A Incorporated Organised Territory of The United States of New Sekai?

Mr Insanity

Mr Insanity

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I'm planning to have The United States of New Sekai having a small incorporated organised territory in The Clatania Continent. I'm going to this in the past not the present time somewhere between 1700 - 1800. However, The United States of New Sekai acquired the territory in the 1781.

(I been honestly here, the reason I'm doing this in the past because I don't want to ruined The United States of New Sekai's international relationships and I want to have The United States of New Sekai in The Community of Caltanian Countries. Plus, I want to expand my nations aswell.)

Anyway, that it for now. If you want your nation to get involve with this then post on this topic, or want to help me out with this again then post on this topic.
 
This is what I was afraid of. Just because the CCC formed does not mean nations should place colonies there as a scapegoat to join the CCC. If New Sekai wants to form another organization for its own continent, that'd be fine, but I strongly oppose anyone placing continents on Caltania just to join the CCC. Freaking ridiculous.
 
Syrixia:
This is what I was afraid of. Just because the CCC formed does not mean nations should place colonies there as a scapegoat to join the CCC. If New Sekai wants to form another organization for its own continent, that'd be fine, but I strongly oppose anyone placing continents on Caltania just to join the CCC. Freaking ridiculous.
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That isn't the only reason, I have seen lot of nations who is role playing in this forum have expanded the nations/empire or whatever you call it. I possible should said that aswell the reason, I want to expand my nation/empire again or whatever you call it.
 
Syrixia:
This is what I was afraid of. Just because the CCC formed does not mean nations should place colonies there as a scapegoat to join the CCC. If New Sekai wants to form another organization for its own continent, that'd be fine, but I strongly oppose anyone placing continents on Caltania just to join the CCC. Freaking ridiculous.
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Aw, you're just saying that 'cause you're terrified of what I'd get up to with a colony on your continent. :P
 
Nebula:
Syrixia:
This is what I was afraid of. Just because the CCC formed does not mean nations should place colonies there as a scapegoat to join the CCC. If New Sekai wants to form another organization for its own continent, that'd be fine, but I strongly oppose anyone placing continents on Caltania just to join the CCC. Freaking ridiculous.
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Aw, you're just saying that 'cause you're terrified of what I'd get up to with a colony on your continent. :P
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If it is that but I think Syrixia also annoyed with my nation being neutral all the time and keep joining international organisation or something similar to that.
 
I don't remember who it was, but someone wrote a post on how colonialism in the modern day is out of place and outmoded. If you want to expand, please find a good location and give a good reason. Caltania is far from New Sekai, so a colony there would be very hard to administer unless you were very, very powerful back in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries. I have yet to see such a backstory.

EDIT: No, Nebs, not at all. With a nation as expansionist as yours, I doubt it would be hard for Nebula to place a colony on Caltania in the colonial era. Though, I will say, it will increase tensions.
 
Syrixia, that sounds like something I might say... hell it might have been me. Anyways, I always stand by my stance that so long as the backstory makes sense and is relatively realistic, I really don't care where people put their colonies.

And I'd like to point out that Kalti had a trading post city in Callaici (which is quite a ways away) for centuries, long before the country became a part of the Confederation.
 
Syrixia:
No, Nebs, not at all. With a nation as expansionist as yours, I doubt it would be hard for Nebula to place a colony on Caltania in the colonial era. Though, I will say, it will increase tensions.
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*grins, showing too many teeth*

I believe there's a very nice island off the coast called Shei Ren that, conveniently enough, I happen to already have quite a foothold in.
 
From the border between the two parts of New Sekai to the middle of the continent in discussion is 3135 pixels. At present map scale that is a distance of around 12,000 km from the middle of New Sekai to the middle of that continent.

That's only a little further than the distance between the United Kingdom and New Zealand, and any colony would, I imagine, be in the far north of that continent, so it would be even closer.
 
This is the problem with all these small alliances that keep popping up. It is not in the national interest to be involved in _every_ single Alliance that forms. Syrixia is completely right. It is not necessary to form a colony just so your nation can be a member of every alliance. Being in every single alliance is not a good thing, it is a bad thing.

Not only that, the small alliances take activity away from the larger ones that could be more effective. I think people need to be more selective about what alliances they are involved in and which ones they give time to. We're going to end up looking like pre-Word War I europe with all these alliances between nations that intersect and divide what can/cannot be considered an ally or an enemy. Either that or we will all end up as neutral nations with no ability to condemn another nation for their 'evil' acts.

I am /against/ unnecessary colonies unless they are really relevant to a given Role Play or to the history of two or so nations. We cannot and should not accept Nations having any more than one small colony in today's world. If you want to have more colonies in your historical period then work that in with other nations, as I have done with Anola and with Archegnum.
 
Syrixia:
I don't remember who it was, but someone wrote a post on how colonialism in the modern day is out of place and outmoded. If you want to expand, please find a good location and give a good reason. Caltania is far from New Sekai, so a colony there would be very hard to administer unless you were very, very powerful back in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries. I have yet to see such a backstory.

