[SC - Passed] Commend Bachtendekuppen

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Commend Bachtendekuppen
Category: Commendation | Nominee: Bachtendekuppen
Proposed by: Libertanny | Onsite Topic​
The Security Council,

Noting that Bachtendekuppen was the Delegate of The East Pacific for a period of two terms (8 months), during which it served to protect the region from the threat of the Defender Act and managed to increase activity in the community,

Recognizing Bachtendekuppen's mediation abilities, which allowed for the creation of treaties with The North Pacific, Osiris, Taijitu and New Pacific Order (The Pacific), along with recognizing Bachtendekuppen as the inter-regional diplomat whose advice proved exceptional,

Further recognizing Bachtendekuppen's great contribution to the University of The East Pacific, creating the Library of the history of The East Pacific, and its recent help with writing regional chronicles,

Observing Bachtendekuppen's active mentorship to new Executive Staffers in the Regional Government and eagerness to help,

Applauding Bachtendekuppen's great work as the former Editor of the Eastern Pacific News Service (currently Ministry of Information), Minister of Foreign Affairs, Arbiter of Conclave, Minister of Culture and Education, Provost, World Assembly Delegate and many more,

Aware of Bachtendekuppen's current contribution to the region as the Magister, Vizier, member of Foreign Affairs Comittee and adviser to region-mates,

Further applauding Bachtendekuppen's undying loyalty to The East Pacific region,

Impressed with Bachtendekuppen's influence within all three parts of the regional government and several regions,

Further noting Bachtendekuppen's contribution to the Magisterium by drafting the Curia Act, an instrumental piece of legislature for the regional government,

Hereby Commends Bachtendekuppen.
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Voting Instructions:
  • Vote For if you want the Delegate to vote For the resolution.
  • Vote Against if you want the Delegate to vote Against the resolution.
  • Vote Abstain if you want the Delegate to abstain from voting on this resolution.
  • Vote Present if you are personally abstaining from this vote.
Detailed opinions with your vote are appreciated and encouraged!

Commend Bachtendekuppen was passed 10,116 votes to 5,728.
 
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Against. Commendations are for extraordinary contributions to the world, and he seems to have only really affected TEP.
 
Having worked with Bach I know his contribution to TEP is indeed commendable. But I find the resolution itself lacking, focusing mostly on Bach's actions within TEP. As a friend, I'd like to see Bach being commended, but these reasons aren't enough to support one.

Against
 
Against. I'm with BMW, Loh and QD on this- I know he contributed to NS as a whole, quite a bit, but this commendation doesn't properly reflect that. I'd vote for a proposal that properly reflected his wider contributions to the game more properly than this.
 
Against
This one seems a little narrow in scope outside of their contributions to TEP.
 
You know this chap well - I agree with what has been said thus far in debate, but also agree with what has been added by
@St. George therefore... Changing my stance to Present. I am personally abstaining from this vote.
 
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FOR

As people have mentioned above, no notable contributions the NS as a whole, mainly contributed to TEP

EDIT: After reading the arguments I see why he has done some good. I can see the potential work for being commended, I personally think its is commendable.
 
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No love for the person who helped get the treaty with TEP, one of our cherished allies? Well you guys sure are tough to please.

For
 
BMWSurfer:
Against. Commendations are for extraordinary contributions to the world, and he seems to have only really affected TEP.
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Loh:
Having worked with Bach I know his contribution to TEP is indeed commendable. But I find the resolution itself lacking, focusing mostly on Bach's actions within TEP. As a friend, I'd like to see Bach being commended, but these reasons aren't enough to support one.

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bowloftoast:
Against
This one seems a little narrow in scope outside of their contributions to TEP.
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Brendog:
Against

As people have mentioned above, no notable contributions the NS as a whole, mainly contributed to TEP
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Y'all are odd. Commendations are for anything that can get passed by the SC as evidenced by a ton of previous commendations:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=2/council=2 Commend Kandarin - delegate of TRR.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=40/council=2 Commend Starybladia - does Sports RP
https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=51/council=2 Commend Fudgetopia - TSP only
https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=87/council=2 Commend Warzone Codger - was delegate of a warzone
https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=119/council=2 Commend A Slanted Black Stripe - TEP only
https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=128/council=2 Commend Harmoneia - mainly Lazarus
https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=141/council=2 Commend 1 Infinite Loop - TEP only
https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=151/council=2 Commend McMasterdonia - mainly TNP
https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=157/council=2 Commend Improving Wordiness - 10,000 Islands mainly
https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=182/council=2 Commend Flemingovia - TNP only
https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=197/council=2 Commend Hell - exists and is founderless
https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=239/council=2 Commend Tsunamy - TSP only
https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=249/council=2 Commend Wintony - Illumati only
https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=252/council=2 Commend Solorni - mainly Balder

I'll note for most of those, TNP voted in favour. This idea that someone has to have contributed to NS as a whole (the hell does that even mean) to be commendable is laughable.
 
@St George I can't argue with that, since I supported several commendations included in your list. However I still cannot support this one.

Changing my stance to Present. I'm personally abstaining from this vote.
 
New Bremerton:
Abstain.

This has nothing to do with TNP or NS as a whole. No reason to vote against though.
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This does have to do with TNP, TEP has been a treaty ally of TNP for over 4 years due to Bach who you will notice signed the treaty with McM.
 
I agree that "Voting against Bach just because all he did was contribute to TEP" is a horrible argument. There is nothing wrong with being regionalist to ONE region. He created a treaty with TNP and is one of the best delegates TEP had in the past (however many years ago.)
He also worked with R3n (TNP delegate at the time,) both of them were delegates and that's when the TEP-TNP treaty happened. R3n is a retired NS innovator and the best (if not one of the best) inventor that NS has ever seen, who developed all the WADP programs for TNP, and provided technical advantages to former TEP delegates (Bach, and Ram, (and later myself))
Just say I'd support this for the sake of NS history, rather than because I know Bach (while he was in TEP when I was there, I never got to know him well)

1 EDIT/ MILD CORRECTION:
Wait, uhh, so I just found out Bach's TNP-TEP treaty was signed with McM (who was TNP Delegate) and not R3n. But the rest is still true
(we all posted at all at once at the same time, the timing >.< )
 
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I can't vote, but I wanted to say that Bach was a great ally and a great delegate of TEP, with a transformative impact on the region. We should absolutely be voting for this.
 
I can't help but think I did something in one of my previous terms to set the ministry's NS-wide contribution standard to such a weird setting.

For
 
lol I find the comments saying "so and so only contributed to 1 region" to be a bit sad. Especially when it's a fellow feeder. What is wrong with devoting yourself to one region? Do you not deserve to be commended for that?

Because I am contrary, I'll vote for. :P
 
Against

I have reason to believe he is not in fact a business puffin but is actually a business-casual penguin.

If the SC will maintain its ridiculousness I see no reason for me to not be ridiculous in kind.
 
Switching my vote to FOR

(edit: yeah, you don't need to tell me, i just realized. *facepalms*)
 
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