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I assume this is what you were pinging me for in Discord.

I have several questions.

  • Are you seriously blockading me for denying an application to Zusammenkommen? An application I suggested a fix for?
  • We did not discuss this RP. All that was stated is that I have little in the way of armed forces. Is this an attempt at bullying a weaker nation?
  • Is this happening during Zusammenkommen? If so, one, you're derailing the story (wildly), two, there are several highly-ranked foreign dignitaries either in or heading to Darcania. Furthermore, the world might not take kindly to attacking a nation during a cultural celebration.

I'd likely have several more questions, but these are the ones that popped out when I read it just now.
 
I'm sorry, but I simply can't accept this. I will not simply be a small nation for you to show off your tech/military. Feel free to post what you want there, but I'm simply not accepting this RP as canon.
 
190 ships... Really? Unless they're rowing boats then how in the name of the great god Daizan do you man and maintain them. Even I have less than 75 warships and I'm THE overly military klingon-turian Expy.
 
I'm sorry but no, I will have to view this is as null-cannon as well for the time being. One, it is ridiculous to attack / embargo a nation during a cultural celebration over a denied application in what to many nations could be viewed as an aggressive move or an act of war. Two, two of the largest navies in the world belong to the United States and Russia who each have roughly 270 ships available. We do not have a single nation on the map anywhere close to the size (land wise) or economic prowess of either of those two countries to have the capability of hosting such a large navy.

Edit: For the sake of being fair, the largest countries on the TNP map are roughly the size of Spain / Germany or a little bigger (not counting McM who is the exception to this). The Spanish and German Naval Fleets only have roughly 80 - 100 available ships and I see that as the most realistic range of available ships for the nations whose land area is that size.

Edit 2: Two exceptions to this are Italy and Japan which are smaller than the US and Russia in terms of land yet house a large naval fleet of 150 - 175 ships but both are offset by the fact that their Armies are smaller.
A perfect example here being Italy which has roughly 180 vessels but an Army of 100,000 people whereas Germany has half the naval size at roughly 80 / 90 ships but an Army of nearly 200,000 people.
 
Nightsong:
I'm sorry but no, I will have to view this is as null-cannon as well for the time being. One, it is ridiculous to attack / embargo a nation during a cultural celebration over a denied application in what to many nations could be viewed as an aggressive move or an act of war. Two, two of the largest navies in the world belong to the United States and Russia who each have roughly 270 ships available. We do not have a single nation on the map anywhere close to the size (land wise) or economic prowess of either of those two countries to have the capability of hosting such a large navy.
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Aye, ignoring the US/Russian/Chinese Cold War Dick-Waving sized fleets the Royal Navy is the fourth largest fleet and only has 77 ships (not counting the ones we have to power with rubber bands due to the general 'fuck you' attitude of our government to anything they can't privatize in secret, sorry for swearing but I'm from an old services family and seeing them shat upon by ungrateful civilians, especially the dregs like politicians, really angers me.)
 
I'm cool with this being non canon I really don't mind I was mostly just looking for a reason to write something at all. It would have happened at the same time as zummerkommelsen yes although it may have taken some period of time for the ships to journey that far to essentially bully you. The idea of an embargo is mostly just to piss you off and block naval trading which I imagine you don't have much of due to only recently opened boarders. The 190 ships includes about 70 auxiliary ships which are not actual warships as such but rather fuel tankers, supply ships and such but that couldn't be know by the character. My entire military is essentially navy as per it's huge size. The techislovakian government pumps fairly large amounts of money into the military mostly to encourage R'n'D but even so perhaps 190 is a touch big. Note: my reason for erring on large rather than small was due to the dragons which according to darc were somewhat immortal.
 
WHAT. :huh:

You're blockading him for denying your Zusammenkommen application as well as, quote, "to piss him off"?

The hell? I'm not recognizing this.
 
