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22nd October 2022​

Daughter of man who saved historic 'Flying Scotsman' to wave off locomotive in Swanage​

The steam locomotive was saved from being scrapped in the 1960s

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The daughter of the man who saved the historic ‘Flying Scotsman’ from being cut up for scrap in the 1960s - is to wave off the locomotive on Saturday.

Penny Pegler will be waving off ‘Flying Scotsman’ from Swanage station when it departs with a seven-carriage train at 10.05am sharp.
 
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Penny Pegler, daughter of Alan Pegler, who saved Flying Scotsman from being scrapped, waved off the LNER A3 on the first train of the day at Swanage station on Saturday 22nd October 2022.

Penny made the journey to Dorset from her home in Portugal to wave off the first train, before travelling on the second train of the day in the Swanage Railway’s Pullman observation car No. 14.

15 year old Fredrick Sills from Wareham played the bagpipes as Flying Scotsman departed.

A clearly moved Penny said:

“It was wonderful to wave off ‘Flying Scotsman’ on the first train of the day from Swanage because the locomotive has such a special place in my heart.

“It’s great to see so many people coming to see and enjoy ‘Flying Scotsman’ almost 60 years after my dear father saved her from going to a scrapyard. It’s a very special day for me,” she added.
 
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Later on Saturday at 11.45am, Penny will be riding behind the locomotive in the 1940s Pullman ‘Devon Belle’ observation carriage – known as Car 14.

The ‘Flying Scotsman’ was the Concorde of its day and was the first steam locomotive in the United Kingdom to haul a train at 100 miles an hour.

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Alan Pegler - Penny's father - purchased ‘Flying Scotsman’ from British Railways in 1963 for £3,000 and saved it from being cut up and scrapped for parts.

Now owned by the National Railway Museum in York, No. 60103 ‘Flying Scotsman’ will be hauling trains on Swanage Railway for five days: from Saturday until 26 October.

‘Flying Scotsman’ will also be on static display at Swanage from Thursday, 27 October, to Sunday 6 November.
 
Penny Pegler said: "Flying Scotsman’ was a very important part of my life as a child.

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"I was nine years old when my father came up to my room on a snowy night in January 1963, to say goodnight and told me, with a twinkle in his eye, that he had just bought a beautiful steam locomotive to save her from being cut up in a scrapyard.

“Over the next few years, my father and I went on many wonderful trips all over the UK with ‘Scotty’ as we called ‘Flying Scotsman’. For me, she was lovely and a special part of my family life.

“My father had a passion for ‘Flying Scotsman’, ever since he saw her as a four-year old boy in London and wanted to keep her running - not to be just a static exhibit – so it will be wonderful to see her hauling trains from Swanage into the beautiful Purbeck countryside.

“He wanted to keep her alive for future generations to enjoy and today she is everybody’s locomotive with everyone having their own special memory of ‘Flying Scotsman’.

"My father would be so happy to see that, and he must be looking down and smiling."
 

24th October 2022​

North York Moors’ LNER Teaks and steam locomotive 60007 Sir Nigel Gresley team up before winter maintenance​

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The 2022 season for the LNER Coach Association, Sir Nigel Gresley Locomotive Trust and the North Yorkshire Moors Railway came to a close last weekend.

Before 60007 Sir Nigel Gresley and the NYMR-based Teak set went their separate ways for winter maintenance, they paired up to form the annual LNERCA Members Special between Pickering and Grosmont, departing at 12:30.

A further twist was that the dining set departing Grosmont at a similar time was the NELPG’s annual dining special.

Back at the gala, younger visitors were amazed to find out that the the coaches were third class, with many comparing how comfortable they were compared to todays trains.
 
Nick Stringer, chairman of the LNERCA, said:

“We are proud to have had the A4 and the teaks together on the Moors during October and have been overwhelmed by the interest in our coaches from the ‘Elegant Era of Rail Travel’.

In fact the six cars in the train, five Gresley teak bodied coaches including the buffet car and the unique Thompson third corridor in its post-war ‘ersatz teak’ livery, with the black A4 are representative of LNER top flight trains in the years between the end of the Second World War and Nationalisation”.

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24th October 2022​

First Class 387 sent from London to Worksop for fitting of in-cab signalling​

The first Great Northern Class 387/1 has been dispatched to be fitted with ETCS in-cab signalling as part of the East Coast Digital Programme.

