Pseudo-Francoism & Opportunism

As the Pacific descends into chaos, the Mooist regime operates in full recovery mode. The recent return of former Senator and Delegate Ivan Moldavi begs many questions, but the one the edge of every tongue is simply why. Why? Moo-cows with guns is no Francoist. He knows as well as we do that his actions indicate nothing else. He pays mere lip service to Francoism while his cadre of advisors attempts to keep the spirit alive. Many times the flame nearly went out due to inactivity.

Although Moo feels he has gained some semblance of legitimacy through the inclusion of Ivan Moldavi to his team of pseudo-Francoists and sycophants, the truth speaks otherwise. Ivan Moldavi's name does not appear in any Francoist literature despite claims to the contrary. During the authorship of Comrade Unlimited's Proper Francoist Thought, Pierconium was expelled from the Senate for assuming the North Pacifican delegacy under the nation Pixiedance.

This was a gross violation of regional sovereignty and the tenets of Francoism, but most of all it was a most egregious and dishonest act. He withheld this information from the Senate and created potential threats to regional security and Feederite stability. And what is his excuse? Duality. All have witnessed this defense at some point in time. "It was not Pierconium who did this, but The Minister". "I have never spoken such words. It was Vlagh." This is a flimsy excuse at best. Whether Ivan possesses one or 1,000 nations, ultimately all of those actions are the result of the desires and intentions of one person. Ivan is one person with countless masks and Francoist is not one of them, opportunist is.

So we, the few remaining Francoists, declare that the only person capable of refuting our claims is the Father of Francoism himself. Emperor Francos Spain.

To clarify, Ivan was expelled from the Senate for not informing them of his actions. But he retained access to various hidden intel forums in the PRP and collaborated with them during the event.

I have screenshots if anyone would like to see.

(Sorry for that aside; it was a well-written and thought out essay that brings me back to the PRP days if that's what you were going for)

The move in TNP by The Minister was a move towards a Francoist, although the term didn't exist at the time, government that was not encumbered by outside influences (ADN at the time) and bound by a cumbersome bureaucracy. The Constitution of this region, regardless of any other constructs brought in from outside or influences from same, is, in and of itself, contrary to Francoist thought. It binds the power of the sitting Delegate.

It is telling that these two former Senators have decided that this region should be their main sounding board in these times of transition. It speaks volumes of their true knowledge of Francoism.

The Senate of the PRP retracted their position on the actions of The Minister and apologized to the peoples of Pierconium for failing to openly support him during that time. It was their own failing in Francoism at the time by succumbing to diplomatic pressure from abroad instead of following the true ideals set forth by Francos Spain.

Since neither Karpathos or New Kervoskia ever spoke with Francos Spain then they truly have no working knowledge of what it actually means to be Francoist beyond their own erroneous interpretation.

The move in TNP by The Minister was a move towards a Francoist, although the term didn't exist at the time, government that was not encumbered by outside influences (ADN at the time) and bound by a cumbersome bureaucracy. The Constitution of this region, regardless of any other constructs brought in from outside or influences from same, is, in and of itself, contrary to Francoist thought. It binds the power of the sitting Delegate.

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We agree!

*removes himself from the topic now*

If I ever became a Francoist, Happy Hour would be enforced by law.

Romanoffia:

If I ever became a Francoist, Happy Hour would be enforced by law.

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Out of almost everyone that is longstanding in this government I would pick you to be the easiest to "sway" if the power of the Delegacy were ever passed to you. You carry a lot of paranoia, which can be a useful tool if properly channeled, and are quick to anger, which could be used as a means of turning you to the Dark Side if the opportunity ever arose.

You pay lipservice to the Constitution here because the masses on this forum embrace you as one of their only "diplomatic" combatants, but I doubt they would ever elect you to be their Delegate because they can see the writing on the wall as well, if not better, than I can.

Guess what pal, I'm not a very easy person to sway, so you have obviously overextended your intuitive powers.

I can not be swayed from my dedication to representative democracy and its moral superiority to anything as decrepit as Francoism.

As for paranoia, I think you are projecting your own deficiencies and limitation to compensate for some short-coming that only Dr, Freud can comprehend.

My attitude and actions were I crazy enough to even remotely want to be Delegate would be centered on one single thing: Preserving the security and stability of the region, constitution and government thereof in the most expedient and legitimage fashion possible. Unlike certain coercive types we all know about, I have complete faith in the fact that the 'masses' will, in the end, ultimately do the right thing and be enlightened enough to believe and act upon democratic principles.

