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Syrixia

Syrixia

The one, the true, the great.
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Syrixia
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(Made a new thread so I can edit the OP. It seems "0" is not a viable title. Disregard the thread "0".)

Anyway:

It's occurred to me that the transition from 0 BCE to 1 CE in our world is something we need to address. Obviously, the majority of Erasian nations are not Christian; (only Kannex officially I think, though I may be wrong but that's besides the point) so we need to develop some major event that impacted the world so much the calendar revolves around it.

Ideas? Maybe some supervolcano erupted or something?

(EDIT: And now it seems I doublemade the new thread by accident. Sorry for the accidental threadmaking.)
 
Thanks. :) Now we can focus on the point made in this thread 'n talk about it.
 
Well in Wolfsea's case our Age of the Dragon (BC) ended when the Etrebean civilisation fell due to a plague. Just a suggestion that there could have been a plague or similar Black Death level scenario
 
Imperium already defines that year as the death of the first Imperator. I'm up for his death coinciding with or resulting from a plague, or something along those lines.
 
In my nation (Kalti), the year 0 is referred to as 0 C.R.D., what most others would call 0 B.C.E. / 0 C.E.. Below, I've pulled the relevant information from my nation's historical timeline:
The 'Comhaontú na dTreabh' (Pact of the Tribes) is passed which creates the 'Féilire Dhiaga' (Divine Calendar). Ard Banríon Chani I oversees this event to commemorate the 1,000 year anniversary of the Kaltian people settling in the Niamh Archipelago. With the creation of the 'Féilire Dhiaga' (Divine Calendar) by Ard Banríon Chani I and the Tribal Elders; all dates preceding are to be labeled as 'Roimh Ré Dhiaga' (R.R.D.) (Before Divine Era) and all dates following this are to be labeled as 'Ré Dhiaga' (R.D.) (Divine Era). Year Zero (0) is to be known as 'A Chruthú Le Ré Dhiaga' (Creation of a Divine Era).
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Essentially, the 'Comhaontú na dTreabh' (Pact of the Tribes) is a memorial document dedicated to the God and Goddess (Kalti's religion is Wicca) and to recognize the good fortunes and blessings that the Kaltian people had for the last 1,000 years.

Anyways, to clarify how dates are read in my nation...
- 1 R.R.D. > 1 Roimh Ré Dhiaga
- 0 C.R.D. > 0 A Chruthú Le Ré Dhiaga
- 1 R.D. > 1 Ré Dhiaga

Note, the above changes were done for aesthetics and adding a little more variety to my nation's backstory.

Lastly, both Callaici and Tir na Andalucia do have their own events that coincide with Year 0 but with the creation of The Union, both adopted the Kaltian dating system.
 
Syrixia:
Ideas? Maybe some supervolcano erupted or something?
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I have told you once, I have told you twice, I have told you a dozen times. No contemporary super volcano eruptions.

There is a VERY good reason people are so scared of them in the modern era and that is because as I have told you in the past is that even the small ones render large swaths of territory uninhabitable and downright dangerous for centuries if not thousands of years.

We are not talking Pompeii here that killed maybe 4% of the near by inhabitants, we are talking a localized extinction level events where 100% of everyone living within dozens of miles are dead before 1% of the ash has even hit the ground.

In the relatively small Oruanui Eruption, an island over 1,000 kilometers away still received a foot of just ash cover.
 
Lord Lore:
Syrixia:
Ideas? Maybe some supervolcano erupted or something?
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I have told you once, I have told you twice, I have told you a dozen times. No contemporary super volcano eruptions.

There is a VERY good reason people are so scared of them in the modern era and that is because as I have told you in the past is that even the small ones render large swaths of territory uninhabitable and downright dangerous for centuries if not thousands of years.

We are not talking Pompeii here that killed maybe 4% of the near by inhabitants, we are talking a localized extinction level events where 100% of everyone living within dozens of miles are dead before 1% of the ash has even hit the ground.

In the relatively small Oruanui Eruption, an island over 1,000 kilometers away still received a foot of just ash cover.
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But we're cool on the Plague thing right?

Remember Grandfather Nurgle loves us all and shows it through his pestilence.
 
Lord Lore:
Syrixia:
Ideas? Maybe some supervolcano erupted or something?
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I have told you once, I have told you twice, I have told you a dozen times. No contemporary super volcano eruptions.
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Did you read the OP? If such an event were to happen it happened 2,015 years prior to today.

Though I do like the plague idea a bit more. Where would it start, though? What disease would it be; and where would it reach? Perhaps, in places the plague did not reach, they have different calendar systems today?
 
Syrixia that would still mean that the area to this day would be VASTLY underpopulated baring some authoritative population redistribution scheme and infrastructure project a massive circle around the volcano would be uninhabitable until a few centuries prior to the modern era. And while the soil might be very fertile in the beginning it would most likely end with a modern day crop failure because of a lack of ecological stability due to the entire area going through a massive biological reset.

