Getting our act together...

Here's a crazy idea, let's not allow ourselves to be coerced back onto the path of the status quo and actually work to change things...
 
Grosseschnauzer:
I keep getting this nagging feeling some want to use a nuclear device just to flatten a mole hill.
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If you think the problems we have can be described as a "mole hill" I would suggest you strongly re-evaluate the region.

The government is gigantic, riddled with positions that are irrelevant and ineffective.
 
HEM:
Grosseschnauzer:
I keep getting this nagging feeling some want to use a nuclear device just to flatten a mole hill.
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If you think the problems we have can be described as a "mole hill" I would suggest you strongly re-evaluate the region.

The government is gigantic, riddled with positions that are irrelevant and ineffective.
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Name two.
 
Ideally, the Vice Delegate is there to move into the position of Delegate should the need arise. Ironically a "Vice" anything doesn't really do much at all but act as a second. If anything, the position should be made more effective/active in its capacity to take over if the Delegate becomes indisposed at a critical time.
 
There's a deeper use to the Vice Delegate. The Vice Delegate is in charge of checking the Delegate should they go rogue, and administers the body in charge of that -- the Security Council. The Vice Delegate also has some responsibility for the security of the region.
 
Because the above has worked well in recent years...?

It would be more effective to kick that duty down to the Speaker. The whole Security Council idea can be done informally and perhaps be a tad more effective.
 
HEM:
Because the above has worked well in recent years...?

It would be more effective to kick that duty down to the Speaker. The whole Security Council idea can be done informally and perhaps be a tad more effective.
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Got a point there - a lot of the security measures we've tried over the years tend to go to pieces before they can even be implemented.
 
Since the Vice Delegate system of the current constitution was been enacted, not one legal Delegate has attempted to abolish the constitution.
 
That's because the whole system of government was changed to give the Delegate power. It still hasn't protected the region.

This region goes through a cycle, a coup happens and everyone is like, "I agree with them a little. We do need changes." Then right when these 'changes' are being worked on, someone who logs in once every six months or so, (Gross this time) says, "Name one thing wrong with this system. This system is great. Coups only happen for dumb reasons unrelated to our system. Kthxbai."

Then repeat.
 
Eluvatar:
Since the Vice Delegate system of the current constitution was been enacted, not one legal Delegate has attempted to abolish the constitution.
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That's normally the case considering the first time a Delegate attempts to abolish the constitution they become and illegal delegate.

I'm beginning to think we need a system in which we can turn the Delegate loose to kick some serious *ss if needs be (Invasions, etc.,,,). We know how to handle rogue delegates and interlopers successfully (even if it takes a little time to do it). What we really need to perfect is a way to bash the crap out of rogues and interlopers before they go off the rails. But those means need to be entertaining.
 
HEM:
That's because the whole system of government was changed to give the Delegate power. It still hasn't protected the region.

This region goes through a cycle, a coup happens and everyone is like, "I agree with them a little. We do need changes." Then right when these 'changes' are being worked on, someone who logs in once every six months or so, (Gross this time) says, "Name one thing wrong with this system. This system is great. Coups only happen for dumb reasons unrelated to our system. Kthxbai."

Then repeat.
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Not so. Lewis and Clark went rogue while he had complete authority over the executive.

Also, the guy who logs in once every six months or so is me, not Grosse. Grosse is usually quite active.
 
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That's exactly what I said. That the change of system to give the executive more power hasn't worked.
 
It's a shame really. The region needs to have the game granted supremacy of a delegate recognized, while respecting the needs of all. That requires a mutual respect between the delegate/executive and the people/assembly/legislative. As long as the two cannot come to grips with accepting one another's authorities, there will be mistrust and conflict. This requires a delegate that respects the decisions of the legislative authority while allowing the delegate/executive to be able to take action when the legislative authority grows inactive. And it requires a legislative system that respects the executive decisions of the delegate.....who is also empowered to take action iin the event of an inactive delegate.
 
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