Map Claims Thread

Alunya, we are setting up a large trade route that will hopefully span the entire North Pacific. If it goes ahead, would it be possible to add shipping lanes/ports/member countries to the map to represent it? Also, lots of people see these posts so I am going to take the opportunity to advertise the campaign: http://forum.thenorthpacific.org/topic/7260956/1/#new
Check out this link for more information. Syrixia and McMasterdonia have already joined. We are looking for nations of all sizes and types, and this route will hopefully bring economic and diplomatic benefits to everyone involved. Please consider joining!!!
 
And while you're at it, Alunya, don't forget to add Syrixia's new territories to the map!
(And get rid of the old ones)
(And add the new Ixelonian territory west of Tomb, you can't miss it)
 
Syrixia:
Alunya hasn't been that active, but I won't complain.

Alunya, TG me pl0x?
Funny, that sounds like a complaint.

Considering Alu was active yesterday evening, I'm gonna have to call bullshit on your assertion that he is inactive. Just because your request isnt completed on your time, doesn't mean that the person who needs to complete your request is absent. Calm yourself.
 
Alunya:
And here is the clincher. Oqoyscana's territory may become available on Thursday, November 13th, 2014. If it does, I am giving you, Chopwell first option here and now on it -- let me know before November 13th if you want it. If you don't exercise the option, or decline it, it then goes back into the wilderness for anyone to claim (within reason) after the thirteenth.
>^,,^<
Alunya
I said I wanted it so why then say:
Nonono, I want this map to be the official one; all we need changed is Oqoyscana into Nessuno.
Oqoyscana's old territory should be mine.......on the 13th.
 
Chopwellian:
Alunya:
And here is the clincher. Oqoyscana's territory may become available on Thursday, November 13th, 2014. If it does, I am giving you, Chopwell first option here and now on it -- let me know before November 13th if you want it. If you don't exercise the option, or decline it, it then goes back into the wilderness for anyone to claim (within reason) after the thirteenth.
>^,,^<
Alunya
I said I wanted it so why then say:
Nonono, I want this map to be the official one; all we need changed is Oqoyscana into Nessuno.
Oqoyscana's old territory should be mine.......on the 13th.
Didn't know that Nessuno had its own territory. Eh, apologies.
 
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Greetings Alunya!

Kialga-Lourti is looking to establish a place on the mainland portion(s) of the North Pacific to allow easier access between ourselves and our regional neighbors. The area outlined above is in the rough vicinity of what we would like. The absolute largest items we would like are a border with McMasterdonia and a border on the ocean. When we are marked, we would like to be lined in a green color.

Hopefully that is not of trouble, and thanks in advance!
~Kialga~
 
I would like to claim land. Here are the coordinates. Rights in between McMasterdonia and Aurora Orb. (I want my plot of land/borders to be a crimson/Soviet red color) And if my nation name is too long, just label it as "Bolshevik Republic"

19432737


Thank you, comrades.
 
Svoboda:

Alunya's a bit inactive right now; but she'll get around to it eventually.

Just letting you know you may have to wait a bit like I am.
 
Alunya is still quite active. They have done an excellent job on the map and I would like you to please be patient.
 
There will be a delay of a couple of more days. If I can, I'll complete most of this tomorrow, Tuesday, November 4th, 2014. However, I may not get to it all. Thursday, November 6th is a more realistic deadline.

Eumenor, I've wanted to do a sailing directions map for a while, which would include initial great circle headings and distances (nautical miles) between waypoints. Obviously, every major port is itself a waypoint. To reduce the amount of overhead (i.e., the number of routes), intermediate waypoints would be used. For those of you not aware of map projections, at 10,000 km by 10,000 km in area, the flat map you see is a poor approximation to an oblate spheroid.

What this means is that (1) a sailing direction map will take me a while, (2) it is computation intensive to calculate both directions and the distance of a great circle route, and (3) if we do this, then when a port is set on the map, it is set, no ifs, ands or buts. You can change territory, but it means you'll be leaving that port behind.

