Liberate Land of the Liberals[Archived]

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Liberate Land of the Liberals:
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region

Category: Liberation
Nominee (region): Land of the Liberals
Proposed by: Unibotian WA Mission

Description: The Security Council,

Noting that Land of the Liberals continues to be oppressed under the regime of New Earth, and its iron fist delegate, Spooks I;

Defines...
(1) "Native" as a nation which takes up residence in a region without the intention of furthering the goals and aims of a foreign force;
(2) "Regional Sovereignty" as the collective right of natives to the administration of their region;
(3) "Regional Destruction" as the ejection of all of the natives of a region by a delegate whose actions are not supported by said natives;

Understanding that the World Assembly has the ability to limit the administrative parameters of a delegate;

Believing that delegates who are not natives of their region generally are poor representatives and participants of the World Assembly, depending on the goals and aims of the foreign force which they are furthering;

Further Believing that the World Assembly has entrusted the Security Council with the solemn task of enabling regional sovereignty while regulating such unruly delegates;

Recognizing that the delegate of Land of the Liberals is primarily interested in furthering the empire of New Earth, and is not concerned with the well-being or representing the values of those residing in Land of the Liberals who do not share his foreign interests;

For he has,

• Banned nations such as Maressia for having a democratic socialist government (with no respect for the nature or the spirit of the region in which he is delegate);
• Threatened natives with the decision either to surrender to the authority of New Earth or receive ejection and banishment;
• Implemented a password which is hidden to residents, for the purposes of refounding and gaining even more control through the destruction of the region;

Disgusted that the delegate of Land of the Liberals previously attempted to undermine the World Assembly by temporarily acting above suspicion of all nefarious intentions;

Aware of at least one native, Moralesia, which has declared their disapproval of their region's new administration and their wish for a liberation effort;

Noting that, with native support, defending and other third-party organizations will likely be more inclined to assist with further peacekeeping efforts in Land of the Liberals than before, thus furthering the protection of regional sovereignty and the dissemination of inter-regional peace and goodwill;

Hereby Revokes the ability of this victimized region’s delegate to password protect the region.

Co-authored by Sedgistan, Naivetry and Whamabama.

Approvals: 100 (Kandarin, TurtleShroom, The Derrak Quadrant, Unified Western States, NewTexas, Eastern Kingdomes, Kershnertopia, New Catolonia, Belkan Provinces, Minyos, Tinis, Magna Omega, Radonicus, Sveltz, Grays Harbor, Nordicus, Fenure, Obelstien, Gabwaar, Skyrise, Baselyn Island, Conservative Alliances, Tohatchi, SOLID principles, Ancion, Westwind, Compass Quest, Ticaraland, Jimmy Hart, Time Traveling, Myself of Awe, Hogsmberg, Kleinekatzen, South Afriqua, Duckside, Abanao, Wolfhawk, WaffenBrightonburg, South Lorenya, Enn, Charlotte Ryberg, Opalaland, Itas, Cabanastan, Ganicia, King Kulla, Skarlocke, Ballotonia, Reinnapani, Blackwolfe, Phthisis, Hagaman, The Voltarum, Nordali, Geonovia, Gaiah, CrimsonRayne, Ar Dium, Sofnikos Anaxaux, Kyr4, The Despair, Aegara, West-Flanders, ROMPA, Torukia, Sonnveld, Qwcasd, Rajesthan, Kylarnatia, Colten Cowell, Aquamarine, Pusik XII, Spartan Philidelphia, Lumenos, Empyra, Goikeometry, Tomisichi, The Tomtopian Empire, AmericaXLI, Rasoana, Stalagstein, Karistina, Kepra, The Minor Countries, Arlingdon, Konir, Vega-Altair, Strathy, Sabanland, LOMS, Octopucta, Edival, Topid, Sharps Land, San Guillermo, I dont know where, The UG, At2, Andertion, Cadudu)

Status: Quorum Reached: In Queue!
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Hmmm. this looks like a native delegate gone rogue and calling in outside help rather than an invasion. Have I read that right?

If the delegate can call in help, why not the opposition?

I am FOR this at the moment. I think I am increasingly inclined to vote for the removal of any password controls in a region.
 
I'm pretty sure Spooks I is not a native delegate, but a player from New Earth, with endorsers from various imperialist leaning regions. I haven't paid much attention to Land of the Liberals especially though, so I need to read up on stuff to be totally sure.
 
flemingovia:
Hmmm. this looks like a native delegate gone rogue and calling in outside help rather than an invasion. Have I read that right?

If the delegate can call in help, why not the opposition?

I am FOR this at the moment. I think I am increasingly inclined to vote for the removal of any password controls in a region.
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Hi, I'm the author of the proposal.

I don't know how biased I am as the author of the resolution, however, for certain, Spooks I is an invader for New Earth. New Earth, with the help of NAZI EUROPE successful invaded Land of the Liberals about a month ago, and put up a password, last week, shortly after the last liberation proposal passed.

