The Communist Revolution: OOC

Syrixia

Syrixia

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Syrixia
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From 1945 to 1947, a two-year, four-way Civil War raged in Syrixia between the Empire, the Narsheviks (the communists), the Blue Movement (the pro-democracy rebels), and various groups of anarchists. The Communists eventually won out over the other factions, and murdered the entire Imperial family. I was wondering, if, at some point, we could do a roleplay on this. I think it would be interesting to explore the nations of Eve in the mid-20th century, when nations were similar to today but most alliances were different and the main powers were different nations. Plus, it would help shed light on an important (at least to Syrixia) war in history, as a two-thousand year old empire, one that was one of the world's great powers for a long time, was destroyed from within.

Thoughts and discussions?
 
Nebula was at this point more hard-line socialist. We probably would have been a developing nation sending limited aid to the communists.
 
The Narsheviks? Is that legit Russian?

For much of the mid-20th century, Kannex was under various military dictators while the Kaiser was powerless. (The Kaiser still is powerless, although now Kannex is more democratic.) Most likely Kannex will be anti-communist, but I do recall one of my junta leaders was a socialist.
 
"Narshevik" is a cross between "Bolshevik" and the prefix "Nar", which was created so the Narsheviks sounded more aggressive.
 
Why does your history have to deliberately mimic RL history? At least change the name so no one notices...

Plembobria would have offered asylum to the royals, but they never made it did they?
 
Instead of Bolsheviks and Mensheviks, you are going to have the Brosheviks and the Meowsheviks. Got it? Good.
 
plembobria:
Plembobria would have offered asylum to the royals, but they never made it did they?
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A few did; the Prince of Manaan/the Emperor's nephew, James Zor, and his family; his wife and his two daughters.
 
I would be interested in hearing what McM has to think and/or if he'd get involved, seeing as the Emperor's wife is an McMasterdonian.
 
I think I could get involved in this, though I'm waiting for Eumenor to post so I can start the economic crisis stuff.

I'm not sure if we would need to RP the whole civil war, what I would suggest, perhaps, is that the last push by the rebels against the monarchy was a complete surprise. As such, McMastedonia had not thought they needed to send support, and it was presumed the monarchy would hold easily. This is why the Emperor, Empress, and their family were murdered so quickly and suddenly, and the effect of that rather brutal death was felt by other monarchs around the world as they grappled with liberalizing efforts at home.

I could likely RP as the Empress, who was McMasterdonian, and possibly after that RP something about the Mcmasterdonian government at the time discussing the crisis.
 
That sounds kind of cool. We could make it dramatic, call it "The Fall of the Empire".
 
Yeah, so it would focus on the end of the war. Perhaps you could open with a rather long summary of the events that had occured leading up to the final part. Say the war is going relatively well, and that the Emperor is confident in success. That the Empress has been visiting parts of the city and helping the wounded. Morale is high in the royalist camp, etc.
 
mcmasterdonia:
Yeah, so it would focus on the end of the war. Perhaps you could open with a rather long summary of the events that had occured leading up to the final part. Say the war is going relatively well, and that the Emperor is confident in success. That the Empress has been visiting parts of the city and helping the wounded. Morale is high in the royalist camp, etc.
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Alright.
 
The reason I haven't started this yet is because I'm in the process of making one of those mapping videos. It's gonna be around 5-7 minutes long and it's about the Syrixian Civil War in its entirety. I'll be uploading it to YouTube and putting a link on the IC thread if you want to see it. We're gonna use it as a basis for the RP. The RP itself, meanwhile, will only focus on the war's end.
 
The Russian Republic was founded in a revolution dominated by Socialists, and its dominant political philosophy to this day is of striving for the ultimate goal of communism.

If you're interested, there could be volunteers for the revolutionary socialist side from Zemnaya Svoboda.
 
Zemnaya Svoboda:
The Russian Republic was founded in a revolution dominated by Socialists, and its dominant political philosophy to this day is of striving for the ultimate goal of communism.

