Regional Tags Act

Gradea

Gradea

TNPer
1. The following tags are forbidden from being placed on the region of the North Pacific: 'Liberal', 'Communist', 'Capitalist', 'Conservative', 'Anarchist', 'Libertarian', 'Fascist', 'Totalitarian', 'Anti-Communist', 'Anti-Capitalist', 'Socialist', 'Anti-World Assembly', 'Anti-Security Council', 'Anti-General Assembly', 'Imperialist', 'Invader', 'Defender' and 'Puppet Storage'.

2. The following tags are forbidden from being removed from the region of the North Pacific: 'Offsite Forums', 'Independent', and 'Game Player'.
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This bill has been written in an attempt to prevent the Delegate from tagging the region however they please.
 
*closes his eyes* I get that some people want to legislate the creativity out of being a delegate and have them be a mindless drone following commands, but could we not?

Why is this in the private halls?
 
What document are you putting this in? The Constitution or the Legal Code? And yes, it matters.
 
nope. No thank you.

If the delegate applies a tag you do not like, talk to them about it. If they refuse to talk to you, take them to court where they will try to shift the blame onto someone else. It is the TNP way.
 
In the Rejected Realms we passed a similar bill so I do not see any reason why this should not be passed. The Delegate is to serve the people not the people serve the Delegate so this bill will keep the Delegate in check.
 
The fact that you would equate the 'legislative' apparatus in TRR with TNP speaks most clearly to me as to whether or not I would support such a bill.
 
Every noble I know, tends to resent the central government passing laws restricting their actions. Funny how you appear to be the opposite.
 
Gradea:
In the Rejected Realms we passed a similar bill so I do not see any reason why this should not be passed. The Delegate is to serve the people not the people serve the Delegate so this bill will keep the Delegate in check.
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Maybe this reflects the need in TRR to keep your delegate in check? Here in TNP I see no such need.
 
flemingovia:
Gradea:
In the Rejected Realms we passed a similar bill so I do not see any reason why this should not be passed. The Delegate is to serve the people not the people serve the Delegate so this bill will keep the Delegate in check.
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Maybe this reflects the need in TRR to keep your delegate in check? Here in TNP I see no such need.
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Hmnn. I'm pretty sure the North Pacific has a worse run with Delegates then the Rejected Realms. (Tomb, McMasterdonia's inactivity, Pixiedance, Durk)
 
Gracius Maximus:
The fact that you would equate the 'legislative' apparatus in TRR with TNP speaks most clearly to me as to whether or not I would support such a bill.
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And what is the matter with the Rekected Realms? The North Pacific bears many similarities with TRR.
 
Gradea:
flemingovia:
Gradea:
In the Rejected Realms we passed a similar bill so I do not see any reason why this should not be passed. The Delegate is to serve the people not the people serve the Delegate so this bill will keep the Delegate in check.
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Maybe this reflects the need in TRR to keep your delegate in check? Here in TNP I see no such need.
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Hmnn. I'm pretty sure the North Pacific has a worse run with Delegates then the Rejected Realms. (Tomb, McMasterdonia's inactivity, Pixiedance, Durk)
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Gradea:
(Tomb, McMasterdonia's inactivity, Pixiedance, Durk)
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Gradea:
(Tomb, McMasterdonia's inactivity, Pixiedance, Durk)
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Gradea:
Gracius Maximus:
The fact that you would equate the 'legislative' apparatus in TRR with TNP speaks most clearly to me as to whether or not I would support such a bill.
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And what is the matter with the Rekected Realms? The North Pacific bears many similarities with TRR.
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*Points to TRR's latest aggressive attempt to interview any TNPer who was even perceived to have a grudge with the delegacy or any other part of the TNP Government.* I think I will start with that for "what is the matter with"
 
Gradea:
And what is the matter with the Rekected Realms? The North Pacific bears many similarities with TRR.
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We have the nice benefit of our delegate (elected or sitting (hi!)) not being one of the worst serial sexual harassers of female players in the game.

But, yeah, Tomb and McM were definitely worse than that.
 
Crushing Our Enemies:
Gradea:
flemingovia:
Gradea:
In the Rejected Realms we passed a similar bill so I do not see any reason why this should not be passed. The Delegate is to serve the people not the people serve the Delegate so this bill will keep the Delegate in check.
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Maybe this reflects the need in TRR to keep your delegate in check? Here in TNP I see no such need.
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Hmnn. I'm pretty sure the North Pacific has a worse run with Delegates then the Rejected Realms. (Tomb, McMasterdonia's inactivity, Pixiedance, Durk)
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Gradea:
(Tomb, McMasterdonia's inactivity, Pixiedance, Durk)
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Gradea:
(Tomb, McMasterdonia's inactivity, Pixiedance, Durk)
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I do not understand why this bill is being treated like a joke. Surely it is a good idea to restrict the Delegate from running amok and taggging the region however they like.
 
Maybe it is being treated like a joke because we consider it to be one? Humor is subjective? Can I ask another question? I don't know?

Thanks for your wildly off-base comment though, you're obviously very good at fitting in.
 
