NPTO Charter Conference
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I could draft a few clauses.
Here these articles are presented in no particular order, and should consolidated into a final treaty. Suggested changes will be placed into this post. Opine!
The nations listed in above ratification process are the nations who sent a delegate to the meeting in Augustus Town. Their ratification is required before the treaty goes into effect. It goes into effect for each member as they ratify it.
The Assembly:
The Executive:
Peacekeeping Forces:
Applications:
Ratification:
The nations listed in above ratification process are the nations who sent a delegate to the meeting in Augustus Town. Their ratification is required before the treaty goes into effect. It goes into effect for each member as they ratify it.
Here is a rough draft of the charter that we have written thus far. If you want to suggest an edit to it, please just quote the article, not this entire draft, as it is already hard enough to fit in one post and will only complicate things.
Rough Draft of Charter:Charter of the North Pacific Treaty Organization
Signed <DD-MM-YYYY> at NPTO HQ in Augustus Town, GU
Preamble
Our nations, gathered here on this <date the Charter is signed> day in [April] come together to ratify the charter of the North Pacific Treaty Organization or NPTO. NPTO shall represent peace through its actions and declarations, and shall be charged with the duty of maintaining peace between its member nations. All member nations of NPTO pledge to never engage in conflict with any other members of NPTO, protect the other member nations in their time of need, and to only use our armies for the good of the other member nations. We will break the barriers between governmental types and work together; our organization will not be the battle ground between dictatorships and democracies, but instead, it will be the shield of peace surrounding its member nations that we shall protect.
Article One: The Flag
The following flag shall be established as the official flag of the North Pacific Treaty Organization. It shall be raised above the flags of the member nations at NPTO HQ and shall never be used in association with actions of violence or actions of the Peacekeeping Forces.
The flag's central symbol, a silhouette of Nelly, symbolizes the goal of peace and security established by this charter and by the founding member nations. The ellipse and the cross symbolize the fortitude and willpower of the organization, and its will to never give into war. The blue and white also symbolize peace and tranquility of the organization.
The flag should only be used in a ratio of 1.3:1, or 320 pixels:240 pixels
Article Two: Nelly
The mascot of NPTO shall be the dove, with the nickname being Nelly. Any graphic having appearance of Nelly or NPTO material will be asked by the organization to cease-and-desist.
She will be a symbol of peace and willpower, and shall be used as a momentum to propel the organization into the future like a dove uses its wings.
Article Three: NPTO HQ
The primary headquarters of NPTO shall be located in the port city of Augustus Town, Guslantis. Its building shall be maintained by Guslant teams in association with the member organizations. The headquarters shall be referred to as North Pacific Treaty Organization Headquarters, or NPTO HQ.
The address of the headquarters is as follows:
1 Nelly Avenue
Augustus Town, GU 43768
Additional sub-offices will be established per assembly law.
Article Four: Application
Nations wishing to join NPTO shall submit an application to the Chairperson who shall have the power to deny or reject it. If the Chairperson, shall reject said application, the applicant nation may be admitted by a vote of three-fifths of the Assembly.
Article Five: The Assembly
The Parties hereby establish an Assembly on which each shall be represented.
The Assembly shall oversee the activities of the NPTO, and shall have the power to:
Article Six: The Executive
- Establish subordinate offices and committees as its members shall think proper.
- Elect the Chairperson, Deputy Chairperson, Commander-in-Chief of the Peacekeeping Forces, and holders of any other office which it shall think proper to create.
- The Assembly shall have the power to remove the holders of any offices within the NPTO by a vote of two-thirds of its members
The Chairperson shall preside over meetings of the Assembly.
The Chairperson shall have the power to set all manner of policy related to the execution of all acts, resolutions, or laws passed by the Assembly.
The Chairman shall be elected by the Assembly for four months.
The Chairperson shall delegate any of his or her power to the Deputy Chairperson at his or her discretion.
In the case of the resignation, removal, or other vacancy in the Chairperson's office, the Deputy Chairman shall become Chairman.
Article Seven: NPTO Peacekeeping Forces
There shall be group of armed force for peace within the NPTO called the NPTO Peacekeeping Forces.
The Peacekeeping Forces shall composed of teams volunteered by the Parties at their discretion. Each team shall be led by a commander subordinate to the Commander-in-Chief.
The Commander-in-Chief of the Peacekeeping Forces shall be elected by the Assembly for four months.
All operations of the Peacekeeping Forces shall be approved by the Peace Council before they shall be executed.
The Assembly has the power to cancel any operation of the Peacekeeping Forces.
The Peacekeeping Forces shall only be used in sovereign territory on the request of said territory's government.
The Peacekeeping Forces shall not be used to invade sovereign territory unless the Peace Council be presented with evidence of compelling interest to do so. In such a hearing, the government to be invaded shall have the right to debate such evidence. The Peace Council shall then decide if the aforementioned evidence evinces compelling interest for an invasion.
