Mr Insanity
TNPer
We alright with this proposal, however one part maybe need to be edit:The Spokesman of Eumenor:
- "-Weapons must be used proportionally. No nukes or chemical weapons." You seemed to missed biological weapons aswell?
The Helmebaine Alliance
- Thread starter Syrixia
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I'm not suggesting we use chemical weapons back if we are being attacked by a chemical weapons user. What I wonder is how we would handle a chemical weapons user if we can't (and won't) use chemical weapons.Cronaal:
Mr Insanity
TNPer
My opinion to that, we shouldn't to do the same thing what our enemy despite if they got a greater advantage to us. That still would ruin our reputation of being a moral country, if we retaliate using the same weapons. If that country use any sort of WMDs, we should go asking a internation organization(s) or another country(s) to help us out in any way? Aswell, if that country been defeated, they will be prosecuted by a internation court (If we have one?) because they broken a international law (If there is one surrounding WMDs?)?
Kannex
TNPer
If war is to be held as the last resort, then in more than enough cases there will be no higher power that can help us but God. The North Pacific Treaty Organization will not be able to help us if the laws of war are violated against us. The Kannexan Empire suggests we keep tactical stockpiles of chemical weapons for last-resort retaliatory measures, under the express policy of no-first-use.
I humbly but strongly disagree. If a nation is found out using chemical weapons in war, eventually the press will find out, it will be all over the media, and the elaborate chain reaction of doom will begin. Even if it doesn't, some way or another the user is going to get condemned and ultimatum'd again and again.
However, more importantly, instead of debating about conduct during conflict, let us discuss how we can prevent conflict and prevent illegal weapons use.
However, more importantly, instead of debating about conduct during conflict, let us discuss how we can prevent conflict and prevent illegal weapons use.
Kannex
TNPer
Alexander Torsten shook his head slowly. "I'm afraid you place too much hope on the media. Oftentimes war will obscure the facts, and government censorship will not help either. If we are faced against an aggressive, brutal, and unreasonable enemy willing to use chemical weapons, then the only language we have is retaliation. The bullet.
"But," he added, "I must note that chemical weapons should most definitely be our last resort, and only if we have no other choice."
"But," he added, "I must note that chemical weapons should most definitely be our last resort, and only if we have no other choice."
A usb drive arrived in a small ebony box bearing the Wolvesh seal. The drive was examined carefully and found to contain two videos, one hologram-compatible and the other in 3D using the forward cameras of the holorecorder suite. As the message began the form of the acting Khan, appeared, she was trying to appear imposing but her frame lacked Sebt's natural presence"Leaders of the Helmebaine alliance, you will forgive this missive's sudden appearance I trust but it is of vital importance that we reach you." Her manner and tone somewhat clashing with her youthful voice "The peace and security of our region is of great importance to us, five years ago our forces, under the orders of the previous Khan, were set to engage in a war of conquest until the entire region was ours, fortunately the Khan was able to foil our father's ambitions and has dedicated us to the cause of peace." she paused for a moment "During the war we fought alongside the forces of your alliance, together we helped rebuild South Cronaal and it is our belief that our goals are mutual. Therefore I wish to suggest a non-aggression pact between the Khanate and the Alliance. As a sign of good faith you may choose the location for our negotiations, all I ask is a berth large enough for one of our vessels, I also include the connection codes for the Wolfmoth Network so you may reply quickly." Before the message ended, the codes in a hidden folder.
Mr Insanity
TNPer
The United States of New Sekai is for the talks with Wolfsea, We should note our nation is a allies to Wolfsea.
We too welcome a non-aggression pact with Wolfsea, and diplomatic talks.
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Full Nation Name: The Imperial Japanese Empire
System of Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State:n/a
Head of Government: Emperor Saburo Natsuo
Reason for Applying: I would like to expand my relations with the countries in this alliance.
What Can You Contribute to the Alliance?: Ship, Electronic supplies. Oil
Your Nation's Representative to the Alliance:Hiroshi Itsuo
Any further comments?: Im just waiting for the next update to come so my nation can be on the map.
I,Emperor Saburo Natsuo of The Japanese Imperial Empire, do solemnly pledge to help the Helmebaine Alliance uphold safety and cooperation between its members and to never engage in conflict with any other Alliance members. I swear to help protect the other Alliance member nations in their time of need, and to not use my nation's armies for expansionism and/or colonization maliciously and/or without a specific, good reason. I shall help to ensure the stability of the Alliance member nations and the Alliance itself; and I shall, like the golden eagle Gimrahir who symbolizes the Alliance itself, help the Helmebaine Alliance fly and shine.
System of Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State:n/a
Head of Government: Emperor Saburo Natsuo
Reason for Applying: I would like to expand my relations with the countries in this alliance.
What Can You Contribute to the Alliance?: Ship, Electronic supplies. Oil
Your Nation's Representative to the Alliance:Hiroshi Itsuo
Any further comments?: Im just waiting for the next update to come so my nation can be on the map.
I,Emperor Saburo Natsuo of The Japanese Imperial Empire, do solemnly pledge to help the Helmebaine Alliance uphold safety and cooperation between its members and to never engage in conflict with any other Alliance members. I swear to help protect the other Alliance member nations in their time of need, and to not use my nation's armies for expansionism and/or colonization maliciously and/or without a specific, good reason. I shall help to ensure the stability of the Alliance member nations and the Alliance itself; and I shall, like the golden eagle Gimrahir who symbolizes the Alliance itself, help the Helmebaine Alliance fly and shine.
