OOC: There's no Such Thing as Dragons

I was planning on Zukul being caught by the Eumenorians (how specifically I don't want to give away just yet) in the next post. Also, quick question, how would the courier know about the dragons? Just want to make sure the details make sense.

Also, Syrixia, if you want, I can teach you a few tips to improve your RPing, both in general and in the context of Uthvaq Shanar.
 
In such a case, there would be no reason for schools.

Also, you haven't answered my question:

Darcania:
Also, quick question, how would the courier know about the dragons? Just want to make sure the details make sense.
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They didn't know, but it was a widely believed rumor. When Imperial forces arrive at Darcania, they found them.
 
Um, Syrixia, plz hold off on posting anything regarding dragons until Fanshaw's return to Eumenor (as this is the first contact the dragons will have had in the outside world). Then, the rumors will spread and you'll have your scene. Remember, there is no internet, etc to spread rumours on, so it won't be until Fanshaw returns home and tells of the event that anybody will have the rumour to spread. In the meantime, post about your politic and stuff (like the backgrounds Darcania and I did at the start).

Darcania, when I wasn't planning on capturing any of your dragons, but f you want me to, that's fine. It would fit in with the specimen-gathering mentality of Victorian style explorers/naturalists. But I'm guessing that may hurt our relations? Perhaps this turns the dragons against the Eumenorians until they step in to defend you from the Syrixians?

And, Syrixia, as your friend, for the love of God, take those classes!
 
The Spokesman of Eumenor:
Um, Syrixia, plz hold off on posting anything regarding dragons until Fanshaw's return to Eumenor (as this is the first contact the dragons will have had in the outside world). Then, the rumors will spread and you'll have your scene. Remember, there is no internet, etc to spread rumours on, so it won't be until Fanshaw returns home and tells of the event that anybody will have the rumour to spread. In the meantime, post about your politic and stuff (like the backgrounds Darcania and I did at the start).

Darcania, when I wasn't planning on capturing any of your dragons, but f you want me to, that's fine. It would fit in with the specimen-gathering mentality of Victorian style explorers/naturalists. But I'm guessing that may hurt our relations? Perhaps this turns the dragons against the Eumenorians until they step in to defend you from the Syrixians?

And, Syrixia, as your friend, for the love of God, take those classes!
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"Caught" as in they will see her up close. It's really up to you what they do, but, as Zukul is the future Ulus, it is necessary that, by the end, she's back in Darcania. I should mention that, as Arazi's daughter, Arazi will most certainly act unfavorably to any negative actions against Zukul.

Also, I'm online now, so I'll probably be able to give those classes if Syrixia is still interested. It would have to wait until about two hours from now because I have a major headache, though. I should mention that if I find Syrixia's posts far below the quality of our posts, I will refuse to continue the RP or flat out kick Syrixia out if it's early enough. Right now, my bar is currently set on style (not script-like, book-like, as well as at least about 150 words or so) and sense (for example, no godmodding, no details from nowhere, etc.). As it would take quite a bit to drive me away from this RP, the standards for that are low; however, if something doesn't make sense or the style is incongruous, I will very likely endlessly complain about it on this thread until it is fixed, which would slow down the RP.
 
In fact, we all love Syrixia, but I would ask him to telegram or post here what he intends to post so we can veto it if necessary, before he posts in the actual thing. If that's OK with him.
OK Darcania, I thought you meant 'catch' as in 'capture and take away' but what you suggest sounds much more plausible.
 
For clearing up a potential point of confusion introduced by my latest post: When the dragons spoke only to each other in my previous posts, they were speaking in the dragons' language. Not a major detail, but a potential point anyway.
 
