The North Pacific v. JAL

Exhibit A at Sat Sep 10 22:48 UTC 2011:

History: The North Pacific
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Major Events

* 109 days ago: Embassy established between The North Pacific and Equinox.
* 164 days ago: Embassy established between 10000 Islands and The North Pacific.
* 167 days ago: Embassy cancelled between South Pacific and The North Pacific.
* 167 days ago: Embassy cancelled between Conservadom and The North Pacific.
* 167 days ago: Embassy cancelled between Laurentia and The North Pacific.
* 167 days ago: Embassy cancelled between NationStates and The North Pacific.
* 167 days ago: Embassy cancelled between Free Thought and The North Pacific.
* 167 days ago: Embassy cancelled between Global Right Alliance and The North Pacific.
* 167 days ago: Embassy cancelled between The South and The North Pacific.
* 167 days ago: Embassy cancelled between Guanxi and The North Pacific.
* 167 days ago: Embassy established between The West Pacific and The North Pacific.
* 168 days ago: Embassy established between Lazarus and The North Pacific.
* 172 days ago: Embassy established between The North Pacific and The Rejected Realms.
* 172 days ago: Embassy established between The North Pacific and The East Pacific.
* 173 days ago: Embassy established between South Pacific and The North Pacific.
* 173 days ago: Embassy established between The South Pacific and The North Pacific.
* 173 days ago: Embassy established between The Pacific and The North Pacific.
* 174 days ago: Embassy established between Conservadom and The North Pacific.
* 174 days ago: Embassy established between Laurentia and The North Pacific.
* 174 days ago: Embassy established between NationStates and The North Pacific.
* 174 days ago: Embassy established between Free Thought and The North Pacific.
* 174 days ago: Embassy established between Global Right Alliance and The North Pacific.
* 174 days ago: Embassy established between The South and The North Pacific.
* 174 days ago: Embassy established between The North Pacific and Guanxi.
* 174 days ago: Embassy established between The North Pacific and The Kodiak Republic.
* 174 days ago: Embassy established between The North Pacific and Eastern Islands of Dharma.
* 177 days ago: The Fairly Well-Liked Dominion of Blackshear41 elected WA Delegate (ending The Free State of Chodean Kal's reign after 57 days).
* 234 days ago: The Free State of Chodean Kal elected WA Delegate (ending The Understated Modesty of Flemingovia's reign after 90 days).
* 325 days ago: The Understated Modesty of Flemingovia elected WA Delegate (ending The Islamofascist Terror State of Blue Wolf II's reign).
* 326 days ago: The Islamofascist Terror State of Blue Wolf II elected WA Delegate (ending The Imperial Founder of Durkadurkiranistan II's reign after 17 days).
* 343 days ago: The Imperial Founder of Durkadurkiranistan II elected WA Delegate (ending The Beat of Groovistan's reign).
* 344 days ago: The Beat of Groovistan elected WA Delegate (ending The Empire of Ermarian's reign after 66 days).
* 1 year 45 days ago: The Empire of Ermarian elected WA Delegate (ending Shoeless joe's reign after 4 days).
* 1 year 50 days ago: Shoeless joe elected WA Delegate (ending The Cola Wars Veteran of New Kervoskia's reign after 140 days).
* 1 year 191 days ago: The Cola Wars Veteran of New Kervoskia elected WA Delegate.
* 1 year 191 days ago: Durkadurkiranistan ceased to exist, ending a reign of 155 days.
* 1 year 346 days ago: Durkadurkiranistan elected WA Delegate.


Longest Serving WA DelegateThe Rebirth of Sydia: 218 days.

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Exhibit B at Sat Sep 10 22:48 UTC 2011:

On The North Pacific Provisional Authority
#1 The Poo Dynasty

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 09:50 PM
To set the stage, Ermarian became delegate after 'liberating' the North Pacific from Shoeless Joe three months ago. Understand that I use the term 'liberating' extremely loosely because Shoeless Joe seemed to genuinely care about the region and was perfectly willing to work with it. Ermarian was an engaging delegate for several weeks but basically abandoned his nation by September, at which point I created Durkadurkiranistan II.