The alternative is to eyeball it and use the Pythagorean theorem on the current map, and be very vague about distances, direction and time of transit. That would be easiest, if unsatisfactory. Ideally, one would hire a bunch of cartographers and have them do a series of maps using Lambert conformal conic projections, but I don't feel like spending that sort of money on a free game.

Syrixia, I'll add your Syrixian territory to the map as best I can. Where it conflicts with previous claims, the previous claims take precedence. I do not add the territory of puppets in general; exceptions have been made for the Democratic Union because it is a multi-player, long-standing type of role-play. My advice for puppets is to create your own separate maps for the puppet territories -- they do not have to be located anywhere on the official map. In fact, it is preferable to keep them off because they come and go so quickly (just like some of our players).

As to the terrain, we're going with what Nierr had provided, plus additional islands as necessary. I will not be adding mountains or streams and the like; everyone is welcome to use their imagination to fill in such tiny details.

Chopwell, I see you have chosen to exercise the option on Oqoyscana's territory. We'll wait until November 13th to process it if it becomes available.

Kialga and Leon D. Trotsky, your claims are noted. Borders are done in light grey, and I choose black or white for lettering. For Kialga, I assume a medium or dark green is your preferred territory color. Leon D. Trotsky, I'll try my best to accommodate you request for Soviet Crimson Red, but Nasania and Francovania have similar colors in the same area. I reserve the right to use Hammer and Sickle Gold if necessary.

And Kialga, that looks like a nice stretch of beach you've claimed. The llamas say, "Surf's Up, Baby!"

>^,,^<
Alunya
 
Alunya:
There will be a delay of a couple of more days. If I can, I'll complete most of this tomorrow, Tuesday, November 4th, 2014. However, I may not get to it all. Thursday, November 6th is a more realistic deadline.

Eumenor, I've wanted to do a sailing directions map for a while, which would include initial great circle headings and distances (nautical miles) between waypoints. Obviously, every major port is itself a waypoint. To reduce the amount of overhead (i.e., the number of routes), intermediate waypoints would be used. For those of you not aware of map projections, at 10,000 km by 10,000 km in area, the flat map you see is a poor approximation to an oblate spheroid.

What this means is that (1) a sailing direction map will take me a while, (2) it is computation intensive to calculate both directions and the distance of a great circle route, and (3) if we do this, then when a port is set on the map, it is set, no ifs, ands or buts. You can change territory, but it means you'll be leaving that port behind.

The alternative is to eyeball it and use the Pythagorean theorem on the current map, and be very vague about distances, direction and time of transit. That would be easiest, if unsatisfactory. Ideally, one would hire a bunch of cartographers and have them do a series of maps using Lambert conformal conic projections, but I don't feel like spending that sort of money on a free game.

Syrixia, I'll add your Syrixian territory to the map as best I can. Where it conflicts with previous claims, the previous claims take precedence. I do not add the territory of puppets in general; exceptions have been made for the Democratic Union because it is a multi-player, long-standing type of role-play. My advice for puppets is to create your own separate maps for the puppet territories -- they do not have to be located anywhere on the official map. In fact, it is preferable to keep them off because they come and go so quickly (just like some of our players).

As to the terrain, we're going with what Nierr had provided, plus additional islands as necessary. I will not be adding mountains or streams and the like; everyone is welcome to use their imagination to fill in such tiny details.

Chopwell, I see you have chosen to exercise the option on Oqoyscana's territory. We'll wait until November 13th to process it if it becomes available.

Kialga and Leon D. Trotsky, your claims are noted. Borders are done in light grey, and I choose black or white for lettering. For Kialga, I assume a medium or dark green is your preferred territory color. Leon D. Trotsky, I'll try my best to accommodate you request for Soviet Crimson Red, but Nasania and Francovania have similar colors in the same area. I reserve the right to use Hammer and Sickle Gold if necessary.

And Kialga, that looks like a nice stretch of beach you've claimed. The llamas say, "Surf's Up, Baby!"

>^,,^<
Alunya
Alright; the new Ixelonian territory can be removed, that's OK with me. However, if possible could you still add my main territories, my Eumenorian exclave, and the Old Ixelonia region, as Tomb and I jointly occupy it?