The Spokesman of Eumenor:
This is an open RP, but I would like to invite any would - be applicants to post a brief application below summarising what you intend to do.
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Well, my nation, in 1895, didn't exist, it was the Diarchic Republic of Pacific States(just to clarify I wouldn't RPing as the Republican Pacific Islands). I could possibly RP as being a very close ally and trade partner with Eumenor, and provide them with supplies, soldiers, and anything else to assist with the expedition in Darcania? The two Consuls at that time, Leo Gennadius Avienus and Marcus Messalla Severius Iuvenali, could take a keen interest in the Eumenorian expedition in Darcania.
 
It's up to Eumenor, like always, though I don't see a problem on my side.

Also, to Eumenor, a question: Should we ask that people post a link to an RP they've done in the past?
 
Darcania:
It's up to Eumenor, like always, though I don't see a problem on my side.

Also, to Eumenor, a question: Should we ask that people post a link to an RP they've done in the past?
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If they want to, that could be helpful. Although in the case of Syrixia, we've seen *plenty* of evidence of his RPing *prowess*.
RPI, I would be happy to have you in the RP. We can discuss your role further later, but maybe read some of the posts about Syrxia to see what we're looking for.
What kind of RPs would you say you normally do?
 
The Spokesman of Eumenor:
Darcania:
It's up to Eumenor, like always, though I don't see a problem on my side.

Also, to Eumenor, a question: Should we ask that people post a link to an RP they've done in the past?
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If they want to, that could be helpful. Although in the case of Syrixia, we've seen *plenty* of evidence of his RPing *prowess*.
RPI, I would be happy to have you in the RP. We can discuss your role further later, but maybe read some of the posts about Syrxia to see what we're looking for.
What kind of RPs would you say you normally do?
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Honestly, I'm kind of a noob on roleplaying :shrug:
This would actually be my first serious roleplaying besides making embassies and such.
 
RPI:
The Spokesman of Eumenor:
That's fine. We'll just have to plan all of your posts (and Syrixia's) here before we post them. Anyway, welcome to RP!
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Thanks :D
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You're welcome! Feel free to do some background on your nation like Darcania and I did in quote boxes at the start. We'll hold off on introducing your side of the story until Darcania and I are further in with the initial part.
 
What would you recommend including in my background that would be relevant to the story?
 
The Spokesman of Eumenor:
In fact, we all love Syrixia, but I would ask him to telegram or post here what he intends to post so we can veto it if necessary, before he posts in the actual thing. If that's OK with him.
OK Darcania, I thought you meant 'catch' as in 'capture and take away' but what you suggest sounds much more plausible.
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:tb2: Syrixia loves you all too! TNP is awesome! :D

Anyways, I will post what I want to post here later today.
 
Syrixia:
The Spokesman of Eumenor:
In fact, we all love Syrixia, but I would ask him to telegram or post here what he intends to post so we can veto it if necessary, before he posts in the actual thing. If that's OK with him.
OK Darcania, I thought you meant 'catch' as in 'capture and take away' but what you suggest sounds much more plausible.
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:tb2: Syrixia loves you all too! TNP is awesome! :D
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Wow.
 
RPI:
What would you recommend including in my background that would be relevant to the story?
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Your government at this time, and your nation's philosophy and outlook on the world, + maybe your ties with Eumenor (feel free to make something up!)
 
I will do my background too, as well as my introduction to the RP's story. I have found out how the Syrixians will have discovered. Remember the Syrixian Expeditionary Program? Ah, the noob days...anyway, you'll see!
 
I think this is satisfactory and heavily projects Syrixian ideology at the time. Give me the OK and I will post it, but from then on I will make my next posts directly in the RP thread; as doing so every time first here would flood this thread and make the RP itself in terms of Syrixia's part in this story much less dramatic.
My Proposed First Post:
The Syrixian Empire, which was a bit smaller than the current Republic of Syrixia, was at the time ruled by Emperor Vulnus III, also known as Vulnus the Terrible. Vulnus ruled over his people with an iron fist and instated the personality cult surrounding the Emperor and his Imperial Court that led to the peak of the empire...as well as its decline. He wanted the Syrixian Empire and its Government to be feared by not just the Syrixian citizenry; but also Syrixia's neighbors and fellow island nations in the large North Pacifican Archipelago.

