Questions for the prime minister, part deux

As far as I was concerned back in my brief stop over as MoEA, embassy treaties could be signed by the MoEA without approval of the RA. Any agreement or treaty that require a military relationship was required to have a cabinet vote (so I'm assuming the Lion Star Pact is heading that way if re-signed). And full blown alliances would require the RA's approval. At least that was the intended point of the new MoEA legislation we put through a couple of months back.

Actually, having looked at the constitution and the amendment that was voted through involving this, I notice the constitution hasn't been updated with these new changes.

RA Vote on Article 2 Section 4

Unless there was some reason why this amendment hasn't been made?

Not having read the convention articles I don't know the level of commitment required, but I'm reasonbly sure TNP Law 9 Article 5 inferes the same distinctions apply to agreements with multi-regional organisation as to those with individual regions(ie. if were forced to offer military support in some way it would count as an alliance, and therefore require RA approval).

Or at least thats how I read it. :blink:

Edit - Sorry about the gate crashing Flem, didn't read the thread title before posting. :duh:
 
What appears to have happened is that the RV?RA merger amendment used the language of the particular clause as it read prior to the amendment that changed the process concerning treaty approval. Approval of the merger amendment effective reinstated the former landguage of the section. There are a couple of other elements of the Constitution that should have been covered by the merger amendment and that were not, so I guess we are going to need a technical corrections proposal to clean up the changes caused by the RA/RV merger.

Getting back to the point of my original question, even under the treaty amendment, this convention does not appear to be a treaty dealing with military alliances or the establishment of diplomatic relations. It does deal with the creatuib of a list of acts that are declared illegal.

I would suggest that the adoption of any measure that deal with the definition of conduct as being illegal needs to be approved by the Regional Assembly. Article V Section 5 of the Constitution (that lists the grounds of court proceedings) includes acts concerning the threat or use of force, and as such this convention constitutes legislation that implements the Constitution, and thus, needs adoption by the regional assembly.
 
The RA Merger was written using whatever language was posted in the Constitution topics at the time. If that's what appeared in the RA Merger, that's what was in the Constitution.

If there are so many problems with the merger, why were they not brought up before it was passed? Why can people not seem to understand this simple concept?
 
With referece to this thread particularly, how would you assess your current term as Prime Minister?

What do you hope to achieve in the remaining 3 weeks of this term?
 
candidly, not as successful as it might have been, and I am not going to engage in flim flam to pretend that more has been achieved than has been.

Those who know me well will know that I have been incredibly busy with RL work lately, especially over the past two months. As well as selling Big Issue on street corners, I have opened a side line washing car windowscreens at junctions. This follows the failure of my last business venture: placing a cardbord sign round my neck saying "I will drop my trousers for cash."

Seriously, I want to pay tribute to my cabinet who have simply and skillfully got on with the job with less input from me than should have been the case. They have seen a far more active NPA, reorganisation of the Diplomatic corps, tidying up on the legislative front and, remarkably for the NP, no trials or impeachments. in this I can take little credit, but they can take much.

plus, we are now in the longest period of stability and peace in The North Pacific most folks: certainly the longest period since before the Great Bight era. the fact that Hers and I were able to do an April Fool joke about us becoming a franchise of LWU without folks immediately lighting the torches speaks volumes about the stability of the region: A year ago that would have been unthinkable.

I will write more later today, I hope. The lights are turning red and I have windscreens to wash.
 
Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule to reply.

I look forward to your further posting.
 
flemingovia:
... no trials or impeachments. ...

plus, we are now in the longest period of stability and peace in The North Pacific most folks: certainly the longest period since before the Great Bight era. the fact that Hers and I were able to do an April Fool joke about us becoming a franchise of LWU without folks immediately lighting the torches speaks volumes about the stability of the region: A year ago that would have been unthinkable.
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What you didn't see on the other side of the LCDs and CRTs dosen't seem to worry you.

I'm impressed
 
What bout the frog?

Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?

Have you ever seen the movie Airplane?