Techislovakia:
It would have happened at the same time as zummerkommelsen yes although it may have taken some period of time for the ships to journey that far to essentially bully you. The idea of an embargo is mostly just to piss you off and block naval trading which I imagine you don't have much of due to only recently opened boarders.
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See this is the core part that I have an issue with. What exactly did Darcania do to warrant such a reaction from a foreign power? Bullying and embargo tactics are tantamount to a declaration of war as stated by Darcania and with so many foreign dignitaries visiting his nation at this time, you cannot hope to get off free and clear without some international repercussion / sanctions from nations around the region.
 
As I said, see first line of my response. I'm cool with it not being Canon. I was looking for a reason to write, it didn't have to be good
 
Techislovakia:
As I said, see first line of my response. I'm cool with it not being Canon
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And I understand that. What I want to know is the question I posted which was: What exactly did Darcania do to warrant such a reaction from a foreign power?
 
Nightsong:
Techislovakia:
As I said, see first line of my response. I'm cool with it not being Canon
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And I understand that. What I want to know is the question I posted which was: What exactly did Darcania do to warrant such a reaction from a foreign power?
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Not much :P, the passive agressive application conversation was it [perhaps I read it with the wrong tone] but either way I interperit it how I will
 
Techislovakia:
I'm cool with this being non canon I really don't mind I was mostly just looking for a reason to write something at all. It would have happened at the same time as zummerkommelsen yes although it may have taken some period of time for the ships to journey that far to essentially bully you. The idea of an embargo is mostly just to piss you off and block naval trading which I imagine you don't have much of due to only recently opened boarders. The 190 ships includes about 70 auxiliary ships which are not actual warships as such but rather fuel tankers, supply ships and such but that couldn't be know by the character. My entire military is essentially navy as per it's huge size. The techislovakian government pumps fairly large amounts of money into the military mostly to encourage R'n'D but even so perhaps 190 is a touch big. Note: my reason for erring on large rather than small was due to the dragons which according to darc were somewhat immortal.
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Right...
Next time, ask before you start an RP. You don't technically have to, since anyone can really declare war, but just doing so is considered quite rude, imo. I offered you a way to start writing something, as well, since I stated Scian would accept you if you were realistic with your guards.
Also, it's spelled "Zusammenkommen", but feel free to just call it Zus so you don't have to recall all that.
...I don't really know why you specifically wanted to bully Darcania, either.
Also, I stated that I was immortal in Discord. As a joke. Actually being immortal would be godmodding. I had explained quite a few times that my dragons are specifically underpowered and I use no magic at all. The only really unrealistic thing, besides the dragons themselves, is the fact that there's a rare genetic mutation which has shown up twice in history that renders a dragon biologically immortal so they're immune to old age, but can still die. Feel free to read this post for details on that.

Seriously, though, I am not participating in this. I'm not interested in even a non-canon RP where my nation is simply bullied then rolled over by someone who seems intent on showing off their [redacted] for tech/military stuff by just rolling over a smaller nation that slightly offended them.

Feel free to actually attend Zus. I'm handing you a reason to write on a silver platter here.
 
I'm cool with that but still won't be attending Zus. I don't get a lot of free time so any reason to post has to be during those times which are not common. I prefer to write non canon stuff them at nobody participates in as this means I have no time limit or expectations.

Also thanks for the tip on the dragon lifespan (now I know your secret)
 
Techislovakia:
Nightsong:
Techislovakia:
As I said, see first line of my response. I'm cool with it not being Canon
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And I understand that. What I want to know is the question I posted which was: What exactly did Darcania do to warrant such a reaction from a foreign power?
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Not much :P, the passive agressive application conversation was it [perhaps I read it with the wrong tone] but either way I interperit it how I will
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I didn't really read it as overtly passive aggressive. More of a compromising tone in trying to reach a common ground in asking you to justify why you would need such a large military force for just ONE person and that he (Darcania) would have been fine would you have cut back on the number of guards and stayed within reasonable limits like the rest of us attending have.
 
