Regional Assembly Digest:Period covered: 21-02-2018 - 07-03-2018
Speaker of the Regional Assembly: Darcania
Deputy Speaker: General COE
Deputy Speaker: ABC
Deputy Speaker: Republican Pacific Islands
Old Business
A list of proposals that have passed and failed this past week.
No proposals have passed or failed this week.
New Business
A list of proposals currently before the assembly.
No proposals are currently before the assembly.
Other Business
Other matters that may concern you as a member of the assembly.
1. We extend a warm welcome to our newest Assembly members: AboveOutrageous, RPI, TheGreatHofmeister, Yusuf Narendra, Cogoria, Yuno, Swindenland, Baker Park, Sallanas, Atomicapple, North East Somerset, Ebay, Syrixia, Artmeis, Empotian, Studeland, The Nation of Erschlagen, Mazemba, Sasten, mecojoni, and Telok Ayer
2. We bid a fond farewell to those who have left us: Ullac, Abhijit, Ben_Perry, Plodonia, Seagoat, Klein aber Ash, Drasnia, Mamagagalala9952, Mirnlonh, Otto IV, Sanctaria, Tiny Walking Whale, Ultima Atlantea, SillyString, Xyre, Merconitonitopia, Mystery Player, Westfacto, Varia, German Glory!, Ironias, Bonodia, Bridgett, DorianGreen, Fascist Confederation of Europe, Hudali, Krone, Kialga, Braussland, gmaeboipowee, The Dictatorship Of Coldiea, APRSC, AnUnnamedCell, Tigydavid134, Altmoras, Devon, Confederate Slavia, The Anderes Islands, LosNobles, New Atos, secen, and Socialist Cooperative Republics
And Now This
Darcania's Grammar Trivia of the Week
"It's Deputy Attorneys General, not Deputies Attorney General."
General COE's Cautionary Words
Vote or die.
ABC's Discord Quote of the Week
Courelli - Yesterday at 10:54 PM
every day, i get closer to calling dibs
i'm so close i can taste it
one day, i shall prevail.
Crushing Our Enemies:I am resigning as deputy speaker in order to take a position as a temporary hearing officer.
One has been opened five days ago already: http://forum.thenorthpacific.org/topic/9144829/Eluvatar:Traditionally, Election Commission appointment discussion threads have been opened by members of the Speaker's Office.
Could one of them please do so, as soon as practicable, so as to allow the nominees to possibly join the Commission before the General Election begins?
I did see both, I apologize for not responding and letting you know I received them.Dinoium:Since you didn't see my private message and telegram, I'll post here..
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You said you would be looking for two other deputy speakers, we'll I think I would do good for Deputy Speaker, let me list my reasons
Activeness
I am pretty active on the forums, RMB, and Discord server.. I have been in TNP for 10 months and been active in the Regional Assembly..
Knowledge
I read most of the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and most of the Law Code.. not to mention I read most of the RA Laws and on right side of my signature has the most important laws...
If you don't make me Deputy Speaker, at least make me part of the RA Staff..
Good day!!
- Dinoium
... mcmasterdonia can't be both a Deputy Speaker and Minister. Those are government official positions in two separate branches of government.abc:McMasterdonia - Their competence in all areas of government they've served in shows that they can effectively take on all the duties required of them as a Deputy Speaker.
Well people could had ask ABC if they could become Deputy Speaker but I don't know about Mcm..Syrixia:Did you even ask any of your appointees beforehand?
Yes, I did.Syrixia:Did you even ask any of your appointees beforehand?
Looking back at this, the speaker locked the thread without the petitioner motioning to withdraw the bill. Why was that? Without looking at standing procedures or anything, is there a time limit for discussion that was breached?Wonderess:I did not want to start a new thread for this so:
I would like to motion that Ismud's comments in the World Exposition bill be struck from public reports including the RA Digest.
It was locked for gravedigging but I disagree with locking gravedigging RA business because people should be able to bring business back to discuss it. But I would like to know the Speakers answer to this. As far as I’m aware, the thread should only be locked if it is withdrawn or the conversation goes in the wrong direction.Sil Dorsett:Looking back at this, the speaker locked the thread without the petitioner motioning to withdraw the bill. Why was that? Without looking at standing procedures or anything, is there a time limit for discussion that was breached?Wonderess:I did not want to start a new thread for this so:
I would like to motion that Ismud's comments in the World Exposition bill be struck from public reports including the RA Digest.
