Past RP [2]

Johanness

TNPer
Past RP
Since the other one was ignored

A few points:
  • This Past RP will be different. Instead, it will go from the ancient times of TNP to modern times (around the time of the start of the TNP Cold war)
  • This will be actually put on our factbooks to show this did happen. Most factbooks just have their friend nations on it with a very short history. But instead, I want different nations of different cultures to join in with complex history.
  • You will have to be creative, and you have to go change characters in each year. Like in the middle ages, you would be realistically a racist, religious, king that ruled over everything and only had to care about the barons.
  • Please include other nations in your factbooks

    So what is this all about?
    The RP, first of all will start in the ancient times, starting in the 1st century to the 19th century. The point of this is to show that our countries aren't just nations that claimed independence and all of a sudden became a global superpower.
    Everyone must be included, and the RP, like most other ones won't just last 10 minutes long and come to an end. It needs to be long and not rushed.

    Who's with me here?

    BTW, please don't rush into the RP straight away. Either me or a good Roleplayer will direct it.

 
If I may, I would like to give some constructive criticism.

1. You did not need to create a new thread.

2. No. I can change or keep my characters whenever I want to. Same for everyone else.

3. You do not get to say how this RP goes AT ALL. It is a collaboration.

4. We've already RPed the recent past- in the past. This should only be far past, like in the 17th and 18th centuries.
 
Syrixia:
far past, like in the 17th and 18th centuries.
:lol:

Well, to be fair, Kannex didn't exist during the Romans and neither did the United States of America. So truly far past wouldn't work.
 
Far past could work if you RPed what was in the area that now makes up Kannex, but obviously you don't have to, as no one is forced to join RPs. Certainly, Nierr also didn't exist in this time and I would not want to RP what did, as the land that makes up both Nierr and Ghis Town belonged to another nation.
 
Jumping all the way back to the 1st century would be a problem for a number of nations as they're newer. You might not get a lot of takers on super early history. Even an sort of older nation such as mine only goes back to 966. It's possible for me to go back further than 966 if I got around to fleshing out the 10 kingdoms that founded Ceretis, but that would mean having to finish creating characters and background suddenly for all 10 kingdoms and the Foxek.

I like the idea of getting in the way back machine though. Anything earlier than the 10th century and I'd need time to cobble something together.
 
Syrixia:
If I may, I would like to give some constructive criticism.

1. You did not need to create a new thread.

2. No. I can change or keep my characters whenever I want to. Same for everyone else.

3. You do not get to say how this RP goes AT ALL. It is a collaboration.

4. We've already RPed the recent past- in the past. This should only be far past, like in the 17th and 18th centuries.
Sigh.

[1] Whats the problem in that?
[2] Since you aren't even participating in it you can't really say anything
[3] This RP is not really public were anyone can jump in and come. I'm only doing it to make the RP more interesting
[4] For a grand total of 10 minutes basically full of war. Gg.
 
Why don't we then 'make up' nations in the early history then, considering TNP has to change throughout time, like Europe did.
 
Sytarenne:
Syrixia:
If I may, I would like to give some constructive criticism.

1. You did not need to create a new thread.

2. No. I can change or keep my characters whenever I want to. Same for everyone else.

3. You do not get to say how this RP goes AT ALL. It is a collaboration.

4. We've already RPed the recent past- in the past. This should only be far past, like in the 17th and 18th centuries.
Sigh.

[1] Whats the problem in that?
[2] Since you aren't even participating in it you can't really say anything
[3] This RP is not really public were anyone can jump in and come. I'm only doing it to make the RP more interesting
[4] For a grand total of 10 minutes basically full of war. Gg.
Well, generally the admins hate that sort of proliferation.
 
Sytarenne:
Syrixia:
If I may, I would like to give some constructive criticism.

1. You did not need to create a new thread.

2. No. I can change or keep my characters whenever I want to. Same for everyone else.

3. You do not get to say how this RP goes AT ALL. It is a collaboration.

4. We've already RPed the recent past- in the past. This should only be far past, like in the 17th and 18th centuries.
Sigh.

[1] Whats the problem in that?
[2] Since you aren't even participating in it you can't really say anything
[3] This RP is not really public were anyone can jump in and come. I'm only doing it to make the RP more interesting
[4] For a grand total of 10 minutes basically full of war. Gg.
1. It's useless.

