A Gameplay Ideology test I designed, measures Independentism along with other ideologies. if you want to skip a question, you can and to skip the part where it asks for personal info, just hit 'submit' and you will skip it. Anyhow Enjoy the Quiz!
I think many of these questions aren't directly applicable to nation states as they are to real life. That said:
Liberal Conservative or Right Libertarian Independent/Imperialist
It could also mean Left-wing Conservative or Socialist conservative. I wrote 'social' because their focus is on society rather than individuals. President Obama and Napoleon are the RL counterparts. Rockefeller Republicans or Conservative Democrats might appeal to you. The conservative of this test is more like Australian form rather than the American variant. Since I presume you took it as in game viewpoint, that might be the closest thing to it, I've noticed that the score alters a little bit when respondents considered In Character vs Out of Character. Generally speaking the IC scores are more conservative than their OOC scores. Elegarth for example is a centrist but center-conservative defender in game. Also recent test takers' scores imply that the category defender should probably be relabeled Anti-militarist or pacifist. Unibotian Defenderism is a little strange in the sense that it is Militarist for otherwise pacifist ends("War for Peace" mentality). Would explain why he annoys a lot of people, he's that committed to his ideology. The high end of the power dimension would be Raiderism or Militarism.
Plembobria:
I think many of these questions aren't directly applicable to nation states as they are to real life. That said:
Liberal Conservative or Right Libertarian Independent/Imperialist
I agree, but there still is some correlation. I tried to make it more Nationstates Context than otherwise. Military questions are probably the most applicable.
Yeraennus:
Liberal Conservative or Right-Libertarian Defender
Means that you're a constitutionalist if in America. The moderate Tories in Britain might also appeal. Look this and this over. see what you think. Also remember that your IC score is slightly different from OOC.
Libertarian Socialist or Left-Libertarian Defender
62% Liberty, 77% Equality, 23% Stability and 25% Power!
Your commitment to both liberty and equality makes you a blend of the Liberal and the Socialist. For you liberty and equality are two parts of the same condition. Everyone has to be free to pursue their own way-of-life but in order for that to happen everyone must start with a similar basic standard of living. You value liberty particularly in cultural and personal life. You also value government intervention to promote equity in economic life while still supporting private enterprise.
You are generally opposed to militarism and would rather people settle disputes through diplomacy rather than war, but you aren't averse to defending the weak against oppressors.
Hm. I answered it from a more OOC perspective and got State Capitalist Defender, which seems to be more in line with how I think. The previous result was odd, since IC my nation is very liberal except for authoritarianism in regards to political power.
Hm. I answered it from a more OOC perspective and got State Capitalist Defender, which seems to be more in line with how I think. The previous result was odd, since IC my nation is very liberal except for authoritarianism in regards to political power.
Your country sounds like it is either a Bonapartist country, or Red Tory. Some of Hamilton's economic system like tariffs to protect infant industries, might appeal to people in your nation.
He tended to view financiers with extreme suspicion and placed the blamed the excesses of the French Revolution on Jacques Necker and was somewhat forgiving of Robespierre's insanity(he was his friend at one point). He fought constantly and bitterly with Necker's daughter Madame de Stael throughout his life. She got banned from the country once.
Your level of commitment to liberty is like that of the Anarchist but your recognition of other principles makes you more like the Liberal in practice. For you if someone has liberty then they can win other things like equality or stability for themselves. The only role for government that you accept is the enforcing of laws to preserve your person and property from criminal acts. All other activity is best left to persons working alone or collaboratively for their own benefit.
Your way-of-life cannot accommodate the commitments of a full-time insurrectionist but you are keen to lend your spare time to all kinds of subversive behaviour. Besides which all those occupations and pickets can be lots of fun. In your own life you try to model alternative ways of living.
You are generally opposed to militarism and would rather people settle disputes through diplomacy rather than war, but you aren't averse to defending the weak against oppressors. Overall, you believe in Revolutionary Liberalism.
State Capitalist Defender
38% Liberty, 77% Equality, 46% Stability and 8% Power!
You think that equality is important for a society. Society cannot be an inclusive association till equality for all is achieved. You feel that this must extend beyond legal and political equality to include equity in power. As such you advocate for both equality-of-opportunity and the redistribution of what you consider to be excessive political and social power.You regard government as a vital tool in implementing these reforms but accept that government cannot do more than society allows it to and so you work within the confines of parliamentary democracy. You are likely to want a predominantly interventionist government. You tend to prefer a cosmopolitan and permissive culture but find that it can frustrate the solidarity so important to your movement.
You are generally opposed to militarism and would rather people settle disputes through diplomacy rather than war, but you aren't averse to defending the weak against oppressors.
I feel like this describes me pretty well actually. Pretty much exactly what I believe both in RL and in NS, especially the last line. This is a cool quiz!