Article Eight: Peace Council
Article Nine: Ratification
This Treaty shall be ratified by the Parties in accordance with their respective constitutional processes. The instruments of ratification shall be deposited as soon as possible with the Government of the Guslantis, which will notify all the other signatories of each deposit.
The Treaty shall enter into force between the States which have ratified it as soon as the ratifications of Syrixia, Eumenor, Tronkandal, Malvad, Trinster, Plembobria, the Republican Pacific Isles, and Guslantis have been deposited and shall come into effect with respect to other States on the date of the deposit of their ratifications.
Article Nine: Amendments
Amendments to this Charter may be ratified with a two-thirds majority vote by the Assembly.
).I disagree with the specificities of the regulations concerning the NPTO flag. I think we should broaden it to a simple "Do not use this flag unless authorized by NPTO officials or else you will receive a notice of cease and desist." Also, don't forget to apply the same rules to the seals.
Concerning the location of NPTO HQ, I think North Pacific Treaty Organization Avenue is too boring. How about Nelly Avenue, named after our oh so brilliantly named mascot? Seriously, who came up with that name? I want to give them a medal or something.
Also, I'd like to edit the applications part of the charter concerning the format of application. If we just had a closed application thread lying around it would be rather dumb and would be a blot on the organization's clean structuring. Plus, it looks good, and it works, and we can edit it to fit the Charter. What could go wrong? (Note: that was not sarcastic)
Concerning the location of NPTO HQ, I think North Pacific Treaty Organization Avenue is too boring. How about Nelly Avenue, named after our oh so brilliantly named mascot? Seriously, who came up with that name? I want to give them a medal or something.
Also, I'd like to edit the applications part of the charter concerning the format of application. If we just had a closed application thread lying around it would be rather dumb and would be a blot on the organization's clean structuring. Plus, it looks good, and it works, and we can edit it to fit the Charter. What could go wrong? (Note: that was not sarcastic)
The treaty should not contain the format of the application, it simply expresses how the application is to be processed. Charters of international organizations never include the actual application format. (Mainly because applying to join an international organization IRL is a much more complex process that takes years. There really is no standardized form. The form is really for more OOC clerical purposes.)Syrixia:
As for the closed thread, it can be archived by the admins, and new one can be made.
Bootsie: Instead of <date the Charter is ratified> it should say <date the Charter is signed>. The ratification process takes time and each nation has a different method of ratification; therefore, each government is likely ratify it on a different day. Of course, the treaty actually goes into effect when the listed nations certify to the Guslant government that they have ratified it.
"Nations wishing to join NPTO shall submit an application to the Chairperson" does not mean that the application is PM'd. There can be a thread for that purpose. Perhaps the existing thread could be re-opened or a new one could be made.Syrixia:
It's important to note that the text of the treaty refers to imaginary mechanisms -- how that is applied on the forums IRL definitely differs.
An example of this: The forum admins don't exist for IC purposes, they are sort of OOC "god" that ensures that forum that facilitates our imaginary interchanges is maintained smoothly.
Keep in mind that per the current text of the treaty, the Chair has the sole power to approve applications. The Deputy Chair has no power other than what is delegated to him/her by the Chair. Of course, the Chair could delegate the power to approve membership to the Deputy Chair, but that is unlikely.
Okay, can you write what you want the flag specifications to say? I could spend twice the time trying to figure out what you want it to say, while you could get it right the first time.Syrixia:
As for Nelly, I don't need another medal, and I'll edit it to have her name as the avenue's name.
I think, as Yoda said, size matters not. The flag should be able to be used in any size as long as it is used with proper authorization from NPTO authorities.
Also, I think we should bring back the application thread. We talked about this earlier but you're here now. I think if we edit it to fit the charter (if it needs editing) we can make the thread work. Besides, it looks nice
Also, I think we should bring back the application thread. We talked about this earlier but you're here now. I think if we edit it to fit the charter (if it needs editing) we can make the thread work. Besides, it looks nice
I will get that back up when we ratify the charter. As for flag specifications, they need to be kept. We don't want a distorted flag, now do we?Syrixia:I think, as Yoda said, size matters not. The flag should be able to be used in any size as long as it is used with proper authorization from NPTO authorities.
Also, I think we should bring back the application thread. We talked about this earlier but you're here now. I think if we edit it to fit the charter (if it needs editing) we can make the thread work. Besides, it looks nice
RPI
TNPer
Syrixia, the specifications for the flag is not size, it is a ratio. The ratio is 1.3 to 1. This means that the flag can have any two side measurements that are equal to the ratio of 1.3 to 1. Example: 1.3/1=13/10, so the flag could have measurements of two opposite sides be 13 u, and the other pair of opposite sides be 10 u.