Almost immediately I had Durka join the World Assembly and begin swapping aggressively. I came within ten endorsements of Ermarian before Dyr Nasad wrote and sent an incredibly effective unendorsement telegram against me. Obviously this was not terribly difficult to do; I had been delegate before and ejected nearly two thousand nations from the region that time. I countered with an unendorsement telegram of my own, and Ermarian's endorsement count plummeted by 20-25 endorsements. This enabled the unknown Groovistan became delegate for twelve hours but I quickly surpassed him to become delegate.

By this point I began to plan a change of government. My core cabinet consisted of my RL friends but there were three or four NSers in the periphery. The original plan was to replace the old government with another democratic (but less bureaucratic) one, but I scrapped that idea when it became clear I wouldn't be able to hold onto the region for more than a week or two. At this point the idea shifted to being able to make the largest mark possible while I still could - which meant mass ejections and the like. For the most part the NS part of my cabinet didn't approve; some came to me privately with their resignations - which was fine with me - while others had to be found out and expelled. They were on the periphery for a reason.

I began what seemed to be just another purge last Thursday, but this time I closely monitored my influence levels throughout. Using the nation West Frisia as a barometer it became apparent after 500-600 ejections that Durka2's minimal influence was beginning to drain measurably. I ceased the purge with about 90% of my influence intact, struck down the old government and replaced it with my own - the North Pacific Provisional Authority (s15.invisionfree.invalid/nppa). My first policy was to eject all nations created in TNP accepting them back only after they registered on our new regional forum. This policy was termed 'Project Purge'.

Project Purge was the centerpiece of the Provisional Authority and it rubbed most gameplayers the wrong way. I received close to a hundred pieces of hate mail in my telegram inbox. All in all I thought it was hilariously amusing. Many called me a 'griefer' as if that term even means anything under the current rule set. I guess that makes me like an onsite forum destroyer. *rolls eyes* There is quite a bit of hate mail and hate posts on the NPPA forums under the free speech subforum (visible to guests) but much of it is likely unsafe for work so be warned.

With such terrible publicity my endorsement count began to fall rapidly. Blue Wolf came quite close but I was able to ban just enough low influence natives to prevent him from surpassing my native endorsement count. There were three invasions. The first two were complete failures given that I was sitting right there at the computer. The third attempt was successful since it was during the morning update while I was at work. Prior to that morning update I was handing off my nation to a cabinet member to cover the mornings, but he wasn't available on the liberation morning, or most weekday mornings actually. In any event I believe I would have been surpassed by native endorsements within the next 24 hours and I would have been toppled anyway. I was running on almost zero influence by this point and was hence unable to ban native WA's at that point.

All in all there were about 800-900 casualties/ejections, including several dozen banned WA's. This was done on basically a two week's worth of influence. I tried to make the most of it. I for one had fun.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 10:12 PM
I didn't notice the old government being "struck down". Near as I can tell they carried on as if you were a minor irritatant who would soon be gone - a bit like acne.

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 03:06 AM
Thanks. That was a most interesting read.

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 03:52 AM
I believe the only way to get rid of the entrenched "golden circle" of old school players who run the feeders (yes, I'm aware that I am talking about myself as well), is to strip the region down to nothing and somehow manage to let complete chaos reign for at least two weeks or until an unknown or at least newish nation steps forward. This, of course means we old farts would have to swallow our pride and egos and cooperate by staying out of it.

And that's why I think feeder governments aren't going to change any time soon, no matter how many coups we stage or attempts to stir up "the people." Our egos won't allow us to let it go. We worked damned hard to get things all safe and manageable.

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Posted 23 October 2010 - 08:54 PM
Lulz. Successful coups are pure evil, humour and fanatically correct grammar. Out Nazi the Nazis. Older players make for the best material when they show up bent out of shape. See Great Bight.

So I've heard anyway. heh.

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 03:41 AM
pretty funny stuff I thought.

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 06:52 PM
How many more banjections need to occur before you can bump Pierconium for the title?

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 01:20 PM
TAO, on Nov 3 2010, 07:52 PM, said:
How many more banjections need to occur before you can bump Pierconium for the title?

A lot unfortunately. 2500+ I think. So that's something like two more coups to go.

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 01:54 PM
Darkesia, on Oct 22 2010, 04:52 AM, said:
I believe the only way to get rid of the entrenched "golden circle" of old school players who run the feeders (yes, I'm aware that I am talking about myself as well), is to strip the region down to nothing and somehow manage to let complete chaos reign for at least two weeks or until an unknown or at least newish nation steps forward. This, of course means we old farts would have to swallow our pride and egos and cooperate by staying out of it.