Unlike certain groups and individuals who believe the only way to get things done is to coerce people or trample them, I believe that people have the right to choose for themselves and rise up against oppression, and that they will when presented with the challenge of putting dictators and oppressors in their place.

Paranoid? No. Vigilant? Yes. Able to see through poorly veiled attempts by totalitarian fascist types? You bet.

I do not believe in seeking power for the sake of having power. The ultimate power lay in the hands of those who delegate that power. Totalitarian regimes like Pixieslime, et al, are weak and doomed to crashing by design. Want to know why? If you lead a bunch of coerced, cowering sheep into battle, the wolves of freedom and democracy will eat you alive.

But alas, you don't get it and probably never will.

I once said that in TNP I could say "I have to pee" and the old boys club would argue for 6 months about the legalities of my use of the word "to." Meanwhile some forward thinking member would order up a committe to study how to appoint a commission on choosing the task of how to clean up the mess I was about to make on the floor.

I wonder if I can find that post.

I for one, appreciate that they are posting here and other places. I am unable to see TP's (I can't say FUPS with a straight face) forum. So information is precious for me. I have heard that activity is not what it should be, despite the cult of personality that follows Ivan. IMO, it would have had more shock value and drawn more of a crowd, if Ivan had made Moo hand over the region immediately.

But honestly, things get burried in TNP silliness here. Charon is helping us stay on track in our discussions in TWP. They are far more productive, if they do at times drift toward bitter sweet nostalgia.

Romanoffia:

Guess what pal, I'm not a very easy person to sway, so you have obviously overextended your intuitive powers.

I can not be swayed from my dedication to representative democracy and its moral superiority to anything as decrepit as Francoism.

As for paranoia, I think you are projecting your own deficiencies and limitation to compensate for some short-coming that only Dr, Freud can comprehend.

My attitude and actions were I crazy enough to even remotely want to be Delegate would be centered on one single thing: Preserving the security and stability of the region, constitution and government thereof in the most expedient and legitimage fashion possible. Unlike certain coercive types we all know about, I have complete faith in the fact that the 'masses' will, in the end, ultimately do the right thing and be enlightened enough to believe and act upon democratic principles.

Unlike certain groups and individuals who believe the only way to get things done is to coerce people or trample them, I believe that people have the right to choose for themselves and rise up against oppression, and that they will when presented with the challenge of putting dictators and oppressors in their place.

Paranoid? No. Vigilant? Yes. Able to see through poorly veiled attempts by totalitarian fascist types? You bet.

I do not believe in seeking power for the sake of having power. The ultimate power lay in the hands of those who delegate that power. Totalitarian regimes like Pixieslime, et al, are weak and doomed to crashing by design. Want to know why? If you lead a bunch of coerced, cowering sheep into battle, the wolves of freedom and democracy will eat you alive.

But alas, you don't get it and probably never will.

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The emotion in your post, along with the amount of time you spent preparing it (at least from the amount of time you were "posting" on the active users list) tells another tale, but so be it. I find your delusions amusing, as I always have.

Darkesia:

I once said that in TNP I could say "I have to pee" and the old boys club would argue for 6 months about the legalities of my use of the word "to." Meanwhile some forward thinking member would order up a committe to study how to appoint a commission on choosing the task of how to clean up the mess I was about to make on the floor.

I wonder if I can find that post.

I for one, appreciate that they are posting here and other places. I am unable to see TP's (I can't say FUPS with a straight face) forum. So information is precious for me. I have heard that activity is not what it should be, despite the cult of personality that follows Ivan. IMO, it would have had more shock value and drawn more of a crowd, if Ivan had made Moo hand over the region immediately.

But honestly, things get burried in TNP silliness here. Charon is helping us stay on track in our discussions in TWP. They are far more productive, if they do at times drift toward bitter sweet nostalgia.

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Forum activity will take time to increase, so far as I can tell it was pushed by various factions to the point of nonexistance for a prolonged period of time. It will take effort to correct that.

Insofar as any cult of personality that surrounds me, I do not believe such a thing exist in the present. It may have at one point in time but I hold no delusions of my "fame" after having been absent for nearly a full year. I have notoriety, but notoriety isn't the same thing as popularity by a long shot.

I am still getting grounded into the current affairs of Pacifica and the political arena as it exists today. Eventually I will begin making the necessary diplomatic rounds on behalf of the Delegate and then we can see what sort of trouble can be stirred up.