Just today....

4 hours ago: The Kingdom of Spooks I ejected The United Socialist States of Moralesia from the region.

... the native who contacted me, in regards to a liberation, was ejected from the region.

If you have any questions you can contact me here, or by telegram. Thanks.
 
Zoldorstan:
what about the other 2/3 of the natives that support New Earth?
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Kalibarr, They have no choice in the matter of a refound, New Earth has told the natives that the refound will happen, and it will either happen with or without their support. It doesn't surprise me that some of the natives believe that New Earth will let them run their region peacefully afterwards the massive ejection, the password implementation and the seizure of ultimate control over then region by New Earth.
 
unibot:
Zoldorstan:
what about the other 2/3 of the natives that support New Earth?
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Kalibarr, They have no choice in the matter of a refound, New Earth has told the natives that the refound will happen, and it will either happen with or without their support. It doesn't surprise me that some of the natives believe that New Earth will let them run their region peacefully afterwards the massive ejection, the password implementation and the seizure of ultimate control over then region by New Earth.
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Actually, what reason do we have to believe otherwise? New Earth isn't Macedon, after all.
 
Eluvatar:
unibot:
Zoldorstan:
what about the other 2/3 of the natives that support New Earth?
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Kalibarr, They have no choice in the matter of a refound, New Earth has told the natives that the refound will happen, and it will either happen with or without their support. It doesn't surprise me that some of the natives believe that New Earth will let them run their region peacefully afterwards the massive ejection, the password implementation and the seizure of ultimate control over then region by New Earth.
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Actually, what reason do we have to believe otherwise? New Earth isn't Macedon, after all.
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There is a telegram that New Earth is sending to people. Its located on the NS forums.
 
Zoldorstan:
Zoldorstan:
And natives wouldn't?

show me your concerns aren't based on anything more than Rolamec is not a native.
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I really don't wish to derail these guys' thread, Kali, we do it everytime we argue on anything.

However, my concerns aren't wherever or not New Earth are natives, but that their forceful invasion is rooted in gaining absolute control over the region for the purposes of an expanding empire.

You're welcome to carry this on the NS forums.
 
unibot:
Zoldorstan:
Zoldorstan:
And natives wouldn't?

show me your concerns aren't based on anything more than Rolamec is not a native.
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I really don't wish to derail these guys' thread, Kali, we do it everytime we argue on anything.

However, my concerns aren't wherever or not New Earth are natives, but that their forceful invasion is rooted in gaining absolute control over the region for the purposes of an expanding empire.

You're welcome to carry this on the NS forums.
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We tend to do that don't we.

cya around
 
Greetings,

I am Rolamec of New Earth, and I am here, if you permit it, to argue why you ought to vote AGAINST.

It is true we are raiders, it is furthermore true Spooks I is a soldier of New Earth, not a native of the Land of the Liberals.

However, it should be noted that New Earth has 2/3 support of the natives (Worried Men, Liberal Black Dude, Azril).

The author of the resolution argues that we have 'coerced' the natives into supporting us. However this is simply not true. After all all the natives were telegrammed the same thing, if the natives truly felt that we were dangerous, they would have endorsed this resolution with the two who did.

Therefore to argue that we have forced the natives into doing anything is false. It is not true. They have an option to openly oppose us or support us, and a very clear majority does support our efforts.

I more than welcome you to contact the nations I have listed, and to ask the FRA to confirm their native status.

Second, I also condemn this resolution for writing that we ejected anybody because ideologue, that is false, the authors know this, but have used this in hopes to cause outrage.

New Earth is as diverse as the North Pacific is. We have nations all across the political spectrum. We do not promote on ideologue over another, not in New Earth, not in the Land of the Liberals.

I therefore, urge you the North Pacific to vote AGAINST, this resolution lacks of native support, but New Earth does. Second, it is deceptive in arguing that we targeted an individual due to his or her ideologue, that is false. The natives have an option to support a resolution to liberate it or support our efforts to refound it. Two nations have supported the resolution openly, and three natives support New Earth, all received the same telegram, there was an option and it was made.

I again thank you for your time, thank you for letting me post here, and urge you to vote 'AGAINST.'
 
New Earth may have 2/3 support of the natives, but what alternative did they receive?

From my reading here and elsewhere it sounds about as valid as saying "I walked down the road and put a gun to people's heads. Two thirds of people voted for me not to shoot them."

I put it to you that "bend over and spread buttock or be ejected and banned" is not giving people much of a choice.
 
In my view, the banning or password lockout of even one native (who cares) is invasion griefing and is actionable by the World Assembly.

(Yes I'm voting for)
 
While Rolamekc claims to have support of 3 natives, His General "Spooks" claims that they have not talked to any natives.

So they question I ask you is this. Can you really trust a group that contradicts each other?
 
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