West Pigletville are still not unified.
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Yeah political splits almost never reunify without force. After over 65 years Andulus and Ertolia have not reconciled. And after 35 years the Isle of Liren still doesn't officially contribute any troops to the A.D.L. (Andulan Military) and harbours the LSM (Liren Sovereign Militia) an anti-union terrorist group.
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If the reunification does involve conflict, mabey trinster could get involved.
 
I think a war would be alright if it was the price to pay to end the confusion surrounding the story.

However, that said, I'd like to deal with the Eden-Redeemers first. Perhaps we can pan away from the RLF-CC negotiations and focus on them first, then zeroing in on the East-West Rhuvanland separation.

I want to base the separation off the situation in Cyprus, with everyone including Syrixia recognizing the legitimate Rhuvish government in the East and one nation recognizing the breakaways in the West.

I won't go any further in time on this plan as we haven't crossed that bridge yet. As I said before, let's focus on the Redeemers.

That said, I feel a bit less stressed now. Hopefully this conversation doesn't descend back into what it was last night; and hopefully there won't be any posts that trigger that. :)
 
You're mistaken; the Rhuvish Liberation Front is the violent militant group that doesn't negotiate and isn't part of your peaceful Opposition, while the Rhuvish Freedom Party, if they're even based in Rhuvanland, is the peaceful group. Anyways, they are there, because anybody can create a group and call itself a party regardless of a following. Anyways, if your Conservative Party isn't in opposition to your Workers' Party, then I don't know what is. Give me one group that is a member of your legitimate Loyal Opposition, and I'll adjust the post. Note that with the latest post, I am definitely in control of at least one Rhuvish character with (what I believe to be) your implicit permission.
 
The Conservative Party. There is no RFP and the RLF is secretly associated with the Conservative Party so they have military support. Basically we're setting this up for the East-West Rhuvanland split.

EDIT: That said, your post looks fine, but please elaborate on how the Opposition is growing. Rhuvanland's conservatives are siding with the RCP (The Conservative Party) and Rhuvanland's liberals, the vast majority, are siding with the Rhuvish Liberal Party and the Rhuvish Workers' Party, who have formed a temporary political alliance. Perhaps the Rhuvish conservatives can move to the West and the others to the East. Again, setting it up for the split.
 
No, not all Opposition members are extremists, nor do they all condone violence. :P I'm thinking the Conservative Party are the peaceful group, whereas the RLF is a wholly new militant group and the RFP are simply a smaller group of anti-annexation folk. Perhaps the RFP are liberal, too, but more respecting of their national sovereignty.

With the liberal government selling out to foreigners, I think you'll see many more Rhuvishmen backing the Opposition. The inability of the government to address this concern is leading to opposition. That's the likely situation. At any rate, it's the view of Frau Rhein.

I'm still waiting on you to respond.
 
I want the East-West split to be apparent and clear. While not all oppositions are violent, I want this one to be so we can create a "Cypruslike" situation to end the RP with. Of course, in a week or two, I'll post something about the East and West becoming more peaceful and the two new nations becoming officially split from the other.

Also, the VAST majority of the Rhuvish are liberals and support the decisions of the government. While the opposition is growing, that's only because conservatives are moving toward the west.

Here's a possible plan.

Negotiations are held between the Citizens' Committee and the Conservative Party. The Conservative Party does not agree to any midways and so the alternative of an autonomous province is presented. Again, this is rejected and the notion of a new independent state for the conservatives is presented, which they reluctantly agree to. The Conservatives then secretly contact the Rhuvish Liberation front after the CC leaves and negotiations end, and the two groups agree to have the RLF become the new West Rhuvish military. This would then have West Rhuvanland formally secede with the approval of the Rhuvish government in Dunorion, East Rhuvanland. Then, we could focus on the Redeemers, which would warrant a different discussion.

I believe this plan is efficient enough. You seem to be the master of criticism, Kannex; what do you think? Can we agree on this plan?
 
Sounds like a good plan for an IC plan which your characters may suggest, but which my characters can either accept or reject. Let's talk IC and we'll see. But not everything will go according to plan and it isn't about the "most efficient" action. In the meanwhile, let's role-play.
 