Why does someone who tells us "trust in the delegate" think he should act on the delegate's behalf?

Chairman Alexis:

Why does someone who tells us "trust in the delegate" think he should act on the delegate's behalf?

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It is customary for any head of state to have those that will speak on his or her behalf when he or she is unavailable. I find myself with a higher level of online activity than the Delegate at present, thus I can speak more readily to the issues that might arise.

But you are not the delegate, Pierconium. What you are doing contradicts the idea of delegate-centered rule. If Moo cows cannot rule, he should resign and make way for a more active delegate, no? That way, delegate-centered rule stays intact.

Pierconium:

Romanoffia:

Guess what pal, I'm not a very easy person to sway, so you have obviously overextended  your intuitive powers.

I can not be swayed from my dedication to representative democracy and its moral superiority to anything as decrepit as Francoism.

As for paranoia, I think you are projecting your own deficiencies and limitation to compensate for some short-coming that only Dr, Freud can comprehend.

My attitude and actions were I crazy enough to even remotely want to be Delegate would be centered on one single thing: Preserving the security and stability of the region, constitution and government thereof in the most expedient and legitimage fashion possible. Unlike certain coercive types we all know about, I have complete faith in the fact that the 'masses' will, in the end, ultimately do the right thing and be enlightened enough to believe and act upon democratic principles.

Unlike certain groups and individuals who believe the only way to get things done is to coerce people or trample them, I believe that people have the right to choose for themselves and rise up against oppression, and that they will when presented with the challenge of putting dictators and oppressors in their place.

Paranoid? No. Vigilant? Yes. Able to see through poorly veiled attempts by totalitarian fascist types? You bet.

I do not believe in seeking power for the sake of having power. The ultimate power lay in the hands  of those who delegate that power. Totalitarian regimes like Pixieslime, et al, are weak and doomed to crashing by design. Want to know why? If you lead a bunch of coerced, cowering sheep into battle, the wolves of freedom and democracy will eat you alive.

But alas, you don't get it and probably never will.

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The emotion in your post, along with the amount of time you spent preparing it (at least from the amount of time you were "posting" on the active users list) tells another tale, but so be it. I find your delusions amusing, as I always have.

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Oh, you are really reaching. I mean really reaching.

One again, methinks thou protests too much. And you also project too much.

And by now, you should at least realize that I am fairly unbending when it comes to my belief and faith in the fact that people ultimately make the right and proper decisions when it comes to giving in to dictators and tin-horns.

That the difference between us - you prey upon the negative aspects of human nature and try to exploit the negative aspects. I advance the positive aspects and seek to promote the positive aspects - I have faith in the positive aspects of human nature.

You see, you and I come from diffent worlds. My world has soap and water.

Chairman Alexis:

But you are not the delegate, Pierconium. What you are doing contradicts the idea of delegate-centered rule. If Moo cows cannot rule, he should resign and make way for a more active delegate, no? That way, delegate-centered rule stays intact.

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There is a vast difference between Delegate rule and Delegate doing every single job and task. Being an effective leader means empowering those that you trust to do what is in your best interest when you are not around so that they do not have to stand over your shoulder or do have a "hands on" aspect of every minute detail.

The delegation of responsibility is a mark of true leadership, acknowledging when it might be best for others to step in and act in your stead is another. In my various times as leader of a government in this world and others I never hesitated to allow someone that was more skilled as a certain aspect take charge when the need arose so long as it was always understood that ultimately, I had the final say.

In The Pacific, the Delegate has the final say. If I do something on the Delegate's behalf that he disagrees with then he will correct me and the act I took will be reversed or changed.

You really are bad at this aren't you?

Oh, and Roman, don't think that just because I have been absent that my networks have all failed. I still see most of what is said behind closed doors, even here and I know that you think much more highly of yourself and your supposed altruistic motives than most of your compatriots.

But Ivan, Moo Cows serves almost NO function in TP beyond guarding the WFE. You are naive if you expect a delegate-centered culture to form if the delegate does not have a large presence himself.

Your region is going to have to overcome the contradiction between delegate-centered rule and a non-delegate carrying out the most important tasks or the trolls will continue to swarm your rmb.

Yes?

Delegation is one of the keys to effective leadership, that is true. Attracting and promoting qualified individuals to serve is certainly another. A leader that can do both with great success does not need to be overly involved. And it avoids the mistake of micromanagement.

