The Minister for Attorney General

Gracius Maximus

Tyrant (Ret.)
So, evidently several parties that were not in favor of my placement upon the Court for the past three or four elections have suddenly decided that I should be Attorney General. I almost want to just post a picture of Ackbar here but will refrain.

Therefore...

The Minister, as leader of Gracius Maximus, has served as Attorney General, Associate Justice and Chief Justice within these halls under various versions of the constitution. He also served as Minister of Justice in a previous governmental incarnation. Outside of that, within The North Pacific, he has served on the Security Council and as Election Commissioner. I believe way back in the nether realms of history he also served as Deputy Minister of Arts and Entertainment. Oh yeah, he also served as a Temporary Hearing Officer and gave assent to a decision that was later overturned by the Regional Assembly and has evidently been the cause of many objections to his candidacy, even though lesser nations have run on much weaker platforms and defeated him.

The Minister has also held association with a former Minister of Justice in The West Pacific and Senator of Justice in The Pacific, although such connections are tenuous at best these days.

He has served as presiding Judge on several cases and served as prosecutor and defense counsellor on multiple occasions. Outside of the aforementioned providing of minor input on one decision as a THO, he has never provided any input in the legal realm of this region that has been overturned or rejected by the Regional Assembly.

The Minister welcomes any questions but does not promise satisfactory answers.
 
I nominated Gracius Maximus because I think Attorney General is the right position for him in this region. I never voted for him to become Justice because I 1)don't trust him to have the final authority over the interpretation of our laws and 2)disagree with most of what he says about the law (not just in court opinions but in RA discussions, etc).

However, the Attorney General's interpretation of the law is not binding in itself. The AG may be required to interpret portions of the law in their duties to advocate to convict nations accused of a crime, but such interpretation will ultimately be accepted, rejected, or modified by the court. What's more, Gracius Maximus is clearly interested in legal matters, and has a lot of energy to put into such proceedings. He's tough, matter-of-fact, and straightforward in his dealings, which is exactly what we need in an Attorney General. If I were accused of a crime, I would be terrified of The Minister. I think that's a big point in his favor.
 
Crushing Our Enemies:
If I were accused of a crime, I would be terrified of The Minister.
I can agree with this sentiment.

GM, what currently filed cases in the AG's docket do you see as most important to prosecute? Which ones are least important?
 
SillyString:
Crushing Our Enemies:
If I were accused of a crime, I would be terrified of The Minister.
I can agree with this sentiment.

GM, what currently filed cases in the AG's docket do you see as most important to prosecute? Which ones are least important?
To be honest, I think the first order of business will be to confirm what is actually on the docket. The Complaints Docket forum is empty and the only outstanding request for indictment that I can see is posted in two different places and has had input from one of the sitting Justices before any AG involvement so I am going to have to review procedure to see what process needs to be followed and where processes have failed.
 
From what I gather from the AG, there are no outstanding cases at all, other than the JAL case, which has been worked on but could has not been completed due to time constraints.

The case you mentioned is an exception because it was filed by the delegate. The delegate is authorised to request indictments from the court without a prosecution being made by the AG's office.

I'm sure Kiwi will jump in and correct me if this is not totally accurate.
 
I believe there are a metric fuckton of indictments which have simply been... archived. An efficient way of ignoring things, I would say.
 
Question for the minister: At the moment the contaytooshun states that folks can only be prosecuted for things listed as offences in our laws. Fair enough.

Are there any things that you feel ought to be subject to criminal proceedings that are not already listed in our laws?
 
Crushing Our Enemies:
I never voted for him to become Justice because I 1)don't trust him to have the final authority over the interpretation of our laws and 2)disagree with most of what he says about the law (not just in court opinions but in RA discussions, etc).
I think some people were worried you might get creative, Minister.
 
flemingovia:
Question for the minister: At the moment the contaytooshun states that folks can only be prosecuted for things listed as offences in our laws. Fair enough.

Are there any things that you feel ought to be subject to criminal proceedings that are not already listed in our laws?
I do not believe the community benefits from excessive penal regulations. I do believe, however, that some of the civil cases that have been before the Court over the past year could have benefitted from inclusion in the criminal law.
 
flemingovia:
Crushing Our Enemies:
I never voted for him to become Justice because I 1)don't trust him to have the final authority over the interpretation of our laws and 2)disagree with most of what he says about the law (not just in court opinions but in RA discussions, etc).
I think some people were worried you might get creative, Minister.
Indeed.
 
SillyString:
I believe there are a metric fuckton of indictments which have simply been... archived. An efficient way of ignoring things, I would say.
I believe you may have overestimated the weight of the archived indictments. If indeed any exist.
 
SillyString:
I believe there are a metric fuckton of indictments which have simply been... archived. An efficient way of ignoring things, I would say.
I would wager to say you are correct. Probably stuff that goes back years and years. I'd also wager that some of the indicted nations have CTEd by now (along with the complainants). :P

This is one of several reasons why I support and voted for GM to be our next AG. He has excellent administrative capacity, an knack for details, tenacious and he can indeed be creative which is something we need in an AG.
 
Romanoffia:
SillyString:
I believe there are a metric fuckton of indictments which have simply been... archived. An efficient way of ignoring things, I would say.
I would wager to say you are correct. Probably stuff that goes back years and years. I'd also wager that some of the indicted nations have CTEd by now (along with the complainants). :P

This is one of several reasons why I support and voted for GM to be our next AG. He has excellent administrative capacity, an knack for details, tenacious and he can indeed be creative which is something we need in an AG.
Uhhh... just to clarify this since no one has actually personally asked me about it. Several cases haven't been pushed forward because the nation has ceased to exist and has no forum presence so the question remains of who would be punished?