And that's why I think feeder governments aren't going to change any time soon, no matter how many coups we stage or attempts to stir up "the people." Our egos won't allow us to let it go. We worked damned hard to get things all safe and manageable.

Agreed. The influence aristocracy over at TNP will never allow for any long term changes even if they are democratic in nature. Any 'rogue' will be up against scores of old farts not to mention the entire defender community. The morning update makes it even more difficult for those of us with real lives/jobs.

The governments that controlled the feeders at the beginning of influence will control them forever. I guess that was intended.

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Exhibit C at Sat Sep 10 22:53 UTC 2011:

TNP Delegacy; change is close to happening
Topic Started: Sep 30 2010, 06:11 PM (536 Views)
Westwind Sep 30 2010, 06:11 PM Post #1

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FYI, the Delegacy of TNP will likely change hands shortly, regardless of the situation with elections. While Ermarian has been inactive and has failed to maintain the health of the delegacy through trading endorsements, others have been trading endorsements vigorously. There are also unendorsement campaigns going on.

As it currently stands, Groovistan or Durkadurkiranistan are most likely to become our next delegate, but the situation is in flux. There currently are 215 WA nations in the region.

Nations with over 50 endorsements:

1: ermarian 90
2: groovistan 86
3: durkadurkiranistan_ii 84
4: yaorozu 81
5: kitabo 74
5: herzliyya 74
7: vectra_octavian 73
8: blue_wolf_ii 71
9: grosseschnauzer 69
9: unterwasserseestaat 69
11: ilvsivm_ii 63
11: moany_old_gits 63
11: andromeda_islands 63
11: zemnaya_svoboda 63
15: novare_res 62
15: former_english_colony 62
17: pasargad 61
17: gioto 61
19: whereisthatistan 60
20: new_allied_australia 59
21: oneofakynd 56
21: great_bights_mum 56
23: andrapos 55
24: laibach 52

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John Ashcroft Land Sep 30 2010, 08:22 PM Post #2

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There are at least three unendorsement campaigns against Ermarian, and two against me. We are both losing endorsements steadily so I expect Blue Wolf (who is vigorously endorsement swapping) or Groovistan to be our next delegate.

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Moany Old Gits Sep 30 2010, 09:22 PM Post #3

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best we pick a delegate as soon as

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If the region is couped again, i think that will be pretty much me done with the game. While I am keen to see TNP revived and more active, I am not prepared to do another war. Been there, done that.

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I'm fairly certain I've never posted on this board before, so let me first say: Hello. Secondly, as is probably obvious, I'm not nearly active enough in this game to be a delegate, either good or bad. I really just like endorsing other nations. So if the worst-case scenario should come to pass and I end up in the driver's seat, I'm not going to stand in the way of any rightful delegate.

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Thanks for the post Groovistan, I appreciate it. It does look like you'll have the delegacy shortly.

The count is now:

Ermarian - 89
Groovistan - 87
Durkadurkiranistan II - 80
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Groove now has more endorsements, come the noon update, he'll have. Hail the new overlord!

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Hail Groovistan!

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Westwind Oct 1 2010, 08:48 PM Post #9

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And the wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round...

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Groov is a good caretaker until we finish the elections, considering that he's promised to step aside (and if he wanted it, he would have tried long ago)

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So why did Unibot and JAL unendorse him? Doesn't that mean JAL has the most?

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Life is interesting.

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The Palindromic Land
Oct 2 2010, 01:28 AM
So why did Unibot and JAL unendorse him? Doesn't that mean JAL has the most?
Yes..and after Groov's post here, this cant be called anything other than a coup

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Well, so much for a transition

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The problem is a series of Delegates who don't really want to be Delegate; I've never seen such a string of Delegates disappearing as we've had the last few months.
We need to get past the elections, and move forward. I'm sure Flem, Elu and I would like to archive some of the executive branch subforums, as many of them aren't being used, but since each Delegate has the authority to structure the Executive Branch according to their liking, it makes it hard for Admin to read the minds of absentee delegates.

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Anarchy in the NP! It's coming sometime, it might be!

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Elections will still happen as scheduled so chillax Dyr.
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Yay Jal!