Nation: TESTNATION
I pledge loyalty to The North Pacific, obedience to her laws, and responsible action as a member of her society. I pledge to only register one nation to vote in the North Pacific. I pledge that no nation under my control will wage war against The North Pacific. I understand that if I break this oath I may permanently lose my voting privileges. In this manner, I petition the speaker for citizenship the The North Pacific.
Flemingovia - Passes Admin checks
Deropia - Passes VD Checks.
Wonderess - Passes speaker checks and granted citizenship.
McMasterdonia - Remasked.
That does seem like a good idea, I'd be open to doing that.flemingovia:mr Speaker,
Wearing my admin hat i have been thinking about the way we track citizenship applications. At the moment, the Citizen application thread can sometimes get to be a muddle, with oaths, checks, replies etc.
I wonder if there is a better way of tracking citizenship applications? Perhaps instead of admins, VD and speaker all replying to applications, we ought to edit the original application, putting at the end the result of our checks. So you would get something like this ON ONE POST:
Nation: TESTNATION
I pledge loyalty to The North Pacific, obedience to her laws, and responsible action as a member of her society. I pledge to only register one nation to vote in the North Pacific. I pledge that no nation under my control will wage war against The North Pacific. I understand that if I break this oath I may permanently lose my voting privileges. In this manner, I petition the speaker for citizenship the The North Pacific.
Flemingovia - Passes Admin checks
Deropia - Passes VD Checks.
Wonderess - Passes speaker checks and granted citizenship.
McMasterdonia - Remasked.
It makes tracking a lot easier, and I think we all have ability to edit posts (if not, this could easily be sorted.)
What do you think?
That's a good point.Crushing Our Enemies:I would worry that only admins can see the edit history, so the speaker's office (and any other interested parties) would not be able to independently verify that an applicant had actually passed their checks. They could be tricked into granting citizenship to an applicant who edited their own post. This is problematic, since the Speaker's actions are performative and instantly grant all rights and privileges of citizenship, so removing someone improperly admitted to the RA could be fraught.
I prefer official actions by government officials to take place in posts by their official forum accounts, not edits to other's posts which can only be verified by admin.
I would like to remark that things are already quite organized through the Citizenship Registry Spreadsheet, so there isn't so much of a need to do this.abc:That's a good point.Crushing Our Enemies:I would worry that only admins can see the edit history, so the speaker's office (and any other interested parties) would not be able to independently verify that an applicant had actually passed their checks. They could be tricked into granting citizenship to an applicant who edited their own post. This is problematic, since the Speaker's actions are performative and instantly grant all rights and privileges of citizenship, so removing someone improperly admitted to the RA could be fraught.
I prefer official actions by government officials to take place in posts by their official forum accounts, not edits to other's posts which can only be verified by admin.
That's not at all a bad idea; I'd first like to get the opinion of the Admins and Vice Delegate on this though. We should probably still post once people have passed all checks in the application thread so that applicants know they've been accepted.Pallaith:Perhaps a second thread for the different checks to be confirmed? The original thread will collect all applications and periodic posts where the Spesker confirms lists of accepted citizens?
I'd be willing to give it a shot if you think it will make things a bit more organized.abc:That's not at all a bad idea; I'd first like to get the opinion of the Admins and Vice Delegate on this though. We should probably still post once people have passed all checks in the application thread so that applicants know they've been accepted.Pallaith:Perhaps a second thread for the different checks to be confirmed? The original thread will collect all applications and periodic posts where the Spesker confirms lists of accepted citizens?
Yeah, that's what I said. Periodic posts by the Speaker's office confirming all accepted citizens. I imagine every so often you would post with a list of people rather than more frequent posts confirming people one or two at a time.abc:That's not at all a bad idea; I'd first like to get the opinion of the Admins and Vice Delegate on this though. We should probably still post once people have passed all checks in the application thread so that applicants know they've been accepted.Pallaith:Perhaps a second thread for the different checks to be confirmed? The original thread will collect all applications and periodic posts where the Spesker confirms lists of accepted citizens?
Hmmm okay. So maybe every few days or so we'd post the new citizens? Would we continue to post after every citizen was granted citizenship, but in the checks thread just for masking purposes?Pallaith:Yeah, that's what I said. Periodic posts by the Speaker's office confirming all accepted citizens. I imagine every so often you would post with a list of people rather than more frequent posts confirming people one or two at a time.abc:That's not at all a bad idea; I'd first like to get the opinion of the Admins and Vice Delegate on this though. We should probably still post once people have passed all checks in the application thread so that applicants know they've been accepted.Pallaith:Perhaps a second thread for the different checks to be confirmed? The original thread will collect all applications and periodic posts where the Spesker confirms lists of accepted citizens?