Also I would like to say that marking the beginning of a new age with a plague is a little silly at best. Epochal events that calendars are based on are supposed to hold cultural significance.

The Death of the Buddha in 0 BE (544 BCE), Birth of Jesus in 1 BCE (There was no 0 BCE it goes 1 BCE to 1 CE), the emigration of Muhammad to Medina in 1 H (622 CE).

I say we each use our own calendar system if we want and have the BCE/CE calendar as a silent unexplained calendar of common denomination agreed upon on as a reference point.
 
Lord Lore:
I say we each use our own calendar system if we want and have the BCE/CE calendar as a silent unexplained calendar of common denomination agreed upon on as a reference point.
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Perhaps, though I think we should have a sort of IC convention where we formalize the Time Zones and create a kind of de jure world calendar to be used by international organizations, etc etc. Nations will still be able to use their own calendars in conjunction with the international one, though.
 
I'm perfectly fine with the hand-waving notion of saying that the Gregorian calendar is the de-facto standard calendar in use by all nations of The North Pacific unless they specify otherwise. At least... that's how I've always viewed the rest of you guys when I mention dates during a role play scenario.

Also, I thought the Time Zones were already standardized by Nierr and the rest of the cartography team...
Edit: Yes, the Cartopgrahy Team already made a standard Time Zone map that can be seen here. It needs to be updated but there is one around.

Edit 2: I agree with Lore... the mark of a new age should begin with a significant cultural event. If you browse through the history I've written of my nation, it is broken down into three ages with the calendar system being derived 1,000 years on after the initial settling down of the population and each age starting with a major change in the Kaltian society.
 
I don't see the need for a standardised calendar to be honest. Our RP is not linear, as much as some seem to want to make it go by the days and weeks of the IRL calendar.
 
Lord Lore:
Syrixia that would still mean that the area to this day would be VASTLY underpopulated baring some authoritative population redistribution scheme and infrastructure project a massive circle around the volcano would be uninhabitable until a few centuries prior to the modern era. And while the soil might be very fertile in the beginning it would most likely end with a modern day crop failure because of a lack of ecological stability due to the entire area going through a massive biological reset.

Also I would like to say that marking the beginning of a new age with a plague is a little silly at best. Epochal events that calendars are based on are supposed to hold cultural significance.

The Death of the Buddha in 0 BE (544 BCE), Birth of Jesus in 1 BCE (There was no 0 BCE it goes 1 BCE to 1 CE), the emigration of Muhammad to Medina in 1 H (622 CE).

I say we each use our own calendar system if we want and have the BCE/CE calendar as a silent unexplained calendar of common denomination agreed upon on as a reference point.
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To be fair, using my own case as an example, the plague effectively knackered civilization to the point it brought about a dark age (people deserting cities, turning to brigandry to survive, the sleazy corrupt senators deciding to ditch everyone else for their country villas and being preyed upon by the aforementioned Brigands, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria. That sort of thing.) Bit extreme but there is logic behind it.

(Just a sidenote, Wolfsea and Etrebea worship Death and Entropy so it does make sense for them to hold such an event as significant, also I need to write in a plague god.)
 
Nierr:
I don't see the need for a standardised calendar to be honest. Our RP is not linear, as much as some seem to want to make it go by the days and weeks of the IRL calendar.
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This.

I don't think it really matters that much, especially, as was noted, that our RP is not linear. It's not something that really comes up as an issue for our RP's, so I don't see a need to worry over it.
 
Funkadelia:
Nierr:
I don't see the need for a standardised calendar to be honest. Our RP is not linear, as much as some seem to want to make it go by the days and weeks of the IRL calendar.
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This.

I don't think it really matters that much, especially, as was noted, that our RP is not linear. It's not something that really comes up as an issue for our RP's, so I don't see a need to worry over it.
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Very true.
 
Perhaps the nations who use the Gregorian Calendar could be part of an international transcalendar organization that uses the calendar?
 
Just sayin' but the Kaltians don't use the Gregorian calendar or even know what that name refers to. In character while role playing, the nation of Kalti and its population use the Divine Calendar which was created as a dedication to the God and Goddess and a reform of the calendar that came before, the Ar Ard Calendar. Out of character, the Divine Calendar (and in turn the Ar Ard Calendar) are both modeled on the real life Gregorian and Julian calendar more for the sake of clarity and sanity when writing out dates.

Edit: I'm not entirely against a universal system but it just seems to make things more convoluted than need be. General hand-waving and assumption on the use of the Gregorian calendar unless stated otherwise seems a better path.
 
Sadakoyama's national calendar starts with the landing of the Engralius. I contemplated basing our calendars on the base 20 Mesoamerican 260/365 calendars, but I didn't want to do that kind of math.
 
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