The Takeover of Osship: OOC

The Spokesman of Eumenor

The Spokesman of Eumenor

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OK, I appreciate that some of the RPs created recently in TNP have been of a slightly lower standard than that which may be expected, because of poor planning, excess of godmodding/threadjacking, lack of realism, and slightly lazy writing on the parts of the RPers. I apologise for my part in this.
However, we're going to do this one properly.
The key, I am told, to good RPing is planning, so I have created this thread where all posts should be discussed before they are made in the real thing. No OOC posts on the actual document, please.
But what will we be writing about? Several months ago, Syrixia claimed an exclave next to Eumenor. We are now going to retrospectively justify it with a (hopefully) well planned and cohesive role play.
We would really appreciate the help of the role play mentors. If they could get involved in the RP to increase the quality of writing, and veto the writing of nations such as myself, that would be much appreciated.
I hope we can discuss here the possible reasons why Syrixia could have claimed the exclave, before transferring these ideas to another thread.
Thanks - let's see where this leads!
 
I, personally, am excited to spectate this from the background.

The existence of Osship was rather unjustified during the Map Discussion Thread and had a lot of controversy circling it, this'd be good to end that.
 
I'll be more than happy to lend the aid of Celeste and Sefydliad in helping create a cohesive role play about Osship. Both are intelligence agencies for Kalti (one is military and the other is external).
 
The Spokesman of Eumenor:
I agree, this should end the controversy. Don't worry about sitting this one out, take some tips from it if you will, or jump in if you feel like it.
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I'll take tips and observe, I honestly need to improve my roleplay and literacy skills
 
Of course, I shall help too! In fact, would you mind if I am the OP for the actual RP thread?

And Cronaal, this is coming from the guy who doubted MY RP skills. Don't say that about yourself! You have more creative mojo than most of us have!
 
Syrixia:
Of course, I shall help too! In fact, would you mind if I am the OP for the actual RP thread?

And Cronaal, this is coming from the guy who doubted MY RP skills. Don't say that about yourself! You have more creative mojo than most of us have!
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Yes, but it's limited by realism.
I'd love to make a roleplay about WHY Anchor is off limits but I cannot as it's highly unrealistic.
And imagination isn't everything, I don't describe barely enough. I only set out basis and do go any further.
 
I'd prefer to have an OOC discussion here, Syrixia.

Syrixia:
(OOC: That is not where I wanted this story to go. I've revised my last post. Please revise yours.)
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I see no reason to do so, since my nation's concern is the creation of the enclave itself. My post should have no direct affect on the roleplay, as I was merely expressing how my nation would've disapproved of such an action. I do not intend on getting involved any further in this specific RP unless conditions significantly change.
 
As you asked, Eumenor, here's a summary of what's happened so far:

Major Jay Qaloc is one of the survivors of the Cult of the True God capture operation. He escaped it.

He wanted to spread his faith to more people so the amount of uncaptured people with the extremist faith would grow again.

The Osshipis were primitive technology-wise and they had no religion, so he decided to use his surveying party as a military to get the Osshipis angry and then converted them to the Cult of the True God. He had created the perfect extremists, and he was their leader.

That is, until Syrixian forces captured him and the surveying parties were called back to Syrixia. This means that most of Osship is yet to be surveyed. However, a plane flew to Osship and landed on a flat stretch of land outside Osshivilla.

Minister of Culture and Foreign Affairs Shaw Atlas stepped out of the plane with a bunch of diplomats, since after the Qaloc incident the Syrixian government decided we could just survey Osship later.

Without people to protect him the Grand Poobah was scared but when we presented our terms he was happy again and the remaining people of Osshivilla were too. Things were starting to go well.

However, the extremists, now without a leader, were even angrier and now they wanted to destroy Osshivilla. They marched on Osshivilla, and Syrixian forces were there to stop them. A diplomat, however, came out first just in case.

He was killed. So that's where we are now.
 
Im sorry but you do realize that this RP makes it even less likely that you would have Osship as part of your nation? At least without MAJOR repercussions from other nations like credit freezes, embargoes, if not military intervention.

Cuz I can tell you this, with how this is right now, your ships are never allowed in Andulan Territory and you're never allowed to trade with Andulus.
 
I don't really feel that these are legitimate circumstances for you to take over Osship. I was intending to use this thread to brainstorm so we knew we were going in an acceptable direction before starting the RP. If you can turn this around so that Syrixia can claim Osship in a way that is internationally acceptable, I will be astounded. What is your plan?
 