And if possible could you get rid of the seven islands above Unicorn and the exclave in between New Haven America and McMasterdonia?

Finally, if possible, could you line it with the color I've provided on my map? The red I (and later you) used was slightly too light...

With all that said, thanks for finally responding! :D
 
Alunya:
Kialga and Leon D. Trotsky, your claims are noted. Borders are done in light grey, and I choose black or white for lettering. For Kialga, I assume a medium or dark green is your preferred territory color. Leon D. Trotsky, I'll try my best to accommodate you request for Soviet Crimson Red, but Nasania and Francovania have similar colors in the same area. I reserve the right to use Hammer and Sickle Gold if necessary.

And Kialga, that looks like a nice stretch of beach you've claimed. The llamas say, "Surf's Up, Baby!"

>^,,^<
Alunya
A dark green would be lovely, Alunya, thank you. Just be sure the llama's know they can come and surf whenever they please :P
 
Yrkidding:
-snip-
In other news, with the Lapse of Lajikstan, would it be at all possible for me to claim the territory consisting of the rest of the island that nation once held to my North? I don't think that is too unreasonable especially considering the current size of Eumenor, Egalotir, Aurora Orb, etc. I would become roughly the size of Norway XXVIII.
Hey Alyuna, I think you missed my last post, this is it. This of course includes the two small islands off the Northwest coast of the island. In addition, The Lancerian Empire and Archegnum have come to the agreement that the entirety of our physical island may be called Archlancer Island (the name Île-de-Archlancer will also be used interchangeably especially within The Empire as we our bilingual). As 2 of 3 nations of the island agree on this (and especially considering that the 3rd nation's territory on this island is merely a colony), do we need to also seek support from New Haven America or will that name be accepted? I also propose that the strait to the North of Archlancer Island be named the Strait of Archlancer or Détroit de Archlancer (the French equivalent), but that is your call and I imagine would need Demescia's acceptance.

Finally, this has not been negotiated yet, but should my claim go through, Archegnum and the Empire will begin negotiations as to a small city or naval base somewhere along the North shore of Archlancer Island, perhaps one of the two islands off the North West coast. Nothing set in stone yet, but just giving you a head's up.
 
NEW -- The Official Map of The North Pacific with Map Index!

The Lancerian Republic, your claim is noted and territory granted. As to names of continents, straits and the like, that is strictly up to you and your neighbors to decide. To reduce clutter, such things are not named on the political map. You may call it the Strait of Archlancer or Detroit de Archlancer as you wish. We Alunyans will still call it Meauw meow mew miyao mirao meyow which roughly translates to I wonder if those silly buggers can hit this dog with their spears from there? Don't ask...

Syrixia, your own territories have been relocated or added to the map. Those that you claimed for other nations that were not your own TNP nation, including your puppets, were not added to the map. You are welcome to create your own maps that show puppet territories; it is common courtesy, however, to remove the map legend designating such maps as an Official Map of The North Pacific from personal maps. However, free speech includes the right to be discourteous, so you are in no way obligated to do so. Carry on.

Kialga, you have been added to the map in the same dark green as Oqoyscana. It is up to you to determine which beaches permit llama surfing. Llamas hang eight on their boards, so one can always count on seeing a lot of camel toe on those beaches.

Svoboda Soyuz Iz Bolsheviki, I regret that I had to go with Hammer and Sickle Gold. I did make an exception and used Soviet Scarlet (it actually isn't crimson) for your lettering to compensate. (It is an exception, folks -- I will not take letter coloring requests.)

The Democratic Republic of Tomb, if you wish to have the role-play territory you acquired in conjunction with Syrixia, then please file a public claim in this thread.

I think this brings the map up to date.

>^,,^<
Alunya
 
Alunya:
NEW -- The Official Map of The North Pacific with Map Index!

The Lancerian Republic, your claim is noted and territory granted. As to names of continents, straits and the like, that is strictly up to you and your neighbors to decide. To reduce clutter, such things are not named on the political map. You may call it the Strait of Archlancer or Detroit de Archlancer as you wish. We Alunyans will still call it Meauw meow mew miyao mirao meyow which roughly translates to I wonder if those silly buggers can hit this dog with their spears from there? Don't ask...

