Gatesville Statement Discussion

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The North Pacific recognizes a state of war with Gatesville, as initiated by Gatesville.

At no point did The North Pacific take hostile action against Gatesville or against The Empire. Indeed, the North Pacific even supported them before it was outright threatened by The Empire's Lord Rahl. We had made it clear in private that the actions of Flemingovia and Kharkistania were not in anyway sanctioned by this government. Both parties are members of multiple regions, yet it is only this region that Gatesville has chosen to single out.

Over the course of the last few days, it became apparent that Gatesville intended to void the peace treaty that had been signed between our two regions and which had, despite lingering tensions, maintained peace for a number of months.

First, it was claimed that we had violated the treaty. As we never acted against Gatesville, this was obviously false. Then, they claimed it was because of our actions in The East Pacific, a region and regime with no relation to the treaty. Even so, we, again, had never engaged in any hostile action in that region, and this was obviously just an excuse. In fact, TNP nations, including government members, had provided material support to the Empire from the beginning, and it was not until Lord Rahl posted a threatening letter to our region claiming we would be "purified" that anyone from TNP began to take any serious issue or notice.

So, then, it was claimed we had violated the "spirit" of the treaty, because supposedly we had nations disparaging the reputation of Gatesville. Given that the treaty was simply a peace treaty, and given that we had not mounted any campaign of slander and, in fact, there were relatively few negative comments aimed at Gatesville, this was yet another excuse. Especially considering the numerous disparaging remarks that have been made about us or our members.

Regardless of all of this, we were prepared to meet Gatesville at least part of the way. After discussions with the Gatesville delegate, Darkesia, we agreed to make a public statement expressing that we were in no way related to, endorsing, or sanctioning the actions of Flemingovia or Kharkistania.

Gates then turned around a few hours later and threw this agreement out, insisting that we "cast out" the "scum." A short time later, with no real dialogue and without waiting to hear from our Delegate and President, Eluvatar, Gates announced that the treaty had been voided and then that we were in a state of war.

While disappointing, this is hardly surprising, given that their intentions from the beginning appears to have been simply to drum up an excuse to void the treaty. So, then, while we have not sought out conflict with anyone, conflict has come to our doorstep. Gates will regret his hubris and reactionary behavior, as we will not submit to his ego. We will never submit.

President Eluvatar
Minister of Defense Heft
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See this and the earlier discussion.
 
Eluvatar:
Then, they claimed it was because of our actions in The East Pacific, a region and regime with no relation to the treaty.
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Apparently the enemy of Gatesville's friend is their enemy too...whether or not their friend actually threw a punch at you first.
 
Rhindon Blade:
Eluvatar:
Then, they claimed it was because of our actions in The East Pacific, a region and regime with no relation to the treaty.
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Apparently the enemy of Gatesville's friend is their enemy too...whether or not their friend actually threw a punch at you first.
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That was always their way, my friend. All this "former rogue delegate" has to say is Viva TNP!
 
Rapid and unpredictable mode swings? Tendency towards aggression and violence? Displays of extreme egotism?

Sounds like something hormonal to me.
 
Well, we're headed to war, and you've just shown up to ingratiate yourself to the aggressors, so I guess not.
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I just came over to say hello...who gives a flying whatever about a nationstates war these days?

I don't even know what you're talking about.
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referencing flem
 
flemingovia:
The queen of hearts is menopausal, perhaps?
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I'm pretty sure that's what he meant, specifically the use of the word menopausal.

Your satire is allegorical so one can take that description and understand it as a description of the person the character satirizes.


Hope that helps you understand each other.
 
As an aside, I am surprised Fulhead doesn't seem to like keeping TNP sovereign and free from the domination of Gatesville.

How is Gatesville better than the ADN?
 
As an aside, I am surprised Fulhead doesn't seem to like keeping TNP sovereign and free from the domination of Gatesville.

How is Gatesville better than the ADN?
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I never said I wanted Gatesville domination. I just said Flem's comment was rude. Unless of course, questioning is now a capital offence in TNP? Who knows, it's been a while.

Personally I think if this had happened..a year and a half ago, it would have been interesting. Its a bit late now but have fun, go nuts.
 
Here we go with another war yet again. For the first time in history, I am speechless.
 
Dear Gatesville,

It is with regret I write to you highlighting concerns about your service. I am not normally one to complain, but I feel your actions (or lack thereof) have left me with no other course of action open.

I have experienced your warmongering services in the past, and generally have been pleased. Perhaps your Conflict Operatives did somewhat out stay their welcome, but the enthusiasm with which they carried out their work made up for it, and besides their uniforms are just so cute I could hardly remain angry for long.

The only sour note of my previous dealings with the Gatesville war machine, was the poor performance when it came to the extras one expects. While your basic war package did what it said on the tin, I was greatly looking forward to the termination of interests premium package I subscribed to. Your telesales department did a great job of selling it in the first instance, but rapidly resorted to repeated broken deadlines for activation and eventually stopped responding to my inquiries all together.

I know I am not the only disappointed customer in this respect.

So then, imagine my anticipation when a second chance came to experience these excellent add-on services. Perhaps once bitten, twice shy should have been in my mind.

Not only have I discovered your termination of interest services are still unavailable, but you basic war package is now equally unimpressive. While I understand making your complete service available to such a large population immediately is difficult, perhaps you should have thought about the logistical limitation you obviously have before making such grandiose claims.

I expect to find Gatesville troops raping and pillaging in my neighbourhood soon, or at least giving leery looks and demanding cups of tea. If not, I may be forced to take my war needs elsewhere.

Yours sincerely,

Disappointed of Namyeknomia
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And so began the legendary Letter-Writing Campaign of '08. It was long and arduous, and the letter-writerers were beset on all sides by wrist cramps, ink blotches, and stamp shortages. But they valiantally, heroically, wrote, and wrote, and wrote.

*tear*
 
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