Is there any help I can offer for this Bootsie? I have been too busy as to not be able to read it, but is there something particularly you would like help with? I hopefully will have time to read the whole thing tomorrow or, possibly, late tonight.
Is there any help I can offer for this Bootsie? I have been too busy as to not be able to read it, but is there something particularly you would like help with? I hopefully will have time to read the whole thing tomorrow or, possibly, late tonight.
midtkandal
TNPer
I think it should be specified in Article seven that NPTO-forces will only be deployed on the request or consent of the nation in question to prevent a loophole to utilize the NPTOPF as an invasion-force
I agree.midtkandal:
The Spokesman of Eumenor
TNPer
I disagree. If there are human rights breaches and other atrocities by a certain government, we want the freedom to send in peacekeeping forces to protect the people of that country, while the nation itself would object.plembobria:
I propose that the following be appended to Article 7:
I disagree with this; and here's why. Say a country is in a civil war. The government is tyrannical, corrupt and evil and the rebels stand for freedom, justice and democracy. Would we need to ask the government to help bring its destruction? That would be dumb.
I suggest a clause is made making such situations and other similar ones an exception.
I suggest a clause is made making such situations and other similar ones an exception.
That would constitute compelling interest. I'm sure the Assembly would vote for that.Syrixia:
The Spokesman of Eumenor
TNPer
I think the first line of that clause is BS. Get rid of it.
The Spokesman of Eumenor
TNPer
I call for a suspension on all writing of this charter and an immediate vote of no confidence on Bootsie, our chair... person after intrigue surrounding... their identity. I feel it would be prudent to pause for a minute while we discover exactly what is true and what is lies concerning the information Bootsie has given us. I am uncomfortable in having a chairperson who is surrounded by scandal and intrigue as Bootsie is.
My apologies to Bootsie and to those who believe I am threadjacking but this is a real problem facing our organisation and I may motion shortly to depose our chairperson depending on their answer.
I retract my statement.
The Spokesman of Eumenor:
The second clause allows the Assembly to overrule the first. I said that already. Read the text.Syrixia:
Stop doing that. No one is forgetting anything. These things take time. IRL they take months -- even years.Syrixia:
There is no Bootsie, only a delegate from Guslantis whose identity is clearly defined. This is an IC organization, we represent IC character negotiating an IC treaty. Our OOC lives do not matter. Do not respond to this. Drop the issue.The Spokesman of Eumenor:
I'd like to further add that IRL it is illegal for a nation, or UN peacekeeping forces to invade another sovereign nation without approval of the UN Security Council. The clause I have written reflects that.
^This.plembobria:
Eumenor has the wrong definition of the issue surrounding Bootsie. It's not her identity; that's another issue that doesn't need to be brought here. What's more concerning are her activity rates.
Bootsie has been very inactive lately. All PMs from me to her receive no response and she has not posted nor made an official RA ruling or introductory post in a while. Thus, I must inquire the following:
Is there a clause so far concerning what would happen if the Chairman was unable to fulfill their duties, whether it be inactivity, resignation or impeachment? Would the Deputy Chairman take charge and a new Deputy be elected? Would elections for a new Chairman occur? Would the NPTO go chairless until the next NPTO general elections? If so, can someone show me it?
If there is no clause, could someone make one? And how would this clause be worded? What I mean is; which method of filling the Chair would be used? The ones I listed above are good examples to go on.
midtkandal
TNPer
I think that if the Chairman is not able to follow up on their duty, for any of the reasons listed by Syrixia, the deputy chairman should take over and a new deputy should be elected ASAP.
OH MY GOD YOU'RE ALIVE.
Also, concerning the issue of the clause I proposed and we are currently discussing, I will be recusing myself from taking an official stance on this clause until everyone else's minds are made up, as I am one of the main subjects of this clause.
Also, concerning the issue of the clause I proposed and we are currently discussing, I will be recusing myself from taking an official stance on this clause until everyone else's minds are made up, as I am one of the main subjects of this clause.
No, just the Assembly.Bootsie:
Okay, so what do I need to amend? People keep saying, "get rid of that" or "add this", but you must realize what I can keep submitting may continue being false in your mind, so I'd rather you write it and get it right on the first try then spend ten days having it revised through me.
Plembobria's proposal for an amendment:
These two things are what we have on the table right now. One is about NPTOPF and the other is about executive succession.Tronkandal (following discussions on the matter):
I think we should still talk about the above items, if we haven't already.Syrixia:
Also, I think we could either do two things:
1. Re-open the Application Thread and have applications sent there
2. Archive the Application Thread and the subforum it's in and have applications sent by PM.
I think we should open the Application Thread, personally. Thus, we will be able to judge applications without any need for a significant difference in each one. If we did Option 2, this may happen:
Nation 1- [ELABORATE, FORMAL, CODE-FILLED DECLARATION AND APPLICATION]
Nation 2- cna I plz jnoi da npto???