Techislovakia:
I'm cool with that but still won't be attending Zus. I don't get a lot of free time so any reason to post has to be during those times which are not common. I prefer to write non canon stuff them at nobody participates in as this means I have no time limit or expectations.

(What? There's no secret here. Move along.)
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Please don't feel pressured to write non-canon stuff; remember, we're all here to have fun, and all of us here have the strange idea in our heads that telling stories with others is a good way to have fun. If you're not having fun in an RP, please feel free to say so and we can either discuss a solution or discuss a way to pull you out of the RP if you feel you're no longer having fun in it. We've all dealt with dead RPs before; if we can't handle it at this point, then we wouldn't be mature enough to RP in the first place.

Please feel free to give Zus a shot; I consider myself, with our without justification, one of the most inclusive RPers. The fact that I've successfully RPed with both Syrixia, who can post multiple short posts in a single day, and Bootsie, who will post maybe a single, thought-out, long RP post a few times a month or so, as well as my active attempts to get new RPers into TNP RP should show this fact. (No offence to Syr or Bootsie; you're both great.)

While I do have a limit with patience and do have problems with how I handle that, I still do have a lot of patience and I'm perfectly happy to let you try again. The only pressure I would put on you is a reminder to post every now and then, and you're certainly free to tell me, "Hey, I feel you're putting too much pressure on me, can you not remind me so often / at all?" and I'd be glad to comply as best as I can.

I've even mentored a few people on how to RP, and while not all of them had stuck around (a user named Yayness comes to mind, who showed great potential but never got around to actually RPing), I should think that anyone can RP should they apply themselves and do their best to talk out either issues or ideas with another person.

Again, please feel free to post in Zus. I respect your choice if you still don't wish to, but sometimes the best way to start writing is to simply start, and I'd be glad to guide you through a more relaxing, low-paced RP if you would like.
 
I'm already doing TEIN which is perfectly paced for me however thank you for understanding that I mean no disrespect when I say I will not participate in Zus
 
Techislovakia:
I'm already doing TEIN which is perfectly paced for me however thank you for understanding that I mean no disrespect when I say I will not participate in Zus
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Sure, feel free to let me know if you want to do an RP with me if you so wish in the future.
 
If you want an RP, if you change Darcania out and swap in Cogoria, I'm cool with crazy war schenanigans being canon. If you want to.
 
I'm up for that cogoria but it will be non-canon... are you already on the eras map? When I edit the original post what will I replace the dragon with/ how will the character know it is your country?
 
I'm on the map, up by Syrixia Coronal and Nebula.
The Cogorian destroyers would be flying their flags, they also have a red star on their bows.
 
Dragon can be replace with a maritime patrol plane, the arrival of that many ships would be under constant observation, patrol craft are normally armed with torpedoes too
 
oh bt dubs anyone who's screwin around with fleets up by cogoria is probably going to draw the Nebula ire, so I'd be getting into this most likely.
 
Nebula:
oh bt dubs anyone who's screwin around with fleets up by cogoria is probably going to draw the Nebula ire, so I'd be getting into this most likely.
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Who's side are you on if you do enter this rp?
 
If Cogoria attacks Goyanes, you will see capitalism rain down on your enslaved people in the form of thermonuclear bombs.
 
I'll be posting today. Cogoria posseses no nukes. However we do have a secret and extensive chemical arsenal.
 
alright, andrenne has made a statement- we're neutral but if you go in our airspace or in our waters with military stuff, we'll shoot at you
 
Once my air force launches, there's gonna be a lotta burnt sunk and exploded ships >:) gotta love soviet anti shipping tactics
 
Cogoria:
Once my air force launches, there's gonna be a lotta burnt sunk and exploded ships >:) gotta love soviet anti shipping tactics
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Good luck with that. You might be able to destroy us, but it won't be easy. We will put up a good fight. Trust me on that.
 
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