Vulnus saw the nation of Eumenor as filth, and wanted it to be a Syrixian colony. He saw the great cities of Minas Ersul and Blue Havens as inferior, and he wanted to establish a new city in Eumenor that would show Eumenor who their bosses were. This city, in Vulnus's eyes, was to be called Minas Morgul. However, Vulnus knew that direct rule would and should not be forced upon a people; if Syrixian rule was asserted very gradually there would be little resistance, or at least the resistance would be so separated it could be put down.

Emperor Vulnus's predecessor and father, Emperor Edmund IX, had commissioned the Syrixian Expeditionary Program, sending Syrixian colonial ships across the archipelago to see what he could find. Vulnus wanted to continue the program, but where to go? He heard Eumenorian aspirations of exploring an island called "Darcania" and decided the best way to begin assertion of Syrixian rule over Eumenor was to have troops visit the island himself. He planted Syrixian spies inside Eumenor's government headquarters in Minas Ersul, and got the information he desired...

1895 CE
Imperial City of Balamb, Syrixia
Seven Days Before Eumenorian Arrival in Darcania

A courier entered the Throne Room of the Syrixian Imperial Palace in Balamb. He was dressed in the usual robes, a red page's outfit and a large leather satchel carrying letters. This was no normal courier, though; this was Ahalmat, the Emperor's personal courier. Ahalmat stepped up to the Emperor and, in formal fashion, kneeled and kissed his feet. "Your Magnificence," Ahalmat uttered timidly while standing up, "We have found the location of this "Darcania" place. Your goal of "Minas Morgul" may be closer to us after all." The Emperor smiled, then stood up from his diamond throne. "Tell me the location of this place, Ahalmat." he said, in a commanding voice. "Your Magnificence," replied Ahalmat, "it is in the southeast of the North Pacific. If we sail in between the Great Straits between the North Pacific and the Pacific, we should reach Darcania within four days." The Emperor beckoned Ahalmat to ready the colonial ships. Each ship would be staffed with 10 Imperial Sailors and 10 Imperial Land Troops. There were to be 5 ships, for a total of fifty men on the shores of Darcania. The Emperor laughed to himself.

Within a few years, Eumenor would be on its KNEES. Darcania was just the beginning...
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Syrixia:
I think this is satisfactory and heavily projects Syrixian ideology at the time. Give me the OK and I will post it, but from then on I will make my next posts directly in the RP thread; as doing so every time first here would flood this thread and make the RP itself in terms of Syrixia's part in this story much less dramatic.
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I certainly agree that posting everything here first would be too much - for everyone else. For example, I would only ask RPI to do so if his RPing abilities were lacking. However, as you have shown certain negative tendencies in your past RPs, we have asked you to post here or PM us first.

Next, my critique of your post. As I don't cover the story or the status of Eumenor, I will only post about conflicts with Darcania, formatting, godmodding with respect to Darcania, egregious grammar and spelling errors, errors, substandard characters, egregious factual errors, and details about Darcania out of nowhere.

  • The format does not at all match that of everybody else's. Please match everybody else's formatting, namely:
    • Separate the background and your first RP post.
    • Do not use italics, bold, or any other unnecessary BBCode.
  • Where did the Emperor hear about Eumenor's aspirations for exploring Darcania? If he heard it from his spies, please switch those sentences.
  • Why is the Emperor singling out Eumenor? What about them specifically invokes the Emperor's hatred? A small hint of that, or a conversation with Eumenor, would likely help flesh out the background and close plot holes; perhaps even adding another plot thread, or details for Eumenor to pick up on.
  • Please don't put the date and location at the start of your introductory (non-background) post. We can already tell the location and time from the text.
  • The Emperor is a very boring, Snidely Whiplash meets Hitler persona. Why specifically does he want to spread his rule? For the good of the ones he subjugates? To spread the glory of the Syrixian Empire? Remember that everyone is the good guy in their own stories.
  • Please refrain from using all caps.
  • It takes far more than ten sailors to crew a ship. Consider something closer to ninety.
  • Finally, your writing style is substandard. If you want details about that, ask, but, for now, my sister is asking me to hurry up since we have somewhere to be soon.
 