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And updated endorsement list:

Nations: 1755, UN:218

1: durkadurkiranistan_ii 113
2: blue_wolf_ii 93
3: groovistan 89
4: kitabo 88
5: grosseschnauzer 87
6: yaorozu 84
6: herzliyya 84
8: vectra_octavian 82
9: former_english_colony 78
9: ermarian 78
11: oneofakynd 72
12: unterwasserseestaat 71
13: andromeda_islands 70
14: pasargad 69
14: flemingovia 69
16: moany_old_gits 67
17: ilvsivm_ii 66
17: siradetes 66
17: zemnaya_svoboda 66
20: whereisthatistan 62
21: novare_res 61
22: new_allied_australia 60
23: great_bights_mum 59
24: laibach 57
25: andrapos 56
26: wisconsota 54
26: span 54
28: new_greasbyland 53
28: fengate 53
30: liononim 52
31: halinopia 51
31: space_nomad_people 51
33: ozmium 50
33: enif 50
33: west_frisia 50
33: impenyer 50



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BW is now the WA Delegate, and JAL has been deposed. I am assuming we should focus on getting Flem into the WA Delegate seat by next update?

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Exhibit D at Sat Sep 10 22:57 UTC 2011:

The Regional Election October 2010; Cast votes for candidates here
Topic Started: Oct 1 2010, 10:58 PM (1,026 Views)
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Blue Wolf II is declared vice delegate with an un-assailable lead of 11 votes

All voting is over done, finished kaput.

Rum all round

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Hawt.

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thanks you for your votes for CLO

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So, when does the WFE start reflecting the change in delegates?

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Soon hopefully - then Flemingovia can burn up all the laws

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The Palindromic Land
Oct 12 2010, 02:34 AM
So, when does the WFE start reflecting the change in delegates?
When Flem overtakes JAL in endorsements, then the WFE changes. At present, JAL has 110 endorsements, and Flem has 62. For additional comparison, Vice Delegate-elect BW has 86. So, depending on the rate Flem is endorsing, and if JAL starts to slowly decline in endos, then the transition should only take a few days. Yet... history has demonstrated that in many cases TNP transitions aren't as fast as we want them to be.

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Oct 13 2010, 07:40 AM
..., then the transition should only take a few days. Yet... history has demonstrated that in many cases TNP transitions aren't as fast as we want them to be.
Oh yes, considering JAL is still endorsing.

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Also, as I was getting at, the WFE still says "Please endorse The Commonwealth of Durkadurkiranistan II to ensure a stable and secure democracy."

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We can always encourage nations to unendorse JAL and I'll continue to endoswap if it comes to that. Fairly sure I could surpass him with minimal effort.

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Interesting. Well, it's good to see that TNP election is up and running again like it used to.

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Usually the outgoing delegate changes the WFE to endorse the new delegate which is what Palindromic land means. JAL isn't doing that yet - maybe he's busy.

Anyway it doesn't matter - Flemingovia can endorse his way there.

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The Palindromic Land Oct 15 2010, 03:09 AM Post #52

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Well, there's an inferno, but I don't know that's it what you expected.

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LOL so I see

Never mind - there won't be too many nations left but still - we'll just endorse Flemingovia as usual.

(Its all a game and I hope no-one is too upset)

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JAL's Unendorse TG


Topic Started: Oct 16 2010, 10:25 PM (804 Views)


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Durkadurkiranistan II

I noticed you have endorsed Blue Wolf II. I urge you to unendorse him for the following reasons.

- He is not the elected delegate of The North Pacific. He is attempting to carry out an illegal coup against the elected government and your endorsement is helping him to take over.

- He has been delegate before, but while he was delegate he didn't vote on a single WA resolution. He ignored the will of the region.

- His inactivity as delegate caused the region serious harm. He hardly even logged into his nation, never posted on the Civil HQ, and never made any effort to interact with the nations of the North Pacific. The only thing he did in his two months as delegate was to illegally ban dissenting nations from the region.

This region (The North Pacific) is supposed to be a nurturing ground for the game. Not for someone else to play king of the hill. For the sake of the game and the nations of the North Pacific, please do not endorse him.


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Isn't that adorable?



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He is a master at artful lies, I'll give him that.



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And I at the people who actually voted for JAL..



