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Wait, so my citizenship is being revoked? I only disappeared on this forum website, because I was active on the Nationstates website.
Pay closer attention, @The New Siberian islands... It's not being revoked.As such, we will be correcting this error by adding them to the citizenship sheet, with their citizenship effective date being 7th September 2021,
Glad to have you aboardHappy to rejoin the team, Mr. Speaker!
Have they, Mr Speaker?The nation of @Dar Es Saalam has been banned from the forum/region and they have lost citizenship (duh).
Ruling on Regional Officer Banning during NationStates Events:The court notes, however, that for purposes of losing citizenship, ejections do not constitute leaving the region, since the ejected nation was forcibly removed and took no action to leave. Thus, under the law as it currently stands, ejected citizens would remain citizens until they ceased to exist, returned the region and then departed of their own volition, or failed to post on the forum for over 30 consecutive days.
Well apparently not, because being banned permanently by admin isn’t enough, and I didn’t realize that. Citizenship re-added, so we can wait out the 30 useless days in which they can’t post on anything anyways.Have they, Mr Speaker?
That sounds not only reasonable, but would appear to be in my view the only correct course of action for the Speaker's office to take. Would have been better if it had happened 10 days ago, but the next best time is right now.In case of Fregerson not coming with said audit, as Deputy Speaker I would be inclined to grant the citizenship to those who gained it automatically and to those who still have a resident nation. I understand that those who don't have a resident nation should be given the citizenship and then removed since they don't have a resident nation (See Section 6.2.18 of the Legal Code).
I believe this would be unnecesary movements, but since we have to move as such, they would be declared citizens only to be taken away such fact from said legal point.
Those who haven't posted in the last 30 days will be given the 30 days from the point where their citizenships become "active" to say it in a way that could be understood.
I understand that Fregerson may be busy and RL comes first. That is why I propose such solution as Deputy Speaker.
In light of this, should we expect any further action from the Speaker, especially regarding the hinted r4rs? It has been a week since he last gave any kind of response on this.The situation has been normalised as best of my abilities. They have been accepted citizenship, and those who still don't have a nation in TNP have been promptly taken away their citizenship.
The Speaker does have something planned as far as I know, but I can't answer for them as to what it is.In light of this, should we expect any further action from the Speaker, especially regarding the hinted r4rs? It has been a week since he last gave any kind of response on this.
In light of this, should we expect any further action from the Speaker, especially regarding the hinted r4rs? It has been a week since he last gave any kind of response on this.
What is the reasoning behind this reversal of the decision to file R4Rs, especially since the R4R that was actually filed didn't relate to the issue that was encountered?And no, I do not expect to do another R4R unless the one I submitted turns out in the wrong way.
I guess thinking through and looking at the result of the recent R4R, it seems that I was overthinking the entire process. And my original R4Rs planned wouldn't exactly have solved the issue either - it was either we change the laws or I resolve it using present means.What is the reasoning behind this reversal of the decision to file R4Rs, especially since the R4R that was actually filed didn't relate to the issue that was encountered?
What changes were made aside from any that were due to the citizenship non-rejection issue?I will update that an audit on the forum-side citizenship list was done to match the list on the official citizenship registry. Together with the changes made with regards to the resolution of Zyvet's post, both lists now properly matches.
Dar Es Saalam's status on forumside and on the excel sheet wasn't really matching - in fact they were removed from the citizenship roll forum side and on the excel sheet. I have reinstated them back, and sent out a reminder to my 2 deputies not to remove them again till the 30 day posting criteria wasn't met.What changes were made aside from any that were due to the citizenship non-rejection issue?
Have they lost residency? If not, then they still ought to be masked as residents.@Philly Macaroni and @the president of vananatu have failed to post on the forum or RMB for 30 days and therefore have lost citizenship.
Yes, that was a mistake on my part, they have been masked as residents.Have they lost residency? If not, then they still ought to be masked as residents.