ETCS v3.6.0 and ECDP v1.1 will be fitted to the Electrostar.

A GB Railfreight Class 47 hauled 387101 from GTR’s Hornsey Depot in North London to Worksop Depot.

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The upgrades include
  • A new digital driver’s dashboard
  • A new AWS/TPWS system
  • Doppler radar and ETCS antennae beneath the soleplate
  • A European Vital Computer – the main computer – fitted at the body end of the first carriage
  • Software for a new train control monitoring system
  • Onboard ETCS software – in line with the latest revision of the ETCS standards
Static testing will take place at Litchurch Lane in Derby prior to dynamic testing at Network Rail’s RIDC at Melton Mowbray.

The first unit is set to return in July 2023, the remaining 28 387/1s will be fitted with ETCS in-house at the Hornsey Depot.
 
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GTR’s ERTMS Fleet Project Manager Aaron Meakin said:

“This is a watershed moment for us on the digital programme team. We’ve worked long and hard to get us to a place where we’re ready for this retrofit which will make these trains some of the most advanced in the UK for ETCS.”

Aaron Weeks, Project Director for Alstom said:

“This important milestone marks a key moment for the project and is a testament to the hard work of the Alstom team and the collaboration with our partners at GTR, Porterbrook and Network Rail. At Alstom we are proud to be at the forefront of the digitisation of the UK rail network and look forward to continued support of the ECDP in the coming years through the supply of our Atlas ETCS Onboard signalling product.”

Ed Akers, Principal Programme Sponsor, East Coast Digital Programme, said:

“This latest retrofit is another example of the industry partnership enabling progress towards a digitally signalled railway that works better for passengers and users. Over the next two years a range of vehicles across passenger, freight, heritage and maintenance sectors will be retrofitted and tested as we prepare to deliver GB rail’s first transition of an intercity mainline to ETCS operations.”

Ben Ackroyd, Chief Operating Officer at Porterbrook, which owns GTR’s Class 387 fleet said: “Porterbrook has been playing a key role in first-in-class ETCS projects to support Network Rail and the rail industry in the rollout of the Digital Railway.

“There has been excellent teamworking and collaboration across the industry to deliver this critical project, and it’s great to now see the first of our Class 387 GTR trains on its way to be upgraded with the new technology, and fully tested. This will ensure they can continue to operate on the East Coast once conventional signals are removed.”
 

24th October 2022​

Steam locomotive 35028 Clan Line withdrawn from service for repairs​

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The Merchant Navy Locomotive Preservation Society has announced that they have withdrawn 35028 Clan Line from service for the rest of 2022.

Work is currently being completed to repair the thermic syphons found on Clan Line at Stewarts Lane.

It has become clear though that more work is needed on the locomotive, and as a result, have withdrawn the locomotive from hauling any more tours in 2022.

Work will be completed away from Stewarts Lane and the locomotive will be transported to external contracts for the work.

Whist away, a retube and superheater elements will be fitted, and once these tasks have been completed and a hydraulic test and checks complete, Clan Line will return to Stewarts Lane.
 
In their statement, a spokesperson for the MNLPS said:

“Following work currently being undertaken with 35028 to repair the thermic syphons at Stewarts Lane, it has, unfortunately, become apparent that further work is needed on the engine. As a result, we will require more time to work on the locomotive. We have, therefore, taken the difficult decision to withdraw the locomotive from service for the remainder of the 2022 programme. We have also taken the decision to continue the work away from Stewarts Lane.”

“This has not been an easy decision to make but we feel it is necessary given the current circumstances. The MNLPS always strive to be professional and keep the best interests of the society, its members, and the locomotive at heart. We are confident that once this work has been completed, we will be able to return to mainline duties in 2023 and get back to doing what we do best.”

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Ooooh! :blink:

Almost missed this...........

20th October 2022

RAIB investigates runaway engineering train at London Liverpool Street

The stopping point of the train. looks like a Freightliner class 66.
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The Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB) has reported that on 2nd October an unattended freight train ran away from a platform at Liverpool Street station in London.

The incident happened at about 11:52 on 2nd October 2022, when an unattended freight train in platform 3 at the station ran away.

The signaller was alerted to the runaway when track sections in the throat of the station unexpectedly showed on the control panel diagram that they were occupied.