2. Yes I AM.

3. Then your RP is not only rudely exclusive but also bad.

4. There is more to RP than war. This isn't the Past War RP, it's the Past RP. There is also politics, resource gathering, colonization and building to think about.

And I DID NOT SAY 1ST CENTURY. I SAID 17TH OR 18TH CENTURIES. Not all nations in this region didn't exist back then. Some did, in one form or another. And as Nierr said, good RPers ADAPT to the setting and storyline. If your nation doesn't exist, RP what's there during that time.
 
I'm not sure I want to RP the equivalent of Native Americans. Sure, I'll say that the indigenous peoples of America have interesting and rich histories, but it doesn't really interest me much. I could use the conlangs I've made as indigenous langs, but frankly I'd just rather stick with the Germanic America-ish Kannex.
 
Just pointing out information, not attacking:
The problem with creating numerous new threads is that it clogs up the forum making it difficult to find other stories threads; and too many threads for this one would make it a nightmare to find information
Sytarenne:
You will have to be creative, and you have to go change characters in each year. Like in the middle ages, you would be realistically a racist, religious, king that ruled over everything and only had to care about the barons.
1] New characters each year or each era/segment?
2] There were governments other than kingdoms through history and the middle ages (republics, democracies, etc), monarchies/aristocracies were just the most prevalent.
3] Kings had to worry about the population if they wanted to not get killed by mobs. (Middle ages had peasant uprisings due to this.)
4] Realistically a racist? I'm not so sure that would be the case in all or most cases.

Reading direct sources and historic sources not tainted by eugenicists; it appears people were mostly divided along sectarian, ethnic, and ideological NOT racial lines. Though attributing characteristics to physical attributes at times, they still operated within their 'group' or those groups they were close with ethnically or ideologically. That's generally the western perspective and even some eastern perspective.

Some middle eastern perspectives tend to class everyone not of race or ethnicity, but somewhat more in ideology including division by religion.

Psychologically people generate 'groups' which unless they're particularly racially charged also tends to include other races. These groups form mostly from ethnicity / ideology / etc similarities and may work with other similar groups to achieve goals against a common problem/threat or other sectarian/ethnic group(s.)
Syrixia:
3. You do not get to say how this RP goes AT ALL. It is a collaboration.
Sytarenne:
[3] This RP is not really public were anyone can jump in and come. I'm only doing it to make the RP more interesting
If this is not open to the TNP RP community than there would be little point to the exercise. People having time for an RP restricts the number, The timeline restricts the number, the exclusivity restricts the number, and if the RP is highly moderated and not collaborative then this might have almost no one participating. The entire situation could almost be conducted in PM or depending on how 'moderated,' be written by the moderator then published on the factbook(s).
Collaboration allows for good stories, moderation leads to good stories; No collaboration = one person's story, over moderation = one person's story. Consider restricting entry to require new participants accept rules / etc through the OOC thread before posting.
Sytarenne:
[4] For a grand total of 10 minutes basically full of war. Gg.
Syrixia:
4. There is more to RP than war. This isn't the Past War RP, it's the Past RP. There is also politics, resource gathering, colonization and building to think about.
I think you're both standing on the same side here yelling at the wind. Sytarenne is saying there is more to RP than things like the war that was recently RP'd (meaning politics, colonization, etc.) He's also complaining that the RP started in a flash and ended in a flash; and its contents were basically RP war for 10 whole minutes. (He used hyperbole.) Syrixia is saying the same thing it seems; there is more to RP than war.

So let's make something that isn't war and doesn't devolve instantly into war. War can come later on, but should not be immediate, repetitive, or equal most of the content. It's also possible to have minor 'war' that is between you and a NPC to further a storyline and is more of a skirmish. Like Rome's multiple border skirmishes that were technically war but were not war as most would see them (involving drama and allies, etc.)



We should have collaboration on guidelines and general storyline / events, but allow unplanned sub events, etc. Also, there needs to be some sensitivity on timelines for nations such as Kannex.
 
I'm just putting this out there for information:

If there is an issue with your RP not going how you want it and players are doing things they shouldn't. It is very simple to just tell one of our RP mods and they will handle it. Like Ceretis said, if you begin to restrict things, it dilutes the story and just makes it dull.

That's all. Bootsie out. ;)
 
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