Darcania:
Syrixia:
I think this is satisfactory and heavily projects Syrixian ideology at the time. Give me the OK and I will post it, but from then on I will make my next posts directly in the RP thread; as doing so every time first here would flood this thread and make the RP itself in terms of Syrixia's part in this story much less dramatic.
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I certainly agree that posting everything here first would be too much - for everyone else. For example, I would only ask RPI to do so if his RPing abilities were lacking. However, as you have shown certain negative tendencies in your past RPs, we have asked you to post here or PM us first.

Next, my critique of your post. As I don't cover the story or the status of Eumenor, I will only post about conflicts with Darcania, formatting, godmodding with respect to Darcania, egregious grammar and spelling errors, errors, substandard characters, egregious factual errors, and details about Darcania out of nowhere.

  • The format does not at all match that of everybody else's. Please match everybody else's formatting, namely:
    • Separate the background and your first RP post.
    • Do not use italics, bold, or any other unnecessary BBCode.
  • Where did the Emperor hear about Eumenor's aspirations for exploring Darcania? If he heard it from his spies, please switch those sentences.
  • Why is the Emperor singling out Eumenor? What about them specifically invokes the Emperor's hatred? A small hint of that, or a conversation with Eumenor, would likely help flesh out the background and close plot holes; perhaps even adding another plot thread, or details for Eumenor to pick up on.
  • Please don't put the date and location at the start of your introductory (non-background) post. We can already tell the location and time from the text.
  • The Emperor is a very boring, Snidely Whiplash meets Hitler persona. Why specifically does he want to spread his rule? For the good of the ones he subjugates? To spread the glory of the Syrixian Empire? Remember that everyone is the good guy in their own stories.
  • Please refrain from using all caps.
  • It takes far more than ten sailors to crew a ship. Consider something closer to ninety.
  • Finally, your writing style is substandard. If you want details about that, ask, but, for now, my sister is asking me to hurry up since we have somewhere to be soon.
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Just a list of responses.

1. I can separate the background.
2. I will not use italics in my background if that's what you're thinking about. However my posting style mandates I use italics for all non-dialogue instances such as the courier walking up to the throne. If you protest, take it up with Bootsie-I follow her posting format. Bold will, however, not be used, as I see what you mean.
3. Yes, he heard it from his spies. I will fix it so that's more apparent.
4. Eumenor is very prosperous and thus the Emperor cannot resist wanting it for himself. I will indicate this.
5. Ok.
6. He obviously wants to spread the glory of the Empire. I will indicate this in the manner you suggested.
7. Ok.
8. I'll do 90.
9. It's best not to critique my writing STYLE. My writing has only improved from where it was when I joined NS because I learned it myself and it ingrained itself in my brain because I decided such to be so. That is what I meant earlier. Take a school for instance. Teachers in my eyes are simply guides; whether to remember and/or use the knowledge they spout daily is the student's choice.

That said, I shall post the new, final version soon.
 