Lord Lore:
Gradea:
Gracius Maximus:
The fact that you would equate the 'legislative' apparatus in TRR with TNP speaks most clearly to me as to whether or not I would support such a bill.
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And what is the matter with the Rekected Realms? The North Pacific bears many similarities with TRR.
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*Points to TRR's latest aggressive attempt to interview any TNPer who was even perceived to have a grudge with the delegacy or any other part of the TNP Government.* I think I will start with that for "what is the matter with"
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That is not the actions of the Rejected Realms. That is the actions of the Rejected Times which is independent to the Rejected Realms government. May I remind everyone of you Reject haters that the four current Officers (Sad-States, Libertarian Republics, Christian Democrats and Kyorgia) plus the Speaker (Guy) are not regular contributors to the Rejected Times.

May I also remind the Reject haters that Delegate Unibot is a democratically elected delegate.

Get your facts right or you are going to end up writing like the Rejected Times.

:cheese: <_< :bat:
 
Gradea:
Lord Lore:
Gradea:
Gracius Maximus:
The fact that you would equate the 'legislative' apparatus in TRR with TNP speaks most clearly to me as to whether or not I would support such a bill.
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And what is the matter with the Rekected Realms? The North Pacific bears many similarities with TRR.
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*Points to TRR's latest aggressive attempt to interview any TNPer who was even perceived to have a grudge with the delegacy or any other part of the TNP Government.* I think I will start with that for "what is the matter with"
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That is not the actions of the Rejected Realms. That is the actions of the Rejected Times which is independent to the Rejected Realms government. May I remind everyone of you Reject haters that the four current Officers (Sad-States, Libertarian Republics, Christian Democrats and Kyorgia) plus the Speaker (Guy) are not regular contributors to the Rejected Times.

May I also remind the Reject haters that Delegate Unibot is a democratically elected delegate.

Get your facts right or you are going to end up writing like the Rejected Times.

:cheese: <_< :bat:
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And as the democratically elected representative of TRR when he does things like that he does so directly as a representative of TRR and TRT. And by allowing him to do so the officers of the region are just as culpable in the act. If any of our delegates acted that way on behalf of TNL it would be seen in just the same manner.

But in the end this proposal is ridiculous. You act as if tagging is some remarkably evil thing and that we must expand the already massive bureaucracy to include micromanaging every little action that the delegate makes. Especially banning things like Anti-Security Council and Invador and Defender. In all reality TNP should have both Invador and Defender tags and we should have the option to label as "Anti-Security Council" or etc because that is almost entirely dependent on the policies of the World Assembly Minister and the Delegate if TNP's Government shall take an anti-GA or anti-SC stance.
 
Gradea. we got rid of those "leaders" and retained our commitment to democracy throughout this past decade. You want to talk about continuity; there's continuity for you.
 
To be fair, I was asked to take part in the broadcast, but in no way did I feel pestered or that I was asked aggressively. It was only time tabling and technology that prevented my participation.
 
While I see the good intention behind his proposal I am inclined to agree with others in saying that it is somewhat creating a possible issue out of a non-issue. I will not be supporting this proposal if it is brought to a vote.
 
Amerion:
While I see the good intention behind his proposal I am inclined to agree with others in saying that it is somewhat creating a possible issue out of a non-issue. I will not be supporting this proposal if it is brought to a vote.
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Wise comment.

I too see no call for legislating on a non-issue.
 
flemingovia:
To be fair, I was asked to take part in the broadcast, but in no way did I feel pestered or that I was asked aggressively. It was only time tabling and technology that prevented my participation.
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I wasn't even asked. :cry:
 
Gracius Maximus:
flemingovia:
To be fair, I was asked to take part in the broadcast, but in no way did I feel pestered or that I was asked aggressively. It was only time tabling and technology that prevented my participation.
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I wasn't even asked. :cry:
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I was asked atleast 5 times. I am willing to share half of them with you. xP
 
McMasterdonia's "inactivity" was caused by real life circumstances. Before that he had served multiple terms as delegate and in the Executive Council. Your blatant disregard or understanding regarding this region disturbs me.

Tomb made a mistake, and is rightfully seeing the consequences to that. It is disappointing and I am sad to see it happen, but sometimes lessons are necessary.

Gradea, I would recommend you withdraw this bill.

Do you want to know a good thing about TNP?

We don't elect serial sexual harassers to our delegacy. We don't let people like that be part of our community. We can be a tremendously difficult group at times, but we look after our own.

Contrary to Unibot who routinely throws people under the bus when it suits him. And I can bring up several logs from just earlier in this year where I was called a thick headed prick; as well as one last year where he likened me to a sexual predator because I had developed a friendship with an older woman on NS who happened to be a Defender he viewed as "his". He also routinely brands at least one other player a sexual predator.

Yes, Unibot may be the democratically elected delegate of The Rejected Realms, and when he fucks over your region like he's tried here, Balder, The East Pacific and The South Pacific, all in the name of a "defender homeland", I hope those words give you comfort.
 
So the only thing I see here is that Gradea is basically saying we should pass this just because TRR did?

I don't really see the necessity or any strong reason to limit the tags that a delegate may use.

~ Tomb
 
[me] will coup and tag the region as pigeon friendly.
 
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