Syrixia, your own territories have been relocated or added to the map. Those that you claimed for other nations that were not your own TNP nation, including your puppets, were not added to the map. You are welcome to create your own maps that show puppet territories; it is common courtesy, however, to remove the map legend designating such maps as an Official Map of The North Pacific from personal maps. However, free speech includes the right to be discourteous, so you are in no way obligated to do so. Carry on.

Kialga, you have been added to the map in the same dark green as Oqoyscana. It is up to you to determine which beaches permit llama surfing. Llamas hang eight on their boards, so one can always count on seeing a lot of camel toe on those beaches.

Svoboda Soyuz Iz Bolsheviki, I regret that I had to go with Hammer and Sickle Gold. I did make an exception and used Soviet Scarlet (it actually isn't crimson) for your lettering to compensate. (It is an exception, folks -- I will not take letter coloring requests.)

The Democratic Republic of Tomb, if you wish to have the role-play territory you acquired in conjunction with Syrixia, then please file a public claim in this thread.

I think this brings the map up to date.

>^,,^<
Alunya
Very nice! Applause from the Syrixian people!
 
Thanks Alunya! In light of the not having names for continents/islands though, might I suggest that we make a version of the original physical map with those names included on it for reference?
 
Yrkidding:
Thanks Alunya! In light of the not having names for continents/islands though, might I suggest that we make a version of the original physical map with those names included on it for reference?
I second the motion!
 
Yrkidding:
Thanks Alunya! In light of the not having names for continents/islands though, might I suggest that we make a version of the original physical map with those names included on it for reference?
I third it! :agree:
 
MAP

The link above shows the new claims I would like.

I would like the lands that extend to the red line. If not, could i have the lines that extend to the marron? And if not that could I have the ones that extend to the violet one?
 
Who thinks we should add a super tall mountain to one of the wilderness land masses in TNP and start a role play to see who gets to the top first?
 
Hi Alunya,
Could we perhaps just have a dotted line called the 'Great North Pacific Trade Route connecting these countries through McMasterdonia:
Dalies, Chopwell, Malvad, Nessuno, Syrixia and Eumenor.
Or we could wait for the sailing distances map. Your advice would be much appreciated. This route will greatly increase the speed of cat-food circulation.
Thanks!
 
I think the Trade Route should have its own map so as to not interfere with the political one.
 
Alunya, could you edit my territories based on the map below? I want to drop my section of Ixelonia. Tomb, if it decides so, may claim all of Ixelonia if it chooses.

syrixiamap2.png
 
Yrkidding:
Thanks Alunya! In light of the not having names for continents/islands though, might I suggest that we make a version of the original physical map with those names included on it for reference?
I think this is a good idea. The one caveat I have is that there are some territories, (Avalon, the Democratic Union, Syrixia) that are not on the original physical map. I'm inclined to update that map first, then add names for physical features to a copy of it. I'm also for creating a geographical lexicon -- so that others can add additional names for the same features.
Andrew:
MAP

The link above shows the new claims I would like.

I would like the lands that extend to the red line. If not, could i have the lines that extend to the marron? And if not that could I have the ones that extend to the violet one?
I'm acknowledging that you made this post; I haven't made a decision on it yet. Part of what I consider is how I might divide the space in the future if another country wants to be in the area. At point 26 font size, the shape has to accommodate the name of a country as well. Would you be okay with a change in shape favoring either the north or the south of any extension?
Syrixia:
I think the Trade Route should have its own map so as to not interfere with the political one.
This is sensible. However, I may do this as an overlay that fits on top of the political map. Most folks want to see trade routes relative to the polities. The routes are less likely to change than the nations on the map -- I hope.
Corporal Clegg:
Can I please have the area circled in blue?
ZkaqMwK
That is Nierr's last original update and is obsolescent. I've finally figured out where it was coming from, and put in a reference to the current political map instead, which you should see.

My apologies to you because I did not figure that out and correct it sooner.