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Ignore this post. The one before it was the one i meant.
Felis
TNPer
It has been decided.
In a vote at the East Kray Tower, the small, but growing, government of Cronaal has voted 68% Aye, 22% Nay, 10% Abstain in the vote toe leave the Helmebaine. It is my job to, regretfully or not, tell you that Cronaal officially has withdrawn itself from the clutch of the Helmnebaine Alliance and shall be set free. We thank you for your protection.
Yours Sincerely,
In a vote at the East Kray Tower, the small, but growing, government of Cronaal has voted 68% Aye, 22% Nay, 10% Abstain in the vote toe leave the Helmebaine. It is my job to, regretfully or not, tell you that Cronaal officially has withdrawn itself from the clutch of the Helmnebaine Alliance and shall be set free. We thank you for your protection.
Yours Sincerely,
Xentherida too is willing to accept them into the Helmebaine Alliance, provided that they can also contribute vehicles, munitions and food supplies/rations for soldiers, albeit on a small scale.
With this, we would also like other Alliance members to note that we are switching our representative. Jackson Palmer is to be trained as an embassy diplomat, with Christopher Williams to take over his job. Also, we will now be taking a greater role in this Alliance; providing supplies, mainly petroleum, ammunition, and weapons, and providing training to troops, along with troops to be deployed in more conflicts, albeit mostly in peacekeeping, although the rest will be committed to fighting with the other Helmebaine Alliance members.
With this, we would also like other Alliance members to note that we are switching our representative. Jackson Palmer is to be trained as an embassy diplomat, with Christopher Williams to take over his job. Also, we will now be taking a greater role in this Alliance; providing supplies, mainly petroleum, ammunition, and weapons, and providing training to troops, along with troops to be deployed in more conflicts, albeit mostly in peacekeeping, although the rest will be committed to fighting with the other Helmebaine Alliance members.
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The Imperial Japanese Empire can apply almost anything military related because we are one of the top military's in the world. Very organized and everything.
Lots to do today.
Syrixia welcomes the IGE into the Alliance should they be accepted. We move for a vote.
McMasterdonia has called for action against Eumenor, an Alliance member, following the failure of Eumenorian security to prevent the death of the McMasterdonian queen by terrorist attack. Thoughts?
Candidacy declarations for Secretary-General will start now. They will end on Friday.
Kannex
TNPer
The Empire of Kannex votes in favor of the IJE's admission into the Alliance. (Remember, all 'for' or 'abstain' votes and no 'against' votes and we're fine.)
Kannex would like to review the status of Eumenor's past contributions to the Helmebaine war efforts before we rush to any sort of military aid.
Kannex would like to review the status of Eumenor's past contributions to the Helmebaine war efforts before we rush to any sort of military aid.
Sierra
TNPer
- TNP Nation
- True Sebland
We are also willing to exep IJE into the Helmebaine Alliance, as they can provide vehicles, soldiers and lots more to the members that need them, Therefore True Sebland votes for in the vote.
The Spokesman of Eumenor
TNPer
Against.
No military intervention will be necessary. I want to impress upon the Helmebaine powers that we are doing all we can in accordance to the proper procedures and the best interests of all involved.
No military intervention will be necessary. I want to impress upon the Helmebaine powers that we are doing all we can in accordance to the proper procedures and the best interests of all involved.
Against.
That's not enough. If you won't let the world help investigate, could you at least let the Alliance?
Since no one has yet declared their candidacy, I shall declare my candidacy for a second term. I do hope others declare their candidacy, otherwise the election wouldn't be that much of an election.
That's not enough. If you won't let the world help investigate, could you at least let the Alliance?
Since no one has yet declared their candidacy, I shall declare my candidacy for a second term. I do hope others declare their candidacy, otherwise the election wouldn't be that much of an election.
Mr Insanity
TNPer
Syrixia:
For.
We agreed with Syrixia.
I declare my candidacy for secretary-general. We realize this may cause bit of complication, if we actually get elected, due the fact the representative of The United Stated of New Sekai in The Faibuaizu Alliance is a chairman. However, currently doesn't look like anyone else is declaring a candidacy for secretary-general.
Mr Insanity
TNPer
Syrixia:
Yeah we know about that. We just agreeing to the thought.
Alright then. Aswell, true on that.
Mr Insanity
TNPer
The United States of New Sekai will remove our candidacy if any of the other members then just Syrixia will declare the candidacy. Again, The United States of New Sekai promote democracy.Kannex:
The Spokesman of Eumenor
TNPer
Eumenor declares candidacy, which is a joke given the state we're in at the moment, but the declaration stands. We have a race between three undesirable leaders.
Sierra
TNPer
- TNP Nation
- True Sebland
True Sebland declares candidacy
Mr Insanity
TNPer
The United States of New Sekai now remove our candidacy because they now more candidates in the elections now.
Xentherida also declares its candidacy.
The Spokesman of Eumenor
TNPer
Please could all Helmebaine members remain highly vigilant for the support structure of the terrorist cell that carried out the attack in Eumenor. Information to follow.