This quiz seems rather close, maybe add in a dash of Cosmopolitan Left-Libertarian Defender and it might be about there.
Liberal Cosmopolitan Defender 85% Liberty, 38% Equality, 38% Stability and 17% Power!
You think liberty is important both for yourself and for all of humanity. You respect others and think it is important that everyone be given the opportunity to make decisions for themselves rather than have authority figures tell them what is best.In fact you believe this fundamental right should be defended against all would-be tyrants. The autonomy of every person is important to you but you think there are times in which personal action needs to be limited. As such you recognise that there is a role for government as long as it depends on the consent of the governed – this makes representative government important to you. You prefer the role of government to be small. In practice you will tolerate government activity as long as it is efficient and allows you to get on with your life. You are likely to advocate for both a predominantly free political environment and a cosmopolitan and permissive culture.
You are generally opposed to militarism and would rather people settle disputes through diplomacy rather than war, but you aren't averse to defending the weak against oppressors.
Your commitment to both equality and stability makes you a blend of the Socialist and the Conservative. This combination may seem unusual but consider the way in which both think loyalty to community takes priority over loyalty to oneself. You recognise the value of traditional culture and institutions. You hope that a combination of traditional values and social justice will protect your way of life. You are concerned that the twin forces of liberalism and cosmopolitanism promote selfishness and erode community standards.
All that being said you believe that the community must maintain a strong military to defend its interests, but also believe diplomacy would work just as well.
Not sure whether the "conservative" refers to the RL characterizations of socially conservative/liberal (where I am usually described as very liberal).
If it refers to what Unibot used to call cosmopolitanism-regionalism, with "conservative" corresponding to the regionalist part of the axis, then I'd say it's fair.
<p><em>Your result for Nationstates Gameplay Ideology Test...</em></p><h4>Conservative Imperialist</h4><p>46% Liberty, 8% Equality, 69% Stability and 100% Power!</p><div><p>You think stability is important for a society. You feel that ‘change for the sake of change’ is stupid and that political changes need to be limited to only those things that are demonstrably necessary. The traditional institutions of society have ‘stood the test of time’ and therefore work better than untested proposals. The most important institution is the family which you consider to be the fundamental unit of any society.Another institution you value is government and you recognise parliamentary democracy as a useful way of ensuring that only incremental change occurs. You are likely to embrace traditional culture. You tend to prefer a predominantly free society <em>but</em> only to the extent that it can be accommodated by traditional culture – some of the products of society are way too crass for your liking.</p>
<p>All that being said, you believe that your region should dominate the Nationstates world via an aggressive military policy and that militarism in society should be promoted. You might even sympathize with Raiderists but find some of their acts destructive to the stability you so cherish and seek in the world.</p></div><p><a href="http://www.helloquizzy.com/tests/nationstates-gameplay-ideology-test">Take Nationstates Gameplay Ideology Test</a> at <a href="http://www.helloquizzy.com/">HelloQuizzy</a></p>
I answered with gaming communities in mind. The questions seemed to be based on real life politics, but in ten years of leading or moderating online communities, I find that to not really be applicable. Even in a "political" game like NS. That said, I got:
You believe any form of class struggle or political revolution is unnecessary for socialism to emerge. You believe that people of all classes can voluntarily adopt their plan for society if it is presented convincingly.You feel that your form of cooperative socialism can be established among like-minded people within the existing society, and that small communities can demonstrate the feasibility of their plan for society.
You are generally opposed to militarism and would rather people settle disputes through diplomacy rather than war, but you aren't averse to defending the weak against oppressors.
I think this is generally accurate. In an online community where anyone can leave with the click of a button and go somewhere else, I've found people are most happy and engaged when they have a real say in charting their own gaming experience. They don't like it if people in leadership positions become overbearing or their demands don't match the desires of the players.
Many people don't want to participate in management roles, but do want their voice to be heard. Open dialog and consensus-building is probably the most important part of maintaining a positive environment without flamewars and internal drama.
Generally I prefer a simple set of rules and guiding values, with specific issues being decided upon by consensus when needed. That said, I understand e-lawyering is an important part of NS. In that context, I'd like things to be as democratic and transparent as possible, with a very strong Regional Assembly. Indeed, TNP's democratic structure was the biggest factor in my joining. Many regions claim to be democratic, but I've seen that is not always the case in practical terms.
As far as war goes, I lean heavily towards honoring obligations to allies, standing up to griefers and trolls, and making allies based on their character rather than their stats. Any offensive war should have a casus belli more justifiable than "we didn't like them" or "we wanted a live-fire exercise."
I finally took the test. While I favour diplomacy over militarism, I am not a defender by any stretch of the words - I've ordered the capture and destruction of regions in the past (not as Delegate of TNP or Sovereign of Alexandria) and am not shy about ordering the military to act as I feel is needed.
