Changing the flag is a pretty major endeavor, and while I like the new design more than the current one, I think this sort of process needs more input from the region at large and more time than it's been given so far.
I also have a minor issue with the design. As it currently stands, they're is no clearly defined bottom edge, and so on a white background with no border, the white spaces at the bottom of the flag would be open into the background. On a piece of cloth, this would not be an issue, but since this will be almost exclusively for digital use, I think we should be optimising for all contexts. This could be resolved by putting a thin border around the design, or possibly by filling in the white space at the bottom with blue.
Edit: we could also think about replacing the white waves with gray, beige, or gold.
The white bottom was indeed an issue I had with this design, and no matter what I did I couldn't find a solution that looked good while matching the design and proportions of the escutcheon. I'll try and come up with a few more designs - I very much appreciate the constructive feedback here.
I find myself in complete agreement with
@Crushing Our Enemies . I would strongly urge an onsite poll be used to gauge the opinion of all nations in the region, after first addressing the concern about the lower border.
I will confess that I am attached to the continuity of the three stripe flag, but if the region as polled clearly agrees with this change, I will support it in this Assembly.
This could potentially be arranged with the next government, but it is worth noting that I refuse not to put a bill forward due to the simple fact that I propose it as a private citizen, and thus would be flat out incapable of a formal poll. If I can't work out a poll with the next government, I will continue to work with the body I can poll - the RA.
I will do whatever I can, however, to make a formal poll from the region as a whole.
The simple answer is to remove the CoA and keep the three-stripe background: This simultaneously fixes the CoA misuse issue, addresses vexillological concerns, and preserves the tradition of the three-stripe flag. But I know I am in the minority (only one?) of people who appreciate the resulting simple yet elegant design
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I do agree with COE and Eluvatar that the new design would benefit from having an extra blue stripe at the bottom, to create a visible edge. It is also worth noting that the CoA itself ends on a blue stripe and not a white one. So, adding the bottom blue stripe to the proposed flag design would make it not only more practical, but also more in line with the CoA.
There is no way that I currently know of to have a horizontal, rectangular flag that has all the stripes and proportions of the escutcheon intact. The escutcheon is mainly vertical in its proportions, and having all the stripes present would result in a disproportionately tiny north star design or significant negative space.
I am willing to work further on this, however, but I sincerely doubt that I'd be able to make something that wouldn't introduce some other issue with the design.
Totally against. There's 650 NPA puppets that would have to be changed and the last time I did anything with all of them at once I almost got DOSed
Then... don't? Absolutely nothing requires all NPA soldiers to have all their puppets fly the current flag. Voting against simply because you feel, for some reason,
obligated to change all your flags is a result of a misconception on your part. Either change your puppet's flags one at a time for ops, as you use them, or simply elect not to change your flags at all.
I disagree with changing the flag on principle. We already did it once a few years ago based on some arbitrary objection regarding the rule of tincture. Perhaps we shall change it again based on some other piece of pedantry someone else comes up with in a few years' time.
This isn't a change on principle. You are free to actually read my proposal, if you wish.
SillyString has the new flag as her avatar, and it has the white bottom. I don't think it looks particularly bad that way, can we confirm that is the same flag and would display similarly if it was applied to the region as a whole? If it is and it does, would that allay those concerns?
Do you mean on her nation,
SillyString? That is the proposed flag, yes. I've also posted a preview of how the flag would look on the regional page here:
By the power of Chrome's console, I present to you how the region page would look with the above proposed flag.