EDIT: No, Nebs, not at all. With a nation as expansionist as yours, I doubt it would be hard for Nebula to place a colony on Caltania in the colonial era. Though, I will say, it will increase tensions.
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Alright then. I would said The United States of New Sekai is very, very powerful in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries because I mostly basing The United States of New Sekai with The United States of America, with bit of Japan and United Kingdom. Also, read The United States of New Sekai's factbooks, I have update some of them.

Anyway, I will write a draft of the backstory of how The United States of New Sekai found the colony in this thread before I posted in National RolePlay's folder.

Aswell, it was a colony in the past, now is a unincorporated organised territory. (Sorry, I misspelled as incorporated not unincorporated.)

An unincorporated organised territory in Jumin No Kushos law is an area controlled by The United States of New Sekai's government "where fundamental rights apply as a matter of law, but other constitutional rights are not available". Selected constitutional provisions variously apply depending on Ichiinseional Organic Acts and judicial rulings according to U.S.O.N.S. constitutional practice, local traditional and law.
 
mcmasterdonia:
This is the problem with all these small alliances that keep popping up. It is not in the national interest to be involved in _every_ single Alliance that forms. Syrixia is completely right. It is not necessary to form a colony just so your nation can be a member of every alliance. Being in every single alliance is not a good thing, it is a bad thing.

Not only that, the small alliances take activity away from the larger ones that could be more effective. I think people need to be more selective about what alliances they are involved in and which ones they give time to. We're going to end up looking like pre-Word War I europe with all these alliances between nations that intersect and divide what can/cannot be considered an ally or an enemy. Either that or we will all end up as neutral nations with no ability to condemn another nation for their 'evil' acts.

I am /against/ unnecessary colonies unless they are really relevant to a given Role Play or to the history of two or so nations. We cannot and should not accept Nations having any more than one small colony in today's world. If you want to have more colonies in your historical period then work that in with other nations, as I have done with Anola and with Archegnum.
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I know. However, right now The United States of New Sekai is complete being always neutral recently to what unknown point. However, I more working on The history of The United States of New Sekai and with other nations. The United States of New Sekai past is particularly mostly right-wing/far-right/radical right, however The United States of New Sekai mostly have international relationships with right-wing/far-right/radical right nations. The United States of New Sekai is now mostly left-wing/far-left/radical left, however center with international relations.

I'm possible have The United States of New Sekai working with The Intergalactic Planetary of The Watching Nebula and maybe with other nations to capture this colony?
 
I'm clinging to Shei Ren, but I'll gladly help you with your plan, as we are allies, and I only want a small area just in case Syrixia tries to kick me out of Shei Ren.
 
Given our history the Imperial Military Khanate of the Kingdom of Wolfsea will take no part in colonial expansionism. Unless such a proposal would be to establish a self-governing dependency alongside other nations.

(think similar to Nimbus III in Star Trek only not a sandy ringhole in the middle of sod-allsville.)
 
Hmmm. Syrixia isn't gonna give up Shei Ren without a fight. Military force will be needed to snag a foothold on the continent.
 
Nebula:
I'm clinging to Shei Ren, but I'll gladly help you with your plan, as we are allies, and I only want a small area just in case Syrixia tries to kick me out of Shei Ren.
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Yeah I'm alright with that.
 
Wolfsea:
Given our history the Imperial Military Khanate of the Kingdom of Wolfsea will take no part in colonial expansionism. Unless such a proposal would be to establish a self-governing dependency alongside other nations.

(think similar to Nimbus III in Star Trek only not a sandy ringhole in the middle of sod-allsville.)
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I possible, I have The United States of New Sekai dependence 1/2 for the territory and The Watching Nebula owning/dependence 1/2 of/for the territory.
 
Nebula:
Hmmm. Syrixia isn't gonna give up Shei Ren without a fight. Military force will be needed to snag a foothold on the continent.
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I bit against using military force against Syrixia and/or in Shei Ren. However, I'm giving you the half of the territory.
 
Myroria:
Nebula:
Hmmm. Syrixia isn't gonna give up Shei Ren without a fight. Military force will be needed to snag a foothold on the continent.
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Use of military force brings consequences.
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Consequences which include:

-Embargo
-Possible Blockade
-NPTO Intervention
-Possible Condemnation

You will not, under Syrixia's watch, have any presence on Caltania. This, I swear.
 
Nebula:
Syrixia:
You will not, under Syrixia's watch, have any presence on Caltania. This, I swear.
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Honestly, I'm getting sick of you getting your way in RPs all the time.
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If you want to get your way as well, make Nebula stop being Stalin and start being Einstein. Expansionism will only be met with fierce condemnation.
 
Nebula:
There's a difference between expansionism and holding on to what you already have.
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It was never supposed to be yours long-term. It was supposed to be a plot device for the Missile Crisis, and after the Great War it was supposed to become an independent state.
 
I'm not going to jump into your rp or anything waving around a big purple dick, but seriously?

Between the two of you you're:
1. Assassinating someone at a diplomatic conference.
and
2. Brining weapons to a diplomatic conference?

Are you fucking kidding me? Like are you serious right now?

You know why you don't see shit like this going on at diplomatic conferences in the real world? Because that shit has consequences.

And I'm telling you now, do this, and ICly and OOCly, I'm going to hit both of you like a ton of fucking bricks.

Shape the fuck up.
 
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