Read it a bit and I agree. I've discontinued the previous thread and from now on I'm using the drafting plane for all my RPs. No more impatience.

That said, what do you think of the new thread? This time the people of Osship actually need help and the rumor that they need a home is true.

And there's no Qaloc.

(If possible, I would like Scandigrad's criticism on the new thread more than anyone else. I hope he takes a look.)
 
For a start, the title is more promising.
But we must be able to find another more realistic RP setting than the Osshipi wanting needing Syrixia to take them over. That would never happen. Would it be better if Osship was not an inhabited country, but a uninhabited area that Syrixia had some legitimate claim to? Historical land, e.t.c.?
 
Hang on, don't edit anything yet. Let's be concrete on what we're writing BEFORE we start writing it!!! God, Syrixia... :lol:

So why do countries claim more land?
1. They need it for something.
2. They are imperialists.
3. It is rightfully theirs.
4. The people there want it to be claimed.

1&2 are normally frowned on by the international community. "I want this land to have more power in this area of TNP" will just get you called imperialists. Similarly, claiming land for increased wealth and taxes (as well as assets) are not legit reasons.
4 almost never happens. "I want to give up my national identity and be ruled by foreigners!" said no-one ever.
So, unless I've missed a reason (if so, please point it out!) that only leaves us 3 to play with.
 
I looked at it before I hit edit. I think it's pretty good. Check it out! The way I've written it will definitely make this good.

And 3 works. After the Battle of Kolan, I can safely say Osship is rightfully Syrixia's.
 
Yeah, that's better. I like this much more than the last 2. Just a quick correction - I think you mean 'fall' instead of 'call' in paragraph 3. Now let's leave it here for now, and contact Scandigrad and some RP mentors to see if they approve, and if they have any comments to make.
 
The Spokesman of Eumenor:
Your input would be greatly valued, Lord Lore - are there any edits you would recommend? What do you think of the pretence generally?
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Honestly the only thing I can say is that no one would recognize a claim in that place for Osship. There is no possible way that Syrixia could have a legit claim to land that is A.) Remote, B.) Land Locked and C.) Inhabited or Uninhabited. The logic is just not there.

No matter how, if Syrixia claims that random, landlocked piece of land on the other side of the map, it will cause international backlash.
 
Osship is basically a large area of land Syrixia claimed without reason other than it being suggested to claim such.
 
Cronaal:
Osship is basically a large area of land Syrixia claimed without reason other than it being suggested to claim such.
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Cronaal can you please put the images in your signature in either a spoiler or make then smaller and side by side. Its a little annoying when 99% of your post length is just your signature
 
I concur, but this is the piece of land Syrixia has chosen, and I am looking for a way to justify his ownership of it. Syrixia, would you consider moving Osship to the coast? That would help with the realism, and it would give us more angles to justify its annexation if it were on the ocean.
 
The Spokesman of Eumenor:
I concur, but this is the piece of land Syrixia has chosen, and I am looking for a way to justify his ownership of it. Syrixia, would you consider moving Osship to the coast? That would help with the realism, and it would give us more angles to justify its annexation if it were on the ocean.
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Actually withwhat he has said. That is not necessarily the piece he chose just the piece that Alunya plopped on the map.

I would suggest moving it to the water and to a more regular shape instead of what looks like a splash of paint someone threw at a wall.
 
Lord Lore:
No matter how, if Syrixia claims that random, landlocked piece of land on the other side of the map, it will cause international backlash.
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This. To be frank, my nation is likely to object to any kind of enclave that is created outside of a nation's established territory. My nation is not a big fan of nations just randomly claiming land across the region for whatever reason.
 
It's actually not for whatever reason; it's for diplomatic relations w/ Eumenor and easy transport of Syrixians around the region. That said, I think I can work on bringing Osship to the coast.
 
See, neither of those are relevant, particularly in a digital age. There's no reason a nation needs territory adjacent to another country for the sole purpose of diplomatic relations, and transport is a multinational thing, between airlines, ships, and cars. I don't quite understand why your nation would need an enclave for those reasons. That's why my nation interprets those reasons as a facade for military movement.
 
I get it now, though I don't like the interpretation that Osship is a facade for military movement. As such I will be removing Osship from the map next update.
 
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