>^,,^<
Alunya
 
Alunya:
Yrkidding:
Thanks Alunya! In light of the not having names for continents/islands though, might I suggest that we make a version of the original physical map with those names included on it for reference?
I think this is a good idea. The one caveat I have is that there are some territories, (Avalon, the Democratic Union, Syrixia) that are not on the original physical map. I'm inclined to update that map first, then add names for physical features to a copy of it. I'm also for creating a geographical lexicon -- so that others can add additional names for the same features.
Andrew:
MAP

The link above shows the new claims I would like.

I would like the lands that extend to the red line. If not, could i have the lines that extend to the marron? And if not that could I have the ones that extend to the violet one?
I'm acknowledging that you made this post; I haven't made a decision on it yet. Part of what I consider is how I might divide the space in the future if another country wants to be in the area. At point 26 font size, the shape has to accommodate the name of a country as well. Would you be okay with a change in shape favoring either the north or the south of any extension?
Syrixia:
I think the Trade Route should have its own map so as to not interfere with the political one.
This is sensible. However, I may do this as an overlay that fits on top of the political map. Most folks want to see trade routes relative to the polities. The routes are less likely to change than the nations on the map -- I hope.
Corporal Clegg:
Can I please have the area circled in blue?
ZkaqMwK
That is Nierr's last original update and is obsolescent. I've finally figured out where it was coming from, and put in a reference to the current political map instead, which you should see.

My apologies to you because I did not figure that out and correct it sooner.

>^,,^<
Alunya
if causes any hassle or could risk my country getting downsized in future. Nevermind :P
 
Alunya:
Yrkidding:
Thanks Alunya! In light of the not having names for continents/islands though, might I suggest that we make a version of the original physical map with those names included on it for reference?
I think this is a good idea. The one caveat I have is that there are some territories, (Avalon, the Democratic Union, Syrixia) that are not on the original physical map. I'm inclined to update that map first, then add names for physical features to a copy of it. I'm also for creating a geographical lexicon -- so that others can add additional names for the same features.
Andrew:
MAP

The link above shows the new claims I would like.

I would like the lands that extend to the red line. If not, could i have the lines that extend to the marron? And if not that could I have the ones that extend to the violet one?
I'm acknowledging that you made this post; I haven't made a decision on it yet. Part of what I consider is how I might divide the space in the future if another country wants to be in the area. At point 26 font size, the shape has to accommodate the name of a country as well. Would you be okay with a change in shape favoring either the north or the south of any extension?
Syrixia:
I think the Trade Route should have its own map so as to not interfere with the political one.
This is sensible. However, I may do this as an overlay that fits on top of the political map. Most folks want to see trade routes relative to the polities. The routes are less likely to change than the nations on the map -- I hope.
Corporal Clegg:
Can I please have the area circled in blue?
ZkaqMwK
That is Nierr's last original update and is obsolescent. I've finally figured out where it was coming from, and put in a reference to the current political map instead, which you should see.

My apologies to you because I did not figure that out and correct it sooner.

>^,,^<
Alunya
Did you see my previous post about dropping Ixelonia? I wanted to know your thoughts on that too.
 
Andrew:
If causes any hassle or could risk my country getting downsized in future. Nevermind :P
I won't downsize anyone without their approval, so that isn't an issue. The key question is whether you need those eastern extensions to be vertically linear, or whether it would be okay if, for example, I gave you territory up to the red line in the north and no extension at all to the south. (Or vice versa.)

Otherwise, I'm left with a narrow band between you and Svoboda Soyuz Iz Bolsheviki that would be hard to place a nation inside. It is the shape of the remaining unclaimed space that concerns me.

The territory you already have, you already have. No one else can claim it.

>^,,^<
Alunya
 
Alunya, seeing that Syrixia dropped his claim to Ixelonia, The Democratic Republic of Tomb will not be claiming it. I just wanted to clarify that.

Thank you :)

~ Tomb
 
The Democratic Republic of Tomb:
Alunya, seeing that Syrixia dropped his claim to Ixelonia, The Democratic Republic of Tomb will not be claiming it. I just wanted to clarify that.

Thank you :)

~ Tomb
Still it was a fun role-play. We should do one again sometime, though we'd make it probably much more...peaceful.
 
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