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Blue Wolf II

Oct 16 2010, 10:48 PM

He is a master at artful lies, I'll give him that.

Aw, don't do yourself down. I'm sure you can better him...



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Aww, you do care Sedge!



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How long before JAL starts inviting people in to prop him up, do you think?

And how long after that before those he invites in realise that he is a plonker and leave in disgust?



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flemingovia

Oct 16 2010, 11:09 PM

How long before JAL starts inviting people in to prop him up, do you think?

And how long after that before those he invites in realise that he is a plonker and leave in disgust?

the second may very easily happen before the first



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Oct 16 2010, 11:23 PM Post #10



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Blue Wolf II

Oct 16 2010, 11:04 PM

Aww, you do care Sedge!

If you're short of ideas...

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I noticed you have endorsed Durkadurkiranistan II. I urge you to unendorse him for the following reasons.

- That kitten in his flag may look cute, but what he doesn't tell you is that he killed and stuffed it.

- He thinks the Chilean miners should have "dug themselves out".

- In his election campaign, he claimed he "was not a witch". This is not true.

This region (The North Pacific) is supposed to be a nurturing ground for the game. Not for someone else to play king of the hill. For the sake of the game and the nations of the North Pacific, please do not endorse him.





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Blue Wolf II


Oct 16 2010, 11:41 PM Post #11



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Kinky.



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HEM


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Yeah...this is a bad coup...



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JAL seems to forget that there are enough WA members in TNP with more influence than he can spare to use tha will gradually endo Flem and BW as the elected Delegate and Vice Delegate, and unendorse him that he is bound to fail badly.

And If BW was ever Delegate of TNP, how come I don't remember it?



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Blue Wolf II


Oct 17 2010, 05:10 AM Post #14



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We must have all been on vacation when it happened.



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I was cause I don't remember it either.



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Thus JAL's reputation as a twat is cemented.



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HEM


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Maybe Blue Wolf operates under an alias, and only the wise JAL truly knows both of his personas?



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Blue Wolf II


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Shh, don't tell anyone but I'm really UPS Rail. But really, tell no one, it's a secret



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Oh ho ho, UPS Rail? Or should we say "Sir Paul"!!



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It's about damn time you came back UPS Rail. Been waiting six years for you to get busy again ! Someone go wake up Great Bight.

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and er..something bad is happenning? a recent post at TNP's RMB:

2 hours ago The Commonwealth of Durkadurkiranistan II

Citizens,

Over the following weeks I will be setting various population goals for the region. Over time we become a squeaky-clean region consisting entirely of WA's and forum-goers by ejecting the rabble.

The current population aim is to have the region under 1500 nations by next Wednesday.

Have a nice day!


latest TNP's WFB:

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Welcome to the jungle!

Please endorse The Commonwealth of Durkadurkiranistan II to ensure a stable and prosperous region.

Announcing the North Pacific Provisional Authority and Project Purge. Our new forums are located here

All new nations created within the North Pacific are to be ejected from the region. Rejectees are welcome to return pending registration on the forum.

Adspam is prohibited and violators will be banned.





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Blue Wolf II


Oct 15 2010, 08:18 AM Post #6



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JAL being JAL.



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James2spooky


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there's a boost in TRR's population



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It's a cute attempt, but with his level of influence, it won't last long. And BW is correct: this is merely JAL being JAL.



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He also has a post on the Gameplay forum.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=75604



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JAL really doesn't get it, does he? Such tactics end up hurting a feeder region such as ours, and it is just plain stupid. The problem for JAL is that those most likely to reject his behavior already have more influence than he does, and are experienced in dealing with rouges.



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Oct 15 2010, 08:07 PM Post #11



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It'll be ok (I hope)

We'll carry on for a few days until it dies down.

Thanks Flem for your work cutting down the forums - sounds great



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Oct 15 2010, 08:47 PM Post #12



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Rogue delegate?

This is the first time I really feel soooo much at home again after having returned a couple of days ago to the forum.



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Good to be back, eh? Just like Shoeless Joe's miserable "coup" earlier this year, it won't last long. He uses the regular rhetoric that has been used by "rogues" since Great Bights time, yet he doesn't have it in him to go for the long haul. It's, in my opinion, disappointing. I want a refund, darn it!



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HEM


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I thought the Union revolution was better



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Dalimbar


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I still want a refund from that play!

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