Following the short conversation in this thread, I believe I am perfectly willing to let Syrixia post without first asking our approval, so long as Syrixia agrees to the following conditions, with any amendments any following posts add which are also agreed upon:
  • The agreeing party follows the format we have laid out in our previous posts. (For justification, I would like to point out that it is very difficult and distracting for me to read blocks of italics, script-style posts, etc.)
  • The agreeing party pushes him/herself to write as best as s/he is able to, challenging him/herself to write well. (As there is no way to enforce this, a simple promise should be effective enough.)
  • Posts must have a reasonable minimum length. (At least 100 to 150 words, though 250 or more is recommended.)
  • Posts must follow characters and what they do. (Syrixia already does this, but the following conditions build upon this one.)
  • Characters must have motivations for what they do. (For example, the Emperor hates Eumenor, but why? Naturally enough, reasonable limits are placed on this to prevent infinite regression to the far past.)
  • Everything that happens must have a reason. (A followup of the above condition, but applying to non-character entities. For example, a rumor has to originate from somewhere. "Acts of God", like storms, are valid reasons.)
  • Avoid egregious spelling and grammar errors. ("Egregious" meaning: minor errors are fine, but if someone can't understand what you're saying, it's "egregious".)
  • Avoid egregious factual errors. (We're not experts at many things, but if even we laymen can tell that something's wrong, it's "egregious".)
  • Avoid god modding. (Controlling others' characters without consent, having over-powerful characters, etc.)
  • OOC comments are to be restricted to this thread, with the exception of unfinished posts and the original post.
  • Eumenor, as leader of the story, may highlight events that throw his planned story off the rails. (Within reason, of course.)
  • Darcania, as leader of the main setting, may highlight details and events which are impossible or contradictory to the main setting. (Within reason.)
  • Any deviations from these conditions will be highlighted here. (Naturally, the agreeing party will be expected to edit the offending post(s).)
  • Edits to finished posts should be announced here.

As well, I would ask all participants, including myself, Eumenor, and RPI, to agree to the above conditions.

In turn, the following concessions (with any amendments) will be given to Syrixia (and any others):

  • There will be no more requirement to post here or in a private message before posting on the thread itself, with the exception of the initial application, which must be accepted prior to any posts on the thread.
  • When deviations from the above conditions are highlighted, only the broken condition may be highlighted. Other criticisms are not to be posted unless requested by the criticized party.
  • Notifications of deviations from the above conditions will take place over private message.

Please feel free to discuss the above conditions and concessions.
 
The above concessions have been edited.

There will be no more requirement to post here or in a private message before posting on the thread itself.
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has been changed to

There will be no more requirement to post here or in a private message before posting on the thread itself, with the exception of the initial application, which must be accepted prior to any posts on the thread.
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The following condition has been added:

Avoid egregious spelling and grammar errors. ("Egregious" meaning: minor errors are fine, but if someone can't understand what you're saying, it's "egregious".)
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I'll finish my post at some point. Then we'll implement the turn system, going Syrixia, RPI, Darcania and then me. I am satisfied with not posting here first; in many instances, though, a prior discussion would be good about the general subject of the posts and where you intend to go next.
 
The Spokesman of Eumenor:
I'll finish my post at some point. Then we'll implement the turn system, going Syrixia, RPI, Darcania and then me. I am satisfied with not posting here first; in many instances, though, a prior discussion would be good about the general subject of the posts and where you intend to go next.
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I agree, though I note that it isn't required. These conditions should help prevent any crazy shenanigans, though:

  • Eumenor, as leader of the story, may highlight events that throw his planned story off the rails. (Within reason, of course.)
  • Darcania, as leader of the main setting, may highlight details and events which are impossible or contradictory to the main setting. (Within reason.)
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Prior discussion is, however, still highly encouraged.

Also, I apparently spelled "shenanigans" correct on my first try. Wasn't expecting that.
 
The revised post has been edited to follow your recommendations and the new rules. It has been posted in the IC thread.
 
Syrixia:
The revised post has been edited to follow your recommendations and the new rules. It has been posted in the IC thread.
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I'm afraid your post breaks the following conditions:
The agreeing party follows the format we have laid out in our previous posts. (For justification, I would like to point out that it is very difficult and distracting for me to read blocks of italics, script-style posts, etc.)
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It breaks the above in the following ways:
  • The background is not a separate post from the introductory post (though I don't particularly care for this, so you don't have to fix that).
  • Italics are used unnecessarily. I would like to point out the following:
...it is very difficult and distracting for me to read blocks of italics...
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Other than that, good post! :D
 
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