Out of all of the jobs, which did you like best?
 
1. The frog and I are just good friends. The photos you may have seen in the tabloid press have a perfectly innocent explaination. The frog had got stuck in a hedge, and I was trying to push it through. I removed my trousers simply so that they would not get covered in mud.

2. Again, a tabloid slur. I was on a package tour to Istanbul, and I did not realise that I was signed up for a tour of a men's prison. I thought I was going to a swimming pool. That is why I arrived at the prison gates wearing nothing but swimming trunks and liberally covered in baby oil. The "handcuffs" referred to in the papers were simply swimming aids.

3. Airplane is a fine movie. the whole series is first class. Almost (but not quite) as good as the police acadamy movies, especially "mission to Moscow". Sheer class.

4. I enjoy all my jobs. Selling the Big Issue was, however, a career highlight.
 
Who shot Mr. Burns?

Do you like being administrator?

If you don't like being an admin, can I have the spot?

*vision into the future: TNP is burning and people are screaming with a giant fleet of sinister UFOs flying overhead repeating "Obey, AI!"*
 
Apollo-Industria:
If you don't like being an admin, can I have the spot?

*vision into the future: TNP is burning and people are screaming with a giant fleet of sinister UFOs flying overhead repeating "Obey, AI!"*
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No.

Can we ask more sensible questions, please? I think I've already asked this before....
 
Sorry. But you did not ask that before. You asked why are you asking stupid questions with no point. Just to be technical.

Anyway, what other regions are you a aprt of?
 
me? Pretty much the only other region I am involved in is the West Pacific, where I am/was a member of the GA. But I have never been part of the government there, only a citizen.

I am an admin on the forum of a small region, 0000 Land of Scientific Reason, where my wife Cruithne is delegate. I became admin there just to help her set up the forum.

Pretty much, that is it. My focus has always been The North Pacific.
 
Just a few of questions, Flem, if you don't mind.


Having been absent for a couple of months now, could you explain to me what the cabinet has accomplished in this term? How much forward motion has there been, do you believe?

How do you feel TNP stands diplomatically now? When I was MoEA, I worked hard to improve our image with the outside world, but that task was far from complete when I left.

Why do you believe the NPA suffers so badly in membership, and could you have done more to help improve that?

flemingovia:
plus, we are now in the longest period of stability and peace in The North Pacific most folks: certainly the longest period since before the Great Bight era. the fact that Hers and I were able to do an April Fool joke about us becoming a franchise of LWU without folks immediately lighting the torches speaks volumes about the stability of the region: A year ago that would have been unthinkable.
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Do you believe the above quote has anything to do with your term and if so, could you please expand on why?
 
Digitalis:
flemingovia:
plus, we are now in the longest period of stability and peace in The North Pacific most folks: certainly the longest period since before the Great Bight era. the fact that Hers and I were able to do an April Fool joke about us becoming a franchise of LWU without folks immediately lighting the torches speaks volumes about the stability of the region: A year ago that would have been unthinkable.
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Do you believe the above quote has anything to do with your term and if so, could you please expand on why?
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Or is it just part of a dying game...
 
How many of Fedele's conspiracies have you believed in? Do you watch South Park? If you were partner administrator, who would be the Root? (just a little joke)
 
Well, those were most enlightening answers Flem.

It appears that our Premier has better things to do than reply to the electorate.
 
Having been absent for a couple of months now, could you explain to me what the cabinet has accomplished in this term? How much forward motion has there been, do you believe?
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This has been a quiet term, in some ways, but significant work has been done behind the scenes on the constitution, the merging of the RA and RV, etc. This cabinet has also had to consider our response to NS rule changes, and changes of regime in the West Pacific and the Pacific.

There is more I would have liked to have done, and earlier replies in this thread should show that I am far from personally satisfied. I look forward to the next PM building on the foundations we now have.