I'm reluctant to share the result but:
State Capitalist Defender
38% Liberty, 69% Equality, 31% Stability and 33% Power!
I finally took the test. While I favour diplomacy over militarism, I am not a defender by any stretch of the words - I've ordered the capture and destruction of regions in the past (not as Delegate of TNP or Sovereign of Alexandria) and am not shy about ordering the military to act as I feel is needed.
I'm reluctant to share the result but:
State Capitalist Defender
38% Liberty, 69% Equality, 31% Stability and 33% Power!
Try the 2nd one(Independent vs Defender quiz ), it's only 3 questions(well 6 but 3 you've already seen before). That should fix the 'defender' label you got. Shows you're more of a pacifist tbh based on that score and when I compile a complete 5D quiz, I'll re-label things. The first quiz I made was before I was 100% sure Independents were on another dimension. I am a bit surprised your stability score is as low as it is, my keyword density analysis shows you with a heavy Stability bias(75-80% consistently). I guess because of your heavy use of legalese.
Kondratev:
I answered with gaming communities in mind. The questions seemed to be based on real life politics, but in ten years of leading or moderating online communities, I find that to not really be applicable. Even in a "political" game like NS.
Yeah it is. I found RL political positions useful in mapping internal forum disputes(Forum Order vs Activity vs Free Speech), but it has its limits. You seem to be biased towards activity then over strict forum rules/bureaucracy, if the RL->NS holds based on your score. I am also testing how different RL politics is from NS politics by using that quiz(from what I can tell it needs further refinement, perhaps differentiating management policy from ideals might be helpful). That said glad to see you liked the quiz.
Hm, I don't entirely agree with this given the above, but I do accept it fits me somewhat better:
Pacifist Independent
33% Power and 73% Interests!
You reject the Right of conuest that Raiders uphold, but you don't believe in the Defenders solution of active and militant, idealistic opposition to them either. You believe that concerns about Policy should be determined by circumstances and characteristics of a given situation.You are generally opposed to militarism and would rather people settle disputes through diplomacy rather than war, but you aren't averse to defending the weak against oppressors.
Your result for Nationstates Gameplay Ideology Test ...
Liberal Cosmopolitan Defender
77% Liberty, 38% Equality, 46% Stability and 50% Power!
You think liberty is important both for yourself and for all of humanity. You respect others and think it is important that everyone be given the opportunity to make decisions for themselves rather than have authority figures tell them what is best.In fact you believe this fundamental right should be defended against all would-be tyrants. The autonomy of every person is important to you but you think there are times in which personal action needs to be limited. As such you recognise that there is a role for government as long as it depends on the consent of the governed – this makes representative government important to you. You prefer the role of government to be small. In practice you will tolerate government activity as long as it is efficient and allows you to get on with your life. You are likely to advocate for both a predominantly free political environment and a cosmopolitan and permissive culture.
You are generally opposed to militarism and would rather people settle disputes through diplomacy rather than war, but you aren't averse to defending the weak against oppressors.
I wish Blue Wolf were here to see this. It says I'm a Fenda!
For the other quiz, I got these results:
Your result for The Independent vs Defender Test ...
Neutralist
75% Power and 82% Interests!
For you moderation is key. You believe that commitment to your principles is important, but it should not neglect concerns of organizational interest. For you Raider and Defender are both important but believe that they shouldn't dominate totalitarianly the affairs of others, and especially at the expense of political concerns.
You also believe or desire to maintain a strong military organization in aggressive preparedness for war, but think the role of the military should be in service to your other principles.
I reserve judgment based upon the circumstances and the particular interests of the region. Raiding or defending...sometimes they're flip sides of the same coin
My results for the first: Liberal Cosmopolitan Independent, 62% Liberty, 38% Equality, 46% Stability and 75% Power
You think liberty is important both for yourself and for all of humanity. You respect others and think it is important that everyone be given the opportunity to make decisions for themselves rather than have authority figures tell them what is best. The autonomy of every person is important to you but you think there are times in which personal action needs to be limited. As such you recognise that there is a role for government as long as it depends on the consent of the governed – this makes representative government important to you. You prefer the role of government in society to be small. In practice you will tolerate their activity as long as it is efficient and allows you to get on with your life. You are likely to advocate for both a predominantly free political system and a cosmopolitan and permissive culture.
You also believe or desire to maintain a strong military organization in aggressive preparedness for war, but think the role of the military should be in service to your other principles.
Higher power score than I expected.
Second result: Neutralist, 58% Power and 55% Interests
For you moderation is key. You believe that commitment to your principles is important, but it should not neglect concerns of organizational interest. For you Raider and Defender are both important but believe that they shouldn't dominate totalitarianly the affairs of others, and especially at the expense of political concerns.
You also believe or desire to maintain a strong military organization in aggressive preparedness for war, but think the role of the military should be in service to your other principles.