At the time of the incident, the part of the station that included platform 3 was under possession for engineering work.

The unattended train travelled about 150 metres before it came to a stop within the possession limits.

No one suffered injuries as a result of the incident, although a set of points that the train ran through were damaged.

The Rail Accident Investigation Branch has conducted a preliminary examination into the circumstances surrounding the incident.
 

26th October 2022​

Steam locomotive 60007 Sir Nigel Gresley to pass through Wakefield, Todmorden and Manchester today​

60007 Sir Nigel Gresley is to pass through Wakefield today as it heads home from its holiday at the North Yorkshire Moors Railway

Departing Grosmont at 06:05, the locomotive will pass through Glaisdale (06:27), Battersby (06:57), Nunthorpe (08:36), Middlesbrough (08:59), Eaglescliffe (09:23 – 09:44), Thornaby (09:56), Stockton (10:07), Eaglescliffe (10:24 and 11:07), Thirsk (11:35), Church Fenton (13:13), Castleford (13:37), Wakefield Kirkgate (13:50), Hebden Bridge (14:46), Todmorden (14:54), Rochdale (15:08), Manchester Victoria (16:33), Newton-le-Willows (17:04), Warrington Bank Quay (17:17) and Crewe at 18:08.

The above timings in brackets are approximate.

LNER A4 4498 SIR NIGEL GRESLEY running around her train at Pickering on October 12, 2022
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October 21st, 2022

Specially-adapted Land Rover clears leaves from Devon’s railway lines

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A specially adapted 4×4 vehicle that can travel on rails and on the road is being used this autumn to keep Devon’s branch lines clear of leaves on the tracks.

Each autumn, thousands of tonnes of leaves fall onto the railway and stick to damp rails.

They quickly break down into a slippery layer that acts like black ice on a road and makes it difficult for trains to stop quickly and causes trains to overshoot signals or platforms.
 
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In a successful trial, the vehicle, known as a Sand Rover, achieved an average reduction of 80% in delays caused by leaves on the tracks.

It was designed by Aquarius Railroad Technologies Limited and uses specially mounted wire brushes to clean slippery leaf mulch off the rails as it travels.

It also applies a citrus-based treatment to the track, which further helps to break up any leaves, and coats the rails with dry sand to provide a better grip for trains in wet autumn weather.
 
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Rail Head Treatment Train (RHTT)

This year, as well as the Sand Rover, Rail Head Treatment Trains (RHTTs) and traction gel applicators will be used to provide adhesion in key areas.

Network Rail uses four RHTTs on its Western route from Cornwall to Paddington, with one based at St. Blazey in Cornwall that is used each night between 6 October and 6 December to clear 340 miles of track across Devon, Cornwall, Somerset, and Wiltshire.
 
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The Sand Rover uses scrubbing brushes and a special citrus gel.

Network Rail also uses three more RHTTs across the route.

One in Didcot covers the Thames Valley area and two in Swindon covers the Cotswold area and Cardiff and the Welsh Valleys via Bristol.

The four rail head treatment trains keep almost 2,000 miles of track free from leaf fall mulch.

Craig Hocking, Network Rail’s infrastructure maintenance engineer, said:

“Our successful trial of the Sand Rover on the Tarka line in 2020 and Dartmoor line last year significantly reduced autumn-related delays for our passengers, which is why we’re fully utilising it this year to combat leaf fall.

“The Sand Rover is ideal for use on branch lines in Devon that see high leaf fall levels and allows us to proactively concentrate on specific areas and treat them quickly at the touch of a button from the cab of the vehicle.

“This year we’re pleased to be using the Sand Rover again at night when the trains aren’t running, with its proven track record of delay reduction. We’ll also be using our special treatment trains across Devon and Cornwall to clean the rails throughout autumn and our teams will be ready to respond to any issues that arise to minimise any delays for passengers.”

Scott Harrison, managing director of Aquarius Railroad Technologies said:

“We’re delighted that the Sand Rover has been so successful for the team in Devon.

“We understand that seasonal weather can be a real concern when trying to keep tracks safe for rolling stock, and ensuring a seamless service is of the utmost importance to Network Rail and operators alike.

“Sand Rovers are available for deployment across the UK, and we are proud to report that they can access even the hardest to reach areas of track. If a leaf can fall there, a Sand Rover can get there!”
 