How do you feel TNP stands diplomatically now? When I was MoEA, I worked hard to improve our image with the outside world, but that task was far from complete when I left.
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This question would best be answered by the MOEA, and I suggest you repeat the question in their office. Formally, we have seen new links with regions, but more important has been the informal links - chatting in IRC, etc. Our chat channel is quite cosmopolitan, usually there are folks from TWP, TP and other regions chatting on it.

Why do you believe the NPA suffers so badly in membership, and could you have done more to help improve that?
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Since we left the ADN, really, the NPA has lacked a sense of purpose and raison d'etre, which may contribute to a lack of numbers. This term they have been involved in a number of defensive missions but, yes, lack of numbers inevitably mutes such efforts - although I believe we have been successful more often than not.

Perhaps I could turn the question round. I have not joined the NPA because my wife needed our UN membership to be delegate of a region. If I had UN I would be in the NPA. Why have you not joined the NPA? Perhaps in ansewering that we may see why others have not joined either.

QUOTE (flemingovia @ Apr 7 2006, 06:32 AM)
plus, we are now in the longest period of stability and peace in The North Pacific most folks: certainly the longest period since before the Great Bight era. the fact that Hers and I were able to do an April Fool joke about us becoming a franchise of LWU without folks immediately lighting the torches speaks volumes about the stability of the region: A year ago that would have been unthinkable.


Do you believe the above quote has anything to do with your term and if so, could you please expand on why?
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Many here now cannot remember the time, but there was a period in our regional life when there were regualar threats of real-life litigation, when impeachment procedings were regular, and our forums attracted like flies every wankerite in NS who just enjoyed a good punch-up.

In those days, an April fool joke such as that would have been unthinkable. It is a tribute to recent successive governments, starting with Tresville and Poltsamaa, that we live in slightly more relaxed times. We are close to a year of democracy, a year of stability. I do not count that as an achievement of my term, I count it as an achievement of the region.
 
Just letting folks know I will be completely AFK tomorrow (Tuesday) and at the weekend due to RL meetings and a weekend conference.

Please join me in calling down the curse of a thousand camel fleas on whoever's bright idea it was to have a work conference on a bank holiday weekend.

:eyebrow: :mad:
 
hmmm. Who to vote for for Prime Minister. Let me think for a bit.

Tricky one, that. I Will need some time to consider the merits of each candidate.
 
Could be worse, nice paddle on the beach, wander in the... umm, pavilion I think...

*runs out of stuff he knows is in Brighton*
 
yeah. Except I am goign to be sitting in a bloody conference hall with 500 other people who also wish they were at home with their families on bank holiday weekend.

And when I said "Time off in lieu?" my bosses just looked at me blankly.
 
yeah, it is one of the features of the region that there are folks who pop up, or pop back, or whose activity increase, at election time.

Funny, isn't it. :P
 
flemingovia:
yeah, it is one of the features of the region that there are folks who pop up, or pop back, or whose activity increase, at election time.

Funny, isn't it. :P
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I was just thinking exactly that. :ADN:


Needless to say, if you were ruler of the universe, what would it be? Pepperoni or anchovies?
 
Do you think you are the coolest administrator on the forumsite?

Have you ever dunked your head in the toilet? If yes, by accident or on purpose?

Have you ever had to spike your own computer or something along the lines?
 
Many here now cannot remember the time, but there was a period in our regional life when there were regualar threats of real-life litigation, when impeachment procedings were regular, and our forums attracted like flies every wankerite in NS who just enjoyed a good punch-up.
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should i take offence? or should someone explain that many of those where started after the then-government accidentaly posted an IRC transcript of how they were planning on destroying certain forum members?

is wankerite a word?
 
"Wankerite" is indeed a word. It refers to those who bung a puppet in every region who lie doggo until there is turmoil in the region. Then they pop up, blathering forth and wading in, and when their right to do so is challenged, they whine "I am a native too; I have been in this region since 1789."

People who do this are "Wankerites".

By the way, doggo and Blathering are also words.

Should you take offence? I do not recall you ever threatening to call your real-life lawyers or sue anyone, so probably you should not. And the threats of litigation began long before the publication of any IRC transcripts, IIRC.
 
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