Citizen Petition - El Fiji Grande / Nov 2023 Judicial

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El Fiji Grande has petitioned us to review the exclusion of a private ballot from the results of the November 2023 Judicial Election. In keeping with Section 6 of the Rules of the Election Commission, we must review this decision made by the Election Supervisors and vote to either:

a. Uphold the decision of the Election Supervisors
To be clear, this would mean that the results of the election would remain unaltered.

b. Overrule the decision and continue the election
To be clear, this would mean that the results of the election would be amended to include the private ballot, but the voting period and the election would not be extended.

c. Overrule the decision and restart the voting period

d. Overrule the decision and restart the election


El Fiji Grande's original petition may be viewed here.

Voting will be open for 5 days, unless all Commissioners vote before that time.

As Just a Lore was a candidate during this election, they are considered absent for this vote.
 
If my calculations are correct, it does cause deciding the winner of the second justice seat to go three rounds instead of one, but it does not change the winner of that seat, and does not change the 3rd seat's results at all. Since the amended results do not change the result of the election, I vote...

b. Overrule the decision and continue the election
 
Strictly speaking, the supervisors did not make a conscious choice to discount a valid ballot. I am sure this is obvious to everyone but utilizing this mechanism does technically suggest that that is what happened, that they made an affirmative decision. I want to say for the record that we acknowledge that isn’t what happened. In certifying these results and leaving out that ballot, they made a decision that had the effect of excluding a valid ballot. That is the decision being objected to in this vote.

My vote is to b. Overrule the decision and continue the election
 
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We made an honest mistake, and it needs to be corrected. It’s as simple as that.

I vote b. Overrule the decision and continue the election.
 
I vote b. Overrule the decision and continue the election.
 
Legally speaking, the fact that a retroactive counting of El Fiji Grande's ballot would not change the winners of the election is irrelevant to whether or not we are empowered to change the results. The law makes no distinction in that regard. All it means is that by voting to correct it, we do not call the legitimacy of any of the Court Justices into question, which does make it far more expedient. The Rules of the Election Commission regarding this matter (section 6) seem to presume that any citizen petition would be submitted and processed during the voting period, as all the options are written so as to account for the Commission deliberating and choosing a course of action while voting is ongoing:
2. When [a citizen] petition is submitted, the Election Commission at large will promptly vote between the following options:
a. Uphold the decision of the Election Supervisors
b. Overrule the decision and continue the election
c. Overrule the decision and restart the voting period
d. Overrule the decision and restart the election
However, it is not necessarily incorrect to simply read those provisions as simply accounting for contingencies and not as presuming that petitions must be submitted before voting is over. The rules do not specifically state that citizen petitions must be considered during voting at all; it seems as though it was simply assumed that they would be by the creator of the rule. Unhelpfully for determining intent in that regard, the issue is never discussed in the thread where the EC adopted the current ruleset.

As for the Legal Code, it is also written in a way where it seems to presume that all citizen petitions would be submitted during voting, but like the EC rules that does not really mean that they may only be considered then, because it does not actually specify that (or any other time) as a time period during which petitions may be considered. This may be because the language in both the Code and the EC rules was created by the same person. The relevant provisions are:
18. Any citizen may petition the full Election Commission to review a decision made by the Election Commissioners supervising a given election. If necessary, the election may be halted while the Election Commission decides how to proceed.
19. If the full Election Commission determines that the actions under review are not in compliance with the law or their adopted rules, they will have the power, by majority vote, to overrule them. If deemed necessary, they will also have the power, by majority vote, to restart the election, or designate different commissioners to supervise the election.
Unfortunately, the thread in which the current EC system, as well as the citizen petition system, is adoptive, is equally uninstructive as to the legislature's intent as the EC rules adoption discussion is. Again, though, neither the Legal Code nor the EC rules expressly limit the time during which the results can be changed to before they are certified, which seems to be the view that has motivated the opening of this vote and that was pointed out by Fregerson on Discord.

The question of whether already-certified results can be amended has more thorny implications with outcomes which are very consequential for citizen petitions where the true winners of the election are at stake. The process behind choosing office-holders by election is that there is the election itself, and then the winners of the election are declared and take their oaths of office. This process is defined in section 4.1 clause 2 of the Legal Code:
2. All elected government officials will be required to take the Oath of Office within one week of their election, as certified by the Election Commission.
If we were to assert that we can amend the results after they are passed (which seems to be what is happening), we would be essentially asserting that for any election we have the power to alter who was elected, and that we have the power to do so at any time. Then, in accordance with the provisions of this clause, the individual who we newly declared to be elected would be required to assume their office (that they initially were certified to have lost), and the oath of the previous officeholder would be declared invalid. The problem is that the oath would have been entirely valid at the time it was taken, because it was based on the electoral results as certified by the EC. They may not have been the rightful winner of the election, but the law is very clear that the person who takes the oath and assumes the office is the winner as certified by the Election Commission.

So the question becomes: do we have the power to retroactively declare a valid oath to be invalid because we miscounted the results of an election or not? I have previously doubted that this is the case, but right now I am inclined to say that it is possible. This would not be not the removal of a government official from office by recall or disqualification (i.e. abandoning office, losing citizenship, removal by criminal sentence), this would be a declaration that an officeholder is not legitimately in place, and that they were only legitimately in place because the Election Commission made a legal error in counting the votes. The oath would have been legal because it was based on the certified results, but the certified results were wrong and required correction. Additionally, if we fail to properly respond to a citizen petition, the petitioner has every right to request judicial review to make that correction for us, ending up with the same result (and possibly invalidating someone's oath of office.)

Obviously, El Fiji Grande's ballot ought to have been counted. As I also believe that we are empowered to retroactively alter the results of an election, I vote for option (b), to overrule the decision of the election supervisors and continue the election (although there is none to continue :P.)
 
I have already voted on this matter but I would like to add a quick thought. I have proposed broader changes to our procedures which should help us handle future issues with respect to review of votes. The only thing missing from that would be changing the fact that supervisors are the only ones who can see private ballots and therefore we could still fail to catch this particular error. However, one thing we can do to eliminate this specific problem that we encountered would be to change how we handle the private ballot numbers. I propose that we amend the rules posted in voting threads and eliminate the voter's input on the ballot ID. Instead, I propose we generate a private ballot ID ourselves which we provide to the voter after receiving their vote. If this is done, the supervisors will need to send a reply to each private ballot they receive, and the number they generate will be entered into the spreadsheet when they process the vote. That should guarantee every private vote is entered into the spreadsheet and posted on the forum, and should prevent this sort of thing from happening. It can also make it easier for us to keep track of private ballots by having some form of uniformity to the IDs (perhaps they all have the same number of digits or we number them sequentially). As I understand it, this doesn't require changing our procedures, as there is no provision currently governing the use of ballot IDs (or even mentioning them all) in the EC procedures or the legal code.
 
Honestly, the active acknowledgement of receipt of a ballot is more important than who assigns the ballot ID. The same thing could be accomplished by the EC assigning a ballot ID only in the event of a conflict, as long as that acknowledgement of receipt is accompanied by a replacement ID. I would also suggest that acknowledgement would include a link to the post that includes that ballot so that the user can verify that it was inserted correctly, and so they know which post number is theirs.

Anyways, voting on the citizens petition is over. The result is a unanimous decision, with all 8 present commissioners voting for option B, to Overrule and Continue.
@Skaraborg and @Chipoli, please update the counting spreadsheet and then I will correct the results page. The missing private ballot has been posted here, marked as ballot 5119-E: https://forum.thenorthpacific.org/topic/9197707/post-10621378
 
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