ClusterF#@$ 2007 Part V

New Kervoskia

New Kervoskia

TNPer
Latest as of 13 November, 2007

[HC's Proposal: AYE 14%, NAY 81%, ABSTAIN 5%]

[Rom's Proposal: AYE 19%, NAY 68%, ABSTAIN 13%]

[MO's Proposal: AYE 68%, NAY 23%, ABSTAIN 9%]
 
I voted Nay on all.

I wavered on MO's proposal, but in the end, I do not beleive it provides the radical change that I beleive it needed.
 
I think we should have a delegate campaign with each candidate presenting their own proposed Constitution/Charter...form of government..theme..and all that.

The winning delegate then gets to set their plan into place for four months, when new elections can be held to continue that direction or change it again.
 
Lewis and Clark:
I think we should have a delegate campaign with each candidate presenting their own proposed Constitution/Charter...form of government..theme..and all that.

The winning delegate then gets to set their plan into place for four months, when new elections can be held to continue that direction or change it again.
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Agreed entirely.
 
Kharkistania's Proposal for the New Constitution of The North Pacific



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I always heard a picture's worth a thousand words.
 
Well, if that's what the people want, that's what they get. God help us all. ;)
 
Actually, I do like MO's proposition concerning the increased executive authority of the Delegate. It's not far off from what I proposed. Ironically, and practically, it's the authority of the delegate to act without delay according to law that it is important. Hell, I can live with that. ;D
 
It is odd that such an arguement is the same one that I have been making for years.

Some of us are just always a few steps ahead.
 
Pierconium:
It is odd that such an arguement is the same one that I have been making for years.

Some of us are just always a few steps ahead.
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Ironically, you are correct. My personal feelings are that a regional delegate should have the proper authority to boot-ass on tarting nations without having to jump through all kinds of hoops. This only way to have a strong government is if you have a strong delegate who can act without delay in preserving regional security. And there is no danger to the institution of a democracy, republic or any other form of government if you can preserve the delegacy and a government that will support the delegate.

My idea was to have a delegate that was a real executive officer who can create any needed governmental departments and appoint heads to those departments at will with RA approval/confirmation. That way the executive branch of government (which consumes the most manpower) can change with levels of activity, and act even if there is low activity because the executive authority resides in the Delegate, much like the President in a republic or federal union.

As it stands now, the executive authority is to fragmented in this region and there will always be turmoil if that condition continues.
 
Lando is a metaphor. He stands for us not needing a proper
"written constitution", but rather a set of laws and documents that taken as a whole are an unofficial constitution. It is the system that Israel, New Zealand, and the UK use, and is particularly effective in nations where there are major tensions between what different parties think the constitution should be like: ie, Israel or... TNP? We make laws based on bad experiences of the past, and add new clauses as necessary, rather than using an inflexible constitution written in stone.
 
So its more like a dynamic constitution thats adjusting and learning as we go along.

The Question is: How can we implement it and make sure that it doesnt grow out of our control and build an army of zombie robots that eat everyones accounts and endorsments?
 
Rocketman:
So its more like a dynamic constitution thats adjusting and learning as we go along.

The Question is: How can we implement it and make sure that it doesnt grow out of our control and build an army of zombie robots that eat everyones accounts and endorsments?
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We sedate it with copious amounts of Colt 45 malt liquor, just like Lando would have wanted.
 
Where i come from, we call it Billy Dee, and it ALWAYS does the trick to thwart dynamic constitutions from creating robot zombies, or zombie robots, or any other contraption to take over and run things with impunity. Even an Evil Overlord couldnt anticipate such a unique method of sedation.
 
I am against Delegated powers because of the past experiences we have had with Delegates literally taking over the region. Dalimbar is a prime example (or Chodean Kal; I can't remember). And, with what I have gathered, Emperor Matthuis. This will continue to be a problem in the North Pacific. The Delegate doesn't need MORE power. It needs less.
 
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