Chairman Alexis:

But Ivan, Moo Cows serves almost NO function in TP beyond guarding the WFE. You are naive if you expect a delegate-centered culture to form if the delegate does not have a large presence himself.

Your region is going to have to overcome the contradiction between delegate-centered rule and a non-delegate carrying out the most important tasks or the trolls will continue to swarm your rmb.

Yes?

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I will give you some leniency because you are evidently relatively new to this world in regards to what you believe I may be in regards to what is currently happening in The Pacific. I can assure you, of everything that I could be, naive isn't one of them.

I have never placed too much concern into what is said on the RMB. Protestors have never concerned me.

Does Moo even control the WFE?

John Ashcroft Land:

Does Moo even control the WFE?

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The Delegate controls the WFE in all feeders.

Pierconium:

Chairman Alexis:

But you are not the delegate, Pierconium. What you are doing contradicts the idea of delegate-centered rule. If Moo cows cannot rule, he should resign and make way for a more active delegate, no? That way, delegate-centered rule stays intact.

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There is a vast difference between Delegate rule and Delegate doing every single job and task. Being an effective leader means empowering those that you trust to do what is in your best interest when you are not around so that they do not have to stand over your shoulder or do have a "hands on" aspect of every minute detail.

The delegation of responsibility is a mark of true leadership, acknowledging when it might be best for others to step in and act in your stead is another. In my various times as leader of a government in this world and others I never hesitated to allow someone that was more skilled as a certain aspect take charge when the need arose so long as it was always understood that ultimately, I had the final say.

In The Pacific, the Delegate has the final say. If I do something on the Delegate's behalf that he disagrees with then he will correct me and the act I took will be reversed or changed.

You really are bad at this aren't you?

Oh, and Roman, don't think that just because I have been absent that my networks have all failed. I still see most of what is said behind closed doors, even here and I know that you think much more highly of yourself and your supposed altruistic motives than most of your compatriots.

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You, sir, are a tin-horn.

All of your networks are defunct and only live on in your twisted, delusional imagination.

Democracy always prevails and that simple fact must have you constantly changing your knickers.


IOW, every time some idiot pulls a fascist takeover, they get beat like a rented mule.

Romanoffia:

Pierconium:

Chairman Alexis:

But you are not the delegate, Pierconium. What you are doing contradicts the idea of delegate-centered rule. If Moo cows cannot rule, he should resign and make way for a more active delegate, no? That way, delegate-centered rule stays intact.

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There is a vast difference between Delegate rule and Delegate doing every single job and task. Being an effective leader means empowering those that you trust to do what is in your best interest when you are not around so that they do not have to stand over your shoulder or do have a "hands on" aspect of every minute detail.

The delegation of responsibility is a mark of true leadership, acknowledging when it might be best for others to step in and act in your stead is another. In my various times as leader of a government in this world and others I never hesitated to allow someone that was more skilled as a certain aspect take charge when the need arose so long as it was always understood that ultimately, I had the final say.

In The Pacific, the Delegate has the final say. If I do something on the Delegate's behalf that he disagrees with then he will correct me and the act I took will be reversed or changed.

You really are bad at this aren't you?

Oh, and Roman, don't think that just because I have been absent that my networks have all failed. I still see most of what is said behind closed doors, even here and I know that you think much more highly of yourself and your supposed altruistic motives than most of your compatriots.

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You, sir, are a tin-horn.

All of your networks are defunct and only live on in your twisted, delusional imagination.

Democracy always prevails and that simple fact must have you constantly changing your knickers.


IOW, every time some idiot pulls a fascist takeover, they get beat like a rented mule.

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I find you of all people claiming me to be delusional to be most amusing. Careful, the vitriolic emotional state of your responses will have you drooling.

You have always failed at baiting me, perhaps you should stick to those that enjoy random spouts of immature flaming?

The simple fact is that ultimately democracy only survives in a feeder if the Delegate wishes it. The Pacific is not democratic and hasn't been so for years. Same with the East. To a great degree it was so in the South for a long period of time.

The North is only democratic now because I got bored and for no other reason.

You think you can intimidate me with the threat of democracy. Surely you must be joking.

As to the rest, I am fairly certain that even someone of your comprehension levels can understand that I don't make claims that are untrue. I still have active information networks all over this world. I always have.

Oh, dry up and bust. Go peddle your wares in a tiny little region where someone might actually be buying.

Until you can can say something that is new and somewhat enlightening, don't bother saying anything because no one is listening.

I can handle anything, but being