October 26th, 2022

East Lancashire Railway used to test laser beams and plasma technology to clear autumn leaves​


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A futuristic method of solving the problem of autumn leaves on railway lines is being trialled by Network Rail with space-age technology that uses lasers and plasma jets.

During autumn, leaves on the rails are compressed by train wheels into a black Teflon-like residue ,which makes it harder for trains to brake or accelerate and causes delays to train services.

A fleet of leaf-blasting trains currently uses high-pressure water jets to clear Britain’s 20,000-mile railway network.

During the last few weeks, Great Western has been trialling a specially-adapted Land Rover to clear leaves from Devon’s railway lines.

The trials are being carried out throughout October by Network Rail using its multi-purpose vehicles (MPVs) on the East Lancashire Railway to see if autumn treatment trains fitted with laser beams and superheated plasma jets are as effective at cleaning rails as the current method that uses high-pressure water systems.
 
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The companies involved in the testing are:
  • Laser Precision Solutions is trialling the ‘LaserTrain’ that uses three high-powered beams on each railhead to treat the rails. When the intensity of the lasers strikes the railhead the contamination instantly vaporises (ablates) without heating up the rail.
  • PlasmaTrack is trialling direct current (DC) plasma technology that uses heat and active electrons to split things apart, with a high-energy electrical plasma beam tearing the leaf layer apart as well as heating and burning it off.
 
If the lasers or plasma trials are successful in cleaning the rails, further development work will be required to see if the technology would work on the live railway network.

Further studies would also be required to produce a business case for adopting the new technology.

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Suhayb Manzoor, Network Rail project engineer, said:

“Leaves on the line are often seen as a joke on the railway but they can cause serious problems and we’re always looking at new ways to tackle this age-old problem.

“It’s also not unique to Britain, with railways all over the world having issues when trees shed their leaves. For that reason, it’s exciting to be putting some of the newest technology out there to the test with the hope that one day it could help Network Rail keep passengers and freight moving safely at this operationally challenging time of year.”

Ben Medendorp, Laser Precision Solutions head of finance and commerce, said:

“Normally you really have to move mountains to get access to a railway network, so having a testing site like this which is secluded where you can take measurements every day is essential to gather data.

“I really do think that Network Rail is taking a leadership role in the industry by solving this global issue of low railhead adhesion. We are proving technologies and learning valuable lessons that could help railways around the world.”

Julian Swan, PlasmaTrack chief executive officer, said:

“Having three weeks of uninterrupted testing available on an operational railway isn’t usually possible so being able to carry out these trials with Network Rail and East Lancashire Railway have been invaluable.

“We’ve learnt a lot on how the autumn treatment trains (MPVs) currently operate, and how the PlasmaTrack system could benefit train wheel traction and protecting wheel-slide caused by leaves on the line.”

Mike Kelly, East Lancashire Railway chairman, said:

“When people think of heritage railways, they probably think they just look at preserving the past, but here at the East Lancashire Railway we want to be a moderniser too.

“We’re very proud to be able to play our part and provide our tracks and infrastructure to allow Network Rail to do their important research and development, and excited to be at the forefront of technology which could make millions of future journeys better for passengers across the country.”
 
October 27th, 2022

Transport for Wales launch Kids Go Free campaign

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Transport for Wales is supporting families and friends to get out and about in Wales and the Border this half term with their Kids Go Free ticket offer

Families and friends who fancy an adventure this half term can do so more cheaply as Transport for Wales introduces their Kids Go Free ticket.

The ticket will allow up to two children under 11 years of age to travel free for each fare-paying adult on all of the rail operator’s services.

A further benefit has also been introduced as the age range of the fare-paying adult has now been dropped from 18 and over to 16+.

The rail operator has also considered children aged between 11 and 15 who can also travel for free during off-peak periods on Transport for Wales services.

Off-peak travel covers from 9.30am to 4pm and after 6pm on Monday to Friday and any time of day on Saturday and Sunday.

As above, up to two children aged 11 to 15 will be able to travel free during off-peak hours with each fare-paying adult.

Children aged between 0 and 4 years of age are able to travel with a fare-paying adult for free at all times on all UK railway services.
 
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James Price, Transport for Wales Chief Executive, said:

“We understand this is a very challenging time for a lot of people as we face a cost of living crisis and we are committed to reducing the cost of using public transport.