I invite my successor to go through and pursue any cases that he or she feels have been ignored. I'm a wee bit annoyed though because I spent ages going through and cleaning up that particular forum trying to figure out what I had to prosecute. My predecessors actively ignored cases and yet seem to have escaped this aforementioned scrutiny that is wrongly being lumbered onto me.

Effectively it is exactly as Chasmanthe said it is. The next AG should be prioritising the JAL debacle which makes up a handful of different offences. However, if I recall correctly, since the AG Amendment has now passed the successor is free to pursue whichever charges are prudent. A liberty that unfortunately I did not have for the majority of my tenure. It may also be prudent to wait for the ruling on fraud which is still outstanding but that is up to the AG in question.

I will also be passing on a document that Chasmanthe and I were working on to whoever is the next AG. I would personally recommend Chas since he is much more familiar with the case... but that's just my opinion.

With that, this is all I will say on that particular matter. As for GM, this post does not involve any moaning about people on IRC so I will actually seriously consider GM for AG.
 
Kiwi:
I invite my successor to go through and pursue any cases that he or she feels have been ignored. I'm a wee bit annoyed though because I spent ages going through and cleaning up that particular forum trying to figure out what I had to prosecute. My predecessors actively ignored cases and yet seem to have escaped this aforementioned scrutiny that is wrongly being lumbered onto me.
Sorry, Kiwi - I didn't intend to be attacking you with my snarky comment about it. You're right, of course, that AGs have been ignoring indictments for, well, ever, and the vast majority of technically open indictments don't deserve prosecution.
 
The new AG bill should hopefully address these issues, so that the new AG can focus on the indictments that are actually important.
 
SillyString:
Kiwi:
I invite my successor to go through and pursue any cases that he or she feels have been ignored. I'm a wee bit annoyed though because I spent ages going through and cleaning up that particular forum trying to figure out what I had to prosecute. My predecessors actively ignored cases and yet seem to have escaped this aforementioned scrutiny that is wrongly being lumbered onto me.
Sorry, Kiwi - I didn't intend to be attacking you with my snarky comment about it. You're right, of course, that AGs have been ignoring indictments for, well, ever, and the vast majority of technically open indictments don't deserve prosecution.
Not a problem. It was more a combination of everyone immediately jumping on the bandwagon and my grumpy mood that did it. But thank you for clarifying.

And I'm glad to see that you think the AG bill addresses this issue R3n :)
 
Well, I assume that making an appeal to the Court would serve zero purpose since it would not be addressed prior to the end of the current vote so I will post my own thought here.

The election cycle is defined, as posted by The Voting Booth, but the Legal Code, while grouping the election cycle of Justice and Attorney General together does not definitively include them as one distinct cycle. They are grouped together for the convenience of establishing the timetable.

Therefore, the election cycle for Justice was completed when The Voting Booth posted the results of that election, per the Legal Code. The election cycle for Attorney General is still ongoing (and therefore can not be the same and joined with that of the Justices). Since the one has officially ended, my candidacy was not invalid.
 
Gracius Maximus:
Well, I assume that making an appeal to the Court would serve zero purpose since it would not be addressed prior to the end of the current vote so I will post my own thought here.

The election cycle is defined, as posted by The Voting Booth, but the Legal Code, while grouping the election cycle of Justice and Attorney General together does not definitively include them as one distinct cycle. They are grouped together for the convenience of establishing the timetable.

Therefore, the election cycle for Justice was completed when The Voting Booth posted the results of that election, per the Legal Code. The election cycle for Attorney General is still ongoing (and therefore can not be the same and joined with that of the Justices). Since the one has officially ended, my candidacy was not invalid.
You could ask the court to make an emergency and swift decision. It would test their mettle, but it should be possible.

Or at least ask for an injunction halting nominations until this issue is sorted out.
 
flemingovia:
Gracius Maximus:
Well, I assume that making an appeal to the Court would serve zero purpose since it would not be addressed prior to the end of the current vote so I will post my own thought here.

The election cycle is defined, as posted by The Voting Booth, but the Legal Code, while grouping the election cycle of Justice and Attorney General together does not definitively include them as one distinct cycle. They are grouped together for the convenience of establishing the timetable.

Therefore, the election cycle for Justice was completed when The Voting Booth posted the results of that election, per the Legal Code. The election cycle for Attorney General is still ongoing (and therefore can not be the same and joined with that of the Justices). Since the one has officially ended, my candidacy was not invalid.
You could ask the court to make an emergency and swift decision. It would test their mettle, but it should be possible.

Or at least ask for an injunction halting nominations until this issue is sorted out.
I like your idea of a write-in election better. :)
 
I am noted for occasional flashes of genius. But I fear a lot of the newbies would just look at the ballot paper and pick one.
 
I think the Attorney General's office usually has one deputy prosecutor. I'm pretty sure it was Chasmanthe :P

(checks the Government page)

Yeah it is :D
 
Lord Nwahs:
I think the Attorney General's office usually has one deputy prosecutor. I'm pretty sure it was Chasmanthe :P

(checks the Government page)

Yeah it is :D
That is correct. Chasmanthe was the Deputy AG. As the EC has confirmed his election to the post, he is no longer Deputy.

He can, however, appoint as many Deputies as he sees fit.
 
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