I'll be that guy supporting the West. I think I'd be the best since TWN's one of the most anti-Syrixian states in all of TNP.
 
And I, honestly, have no problem with that. Hell, your nation's some sort of an NPO-style dictatorship.

Just try not to start a war this time. Negotiations are being proposed by the Liberals to the Conservatives.
 
Syrixia:
And I, honestly, have no problem with that. Hell, your nation's some sort of an NPO-style dictatorship.

Just try not to start a war this time. Negotiations are being proposed by the Liberals to the Conservatives.
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Nebula isn't dictatorial, just very imperialist and distrustful of basically everyone. ;)
 
Due to how Andulus recognizes countries plus the complex alliance system (Ideology, Clans, Parties, Political Blocs) in Andulan Politics Andulus would officially recognize neither side with a rough split of 131 Administrators pro-west. 178 pro-east and 201 voting to recognize neither. Which would make it legal in Andulus for political parties like the CC, SC, and GX (Conservative Collective, Security Coalition, Golden Xon) being able to funnel funds and weapons west while the LP, PLP and ACF (Liberal Progress, People's Labour Party, and Allied Communist Factions) doing the same in the east.
 
Nebula, feel free to play a Conservative Party to confer with my character Heidi Rhein. You can also play a West Rhuvish communist. I'm thinking both Rhuvish Conservatives and Rhuvish Communists are opposed to Syrixian domination, and both want to rule the newly independent West... which will lead to some drama.

EDIT: Make that anyone, anyone can weigh in on West Rhuvish decision-making and speak to my character Heidi Rhein, either on the phone or in person.
 
It's not Syrixian domination. It's Syrixian cooperation. Well, however you slice it.

Anyways why I actually made this post: Let's not have a war plox. Just a Cyprus situation that I can make more peaceful via newspaper bulletin post in the future, like maybe 1-2 weeks after the RP ends.

EDIT: I will say, though, a separate thread for a Communist-Conservative Civil War in West Rhuvanland would be interesting to watch. I could do an East Rhuvish reaction n' possible humanitarian aid to [SIDE UNDECIDED], though Syrixia would remain neutral.
 
I'm sure Eastern Europeans were told they were under Soviet "cooperation" as well.

I'll see how this unfolds to decide whether or not to have a war.
 
Say Russia didn't annex Crimea totally but instead gave it near-full autonomy and provided it various types of support. That's Syrixia and Rhuvanland.

And Kannex, that sounds good. I think you're doing this pretty swell; you and me can joint control conservative West Rhuvanland (though you'd post for it mostly) and Nebula can control its communists.
 
Syrixia:
Anyways why I actually made this post: Let's not have a war plox. Just a Cyprus situation that I can make more peaceful via newspaper bulletin post in the future, like maybe 1-2 weeks after the RP ends.
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Oh the pure unfiltered irony in that statement.

The Cyprus situation was a direct result of two invasions. First by the Greeks and then Second by the Turks. The second of which is STILL happening. The only reason that there is a Turkish Republic of Cyprus is because the Republic of Turkey maintains an active "peace" force of 35,000 troops in Northern Cyprus
 
Y'all are still welcome to speak IC with my character. I'll probably post 3pm EST tomorrow if I get no responses.
 
Now that the split is practically made (Since the Map has rendered it so and the meeting was practically over) as well as the fact that Nierr is basically out of the picture, (He hasn't posted in a while practically anywhere) I'd like to begin the "Nebulan attack on the West" part of the RP, since there seems to be quite a lot of buildup to it.

That said, I'd like to know where all who are participating stand. The East and Syrixia will be assisting the West against Nebula, naturally, and I am working on a surprise ending to the RP that I'm afraid I can't disclose just yet.
 
The split isn't final until the Citizens' Committee agrees to Western terms. I was waiting for Nierr, but we do have to finish the negotiations.
 
Alright, I'm waiting on your post then. However I still think it would be best if we planned the next part in advance so we could jump right in and it'd work.
 
I'll prepare for an coup d'etat. You all can go in and ensure it fails however you want; I'm not going to just kill the coup without any outside push.
 
A coup d'etat is going to make you look unstable and when I go in to fix it it'll make me look bad as well. A revolution would be better.
 
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