“We’ve simplified our Kids Go Free offer to encourage as many people as possible to make the switch from cars to public transport, which can save money and also reduce their impact on the environment.”
 
October 27th, 2022

A1 Steam Locomotive Trust announce name for V4 locomotive

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V4, a new build project from the A1 Steam Locomotive Trust, will be named Highlander, the trust has confirmed.

The name was unveiled at the A1SLT’s Annual Convention on the 22nd October and the new name was met with wide approval by the trust’s supporters.

Back in 2015, the A1 Steam Locomotive Trust announced that V4 No. 3403 would follow in the footsteps of A1 No. 60163 Tornado and P2 No. 2007 Prince of Wales.

A1SLT Chairman, Steve Davies MBE, commented, “The name Highlander perfectly matches the history of the V4 class, and we look forward to enjoying an emotional and spiritual rapport with Scotland’s railway scene and with the country’s proud people, as well as operating in all other parts of Great Britain”.

No. 3403 Highlander will be able to travel almost anywhere on the mainline network and will be adapted to run on the modern railways of today.

The locomotive is set to benefit from:
  • Roller bearings
  • Dual braked (Air and Vacuum)
  • Welded boiler
  • Electrical system
  • Increased water capacity
The project is set to be officially launched with a Founders Club in Spring / Summer 2023.

More details of which will be announced soon.
 
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October 27th, 2022

Carlisle, Newcastle and Skipton trains to be disrupted ‘well into November’ after Clitheroe cement train derailment​


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Work is continuing to recover the freight wagons that were involved in last weeks derailment in Carlisle.

A Class 66 hauling 14 wagons, each filled with 80 tonnes of cement, derailed on Wednesday 21st October.

At the recovery scene, two wagons have been returned to the rails, although three of them will need to be lifted out by crane.

Before this can happen, specialist contractors need to empty them, and whilst more than 110 tonnes of cement has been emptied, it is expected that the cement wont be emptied before the start of next week.

The Environmental Agency has been monitoring work and no spillages have occurred into the River Petterill.

Rail replacement buses are in operation and the line is expected to be closed well into November.

This will affect services between Newcastle and Carlisle as well as Carlisle to Skipton trains.

Phil James, Network Rail’s North West route director, said:

“I’d like to once again thank people for their patience while we continue our difficult work to recover the derailed freight wagons.

“We’re working with multiple agencies to get to a point where the recovery operation can end and our major railway repairs can begin. There is still a lot of work to be done until we get to that point though, so I’d encourage passengers to check National Rail Enquiries if they are planning to make any journeys through the area over the next several weeks.”

Kerry Peters, regional director for Northern, said:

“We continue to work closely with Network Rail to minimise disruption for our customers while the recovery operation takes place.

Customers should still check before they travel and plan for longer journey times. We will share updates on our website and via social media when they become available.”
 
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October 28th, 2022

Rutland’s Rocks by Rail Museum achieves Arts Council Recognition​


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Arts Council accreditation of the largest railway museum in Rutland, Rocks by Rail, has been renewed.

Accreditation standards as applied to UK museums and galleries is the benchmark by which a Museum should be run.

It identifies agreed standards and defines good practice in order to encourage future development.

Being awarded Accreditation not only opens up funding opportunities but provides access to professional advice and support.

Donors and sponsors wishing to support the museum can do so in confidence that their contributions will help preserve the railway’s heritage and inspire future generations.
 
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Before the application for Accreditation was submitted volunteers carried out a large amount of work, both physical and paper-based.

Among the improvements were: better access for the disabled; reorganising relics, drawings, and artefacts; cataloguing; and arranging storage.

The full title of the museum is ‘Rocks by Rail: The Living Ironstone Museum’, and is sited on part of a former Midland Railway branch line near Oakham in Rutland.

To allow further improvements to be made, it will be closed over the winter period but will reopen on Easter Sunday, 9th April 2023.
 
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Ian Reeves, Chairman of Trustees, said:

‘We were delighted and proud to hear that we had secured re-accreditation of our volunteer run Museum. The assessment process was rigorous, the process was much impacted by problems caused by the pandemic and the result reflects enormous credit on our loyal volunteers.

