US General Elections

Kor, just because the term Liberal is widely used incorrectly in the United States does not make you correct.

Ron Paul is a Liberal. He is certainly an economic liberal, even if he is more conservative on some social issues. You can call him a Libertarian Conservative if you like but that still makes him a proponent of classical liberalism...
 
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Kor, just because the term Liberal is widely used incorrectly in the United States does not make you correct.

Ron Paul is a Liberal. He is certainly an economic liberal, even if he is more conservative on some social issues. You can call him a Libertarian Conservative if you like but that still makes him a proponent of classical liberalism...
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Flamebaiter!!!!!

Oh wait... nvm
 
Obama. He is the best of those candidates who have a chance to win.

So what's wrong with socialism again?

Kor, Sniffles, you're cute. No really, it's cute how easily you lose your cool.
 
I don't know what the deal with calling Barak Socialist is. Yes, "spreading the wealth around" is something that socialists do, but it isn't socialist in itself. That's like saying hardcore Democrats and hardcore Libertarians are the same because they both want the government out of the bedroom or want to legalize pot.

If you were to take Barak's comments to their most extreme, you would not get Socialism, but a European style welfare state. Frankly with the way Social Security is going to swallow up so much of our budget once the majority of the Baby Boomers retire, we are already on our way to becoming one no matter who wins.
 
Palin's socialist policies in Alaska

Oh could it be? Could all this labelling really just be a fake ploy since progressive taxation is the fact of life for all modern countries? (No, W. I didn't forget Poland. At 35% they just don't count) Could a Republican or a politician for that matter, just use stupid labels to misinform the voters??????
 
Haor Chall:
Kor, just because the term Liberal is widely used incorrectly in the United States does not make you correct.

Ron Paul is a Liberal. He is certainly an economic liberal, even if he is more conservative on some social issues. You can call him a Libertarian Conservative if you like but that still makes him a proponent of classical liberalism...
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It's too broad of a generalization. It's like saying Stalinism is Leninism because they are both Communist beliefs. It's like calling Catholicism Baptist, because they are both denominations of Christianity. It's like calling Laissez-faire capitalism Corporate Capitalism, because they are both types of Capitalist economies.

But then again I'm just a dumb American who lacks the intelligence(as a few people are quick to point out) to hold a conversation with such astronomical intellects that are here. So I'll just leave ya'll with this:


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America! FUCK YEAH!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI
 
*Sydia dances.

Shove that in your pipe and smoke it, neocons! And a big thank you to Sarah Palin for losing McCain the election. Now go back to shooting moose, you clueless bint.

*Sydia dances some more.
 
First of all I guarantee my education level is higher than yours and the University I attended is probably higher rated than the one you attend/attended.
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I'll see your university and raise you.


Serves Palin right for alienating the Moose lobby.
 
*Grabs a sickle and hammer and puts on his new state issued uniform*

Good morning, Comrades D: D: D:

:P


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Kor:
mr_sniffles:
Ugh damn American public schools.

Kor if you are a Ron Paul supporter then you are the biggest liberal of them all! It's called classical liberal theory; what Ron Paul, Margaret Thatcher, and Reagan were the biggest exponents of and created the entire modern liberalism movement. In fact, it's called neo-liberalism everywhwere Rush Limbaugh haven't spread his fat filth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

Newfoundland, Australia, New Zealand! Liberal parties are the RIGHTWING PARTY!

Anyone who believes in freedom and capitalism is a liberal! You just get reform liberals like Obama who believe that since the Industrial Revolution, freedom can't be granted without equality of opportunity since how free can you be if you're doomed to your parents poverty, without education for economic mobility, without public healthcare to spare you of easily preventable diseases, without corporate monopolies or cartels fixing the prices? Where's the evil socialism in that?

As for Obama wanting to "spread the wealth around," silly rabbit. It's called progressive taxation! Been round since the income tax was introduced by Wilson in 1916 and forever, if you count the intent of selective tarrifs for crop exports in the  Carolina (before there was a South) and Maryland. Socialism would be the government nationalizing all the banks and having the government run them, not giving them handouts when they screw up and hoping they give the money back eventually.

But wait... public education? Public healthcare? Public police and firefighting?
Gasp horrors, SOCIALISM!!!!

These people who buy party lines (especially the ridiculousness of the republicans since 1964) must be either the most selfish or the most coddled people in the world! Things cost money in a capitalist society! Can't stand the thought of paying taxes and hold an innordinate love for guns? Move to Afganistan! Pay no taxes, get no services you don't want to pay for (if any,) call yourself taliban and shoot at anything moving! Why not? Because you want the goods, services, and order provided by the government, you just don't want to pay for it!

Maitres chez nous? Sounds good if you still have the scars of sharing your fruit rollup at the age of four, but when your neighbours house is on fire and threatening to spread to yours, you don't talk about the "unfairness" of having to pay more taxes than bob your neighbour just because you earn more, or having to pay for everyone elses firefighting service just because you pay more taxes, you don't argue with the firefighters about how you should be able to choose the best firefighting service with your own money... YOU PUT THE GODDAMN FIRE OUT!

And it's because and not limited to these reasons that people outside of the US think Republicans are evil and Ron Paul supporters never reached the emotional maturity of an eight year old. So go ahead and laugh at our accents!

Ugh, a Canadian schooling Americans on their own history... Seacrest out.
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First of all I guarantee my education level is higher than yours and the University I attended is probably higher rated than the one you attend/attended. Secondly, Ron Paul is not a liberal, nor are his ideas. You obviously have the definition of liberal and conservative confused. Ron Paul is a classic conservative and a constitutionalist. Modern shifts in the conservative wing have changed what people call conservatives. Maybe you need to read more of his policies and you might know this.

Before you decide to insult public schools maybe you should look at some of the "winners" private schools have created. Mostly dumb, arrogant rich kids that only have jobs because mommy and daddy have pull and are usually dumber than a bag of hammers.
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Wow, this little missive and flexing of ego caused me to say "what a dick" OUT LOUD. Funny how you are so well educated yet you dont have a job. I'm sure its because you're too well qualified to work a seemingly menial job.

And, i voted for McCain because he doesnt want public funded healthcare, and also because he was a Naval Officer and therefore knows much more about how to run our Armed Forces than Nobama. That, and what real experience does Obama have compared to McCain?

Regarding socialism and other so called socialist vs liberal ideals, if you look at where the candidates stand on everything its not too far from each other in the grand scheme of politics. How much can one man change in only 4 years? I for one feel that the only reason Barry O won is because the republicans were blamed for the economic turmoil we are currently experiencing because a rep was in the white house, even though people overlook the fact that most of the sub prime lenders etc were urged to do what they did because of dems like barney frank.

Lastly, being that i am a government employee i have seen first hand how grossly inefficient even the most menial task can be accomplished thanks to regulations imposed by said govt, and if health care were to be taken charge of by the government, i may have to move out of here. It gives me the chills.

Diver down on two.
 
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