If you're interested, there could be volunteers for the revolutionary socialist side from Zemnaya Svoboda.
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Perhaps, but they'd only be able to come in during the start of the Second Push for Abujei, as that would help explain the sudden meteoric rebirth of the communist movement following its defeat at Yana and the conquest of the Empire.
 
Control of the capital often translates to partial control of the countryside in the short term.

Naval warfare does not work like that D:

Little tongues of attack, leaving the rest of the front unmolested, is not how armies fight in the post-WWI era. Or really before that, either.

Why... why would they kill the Imperial Family after winning the civil war?
 
That's what Lenin did. That's what Robespierre did. That's what almost any sensible incoming tyrant does to ensure control.
 
Well, both committed regicide in the midst of the war, not after. The French radicals (their name escapes me at the moment) executed the Louis XVI because they though he was rallying French noble expats against the Republic. Similarly the reds didn't want the whites to make the czar into their rallying point.
 
Kannex:
Similarly the reds didn't want the whites to make the czar into their rallying point.
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Tsar.

Also why would they? The February Revolution happened. I doubt the Whites would rally under the Tsar.
 
Czar and tsar are both accepted spellings. Czar is the more conventional one, hence you will hear in English of "oil czars", etc.

The White camp encompassed all anti-Red forces, including monarchists. The Provisional Government was not the only White force.
 
May I remind you also that the Bastille was stormed in 1789, that a revolutionary government had taken power by 1790, and that King Louis was not executed until 1792?
 
Nebula:
May I remind you also that the Bastille was stormed in 1789, that a revolutionary government had taken power by 1790, and that King Louis was not executed until 1792?
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Are you aware that just about every other West European country thereafter declared or threatened war on France? The Revolutionary Wars lasted much longer than the takeover itself. Read your history before you go around quizzing folks.
 
In both cases, the monarchs were killed during the war, because both were suspected of aiding the enemy, whether that were the French aristocratic expats or the White Army.
 
How is a historical discussion based solely on when the Emperor was killed, which is one detail out of many, relevant? Why don't we plan the RP?
 
No, the Bolsheviks were worried that the czar and his family, imprisoned in Yekaterinburg, would be rescued by advancing Czechoslovak troops, not that they were aiding them.
 
I'll get the higher authority here. The Bolsheviks were afraid that the tsar could aid the Whites.

Wikipedia:
The Bolsheviks had wanted to bring the tsar to trial, but circumstances led to a quick decision to kill the whole family.[11] The Romanovs were being held by the Red Army in Yekaterinburg. As the civil war continued and the White Army (a loose alliance of anti-Communist forces) was threatening to capture the city, the fear was that the Romanovs would fall into White hands. This was unacceptable to the Bolsheviks for two reasons: first, the tsar or any of his family members could provide a beacon to rally support to the White cause; second, the tsar, or any of his family members if the tsar were dead, would be considered the legitimate ruler of Russia by the other European nations. This would have meant the ability to negotiate for greater foreign intervention on behalf of the Whites. Soon after the family was executed, the city fell to the White Army.
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Right. They were worried they could end up aiding the enemy. That is not what you said before:


Kannex:
In both cases, the monarchs were killed during the war, because both were suspected of aiding the enemy, whether that were the French aristocratic expats or the White Army.
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Nebula:
No, the Bolsheviks were worried that the czar and his family, imprisoned in Yekaterinburg, would be rescued by advancing Czechoslovak troops, not that they were aiding them.
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AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!
 
Nebula:
Right. They were worried they could end up aiding the enemy. That is not what you said before:


Kannex:
In both cases, the monarchs were killed during the war, because both were suspected of aiding the enemy, whether that were the French aristocratic expats or the White Army.
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You know what I mean.
 
Syrixia:
Nebula:
No, the Bolsheviks were worried that the czar and his family, imprisoned in Yekaterinburg, would be rescued by advancing Czechoslovak troops, not that they were aiding them.
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AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!
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What?

Kannex:
Nebula:
Right. They were worried they could end up aiding the enemy. That is not what you said before:


Kannex:
In both cases, the monarchs were killed during the war, because both were suspected of aiding the enemy, whether that were the French aristocratic expats or the White Army.
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You know what I mean.
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Yes, but I didn't know what you meant then.
 
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