“Special thanks are due to all who have helped achieve this. We believe that we have a great industrial heritage museum and it is good to have that confirmed by professional assessment.

“We are grateful for the support from Museum Development East Midlands and in particular the guidance provided by our Curatorial adviser Anita Hollinshead.

“Finally we must acknowledge the work of those volunteers who have gone before us, who developed the Museum Collection and set up a system on which we have been able to build.”
 
28 Oct 2022

A state-of the-art simulator is at the heart of a brand-new training facility opened by Transport for Wales.

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Mark Hardy-Johnson in the Class 197 simulator​

One City Place in Chester will play a key role in the training of 64 drivers and 56 conductors over the next year and will also be a training hub for station and ticket office staff, dispatchers, and the depot workforce.

The simulator will train drivers to operate the 77 brand new Class 197 trains, the first of which are currently in the final stages of testing and colleague training before entry into service this winter.

Jan Chaudhry-Van der Velde, Transport for Wales Managing Director, commented:

“We’re delighted to be opening our brand new training facility in Chester

“Chester has a long history as a railway city, dating back to the opening of the first railway here in 1840 – our investment in this new facility a stone’s throw away from the station will ensure it will continue to be an important centre for the rail industry for many years to come

“One City Place been fitted out to a very high standard, to ensure we’re providing the best possible facilities for our colleagues.”

TfW is investing more than £800m in new trains to transform the experience for customers across the Wales and Borders network, allowing TfW to deliver faster, more frequent services with better accessibility and reduced carbon emissions.

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28 Oct 2022

Rugby fans heading to Wales vs New Zealand game told ‘do not travel by train’​

Rail strikes are set to impact those making their way to the Autumn International match at the Principality Stadium on the 5th of November​

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Rugby fans travelling to the Principality Stadium on Saturday the 5th of November are being told not to travel either into or out of Cardiff by train due to strike action.

Unions RMT and TSSA are taking industrial action on Saturday the 5th, Monday the 7th and Wednesday the 9th of November.

TSSA has also revealed action short of a strike to take place on Friday the 4th, Sunday the 6th and Tuesday the 8th of November.

This latest strike action will equate to almost a complete week of railway disruption.

The 5th, 7th and 9th of November will see full strike action underway and will see the majority of trains on Wales and the Borders network suspended and with substantially reduced operations east of Cardiff to the valley lines only.

Transport for Wales is not involved in disputes with either RMT or TSSA but will see its services impacted due to requiring Network Rail staff to operate trains on most of its network.

International rugby matches usually see around 35,000 people travel by train into Cardiff and over 20,000 of those usually use train travel to return home.

The strike action means that inbound capacity on trains during the hours leading up to the kick-off at 15.15pm on the 5th of November will be significantly reduced, at two-thirds lower than normal.

No trains will be operating from Cardiff following the match as the final service of the day will leave Cardiff Central prior to 5pm.

As extreme restrictions will be in place across the rail network, fans travelling by road are also being advised to leave a good amount of extra time for travel and using the park-and-ride facilities at CCFC Stadium in Leckwith or County Hall in Cardiff Bay as the city centre will also see road closures in operation.
 
Passengers are also advised to only travel if absolutely necessary on Monday the 7th and Wednesday the 9th of November and to also check before travelling on Friday the 4th, Sunday the 6th and Tuesday the 8th of November.

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Nick Millington, acting route director at Network Rail Wales & Borders said:

“I’d like to apologise to passengers for the continued disruption due to industrial action.

“We never like having to tell people not to travel by rail but ensuring people can safely get home has to be our priority.”

Jan Chaudhry-Van der Velde, Transport for Wales Managing Director, said:

“The safety of our passengers is always our primary concern and, due to the severe impact of the industrial action on our ability to run services, we are advising customers not to travel by train on Saturday 5 November and to make alternative travel arrangements.

“We’ll continue to work collaboratively with our partners to ensure we can support the event going ahead as safely as possible.”

GWR Customer Service & Operations Director, Richard Rowland, said:

“We’re really sorry to all rugby fans who would normally be travelling with us to and from Cardiff Central.

“Unfortunately, due to the limited operating window caused by this industrial action, we’re unable to provide train services after the match and must therefore tell supporters not to travel to the game by train.”

Passengers with tickets are able to get refunds if they cannot travel on strike days and are also able to use their tickets on different days.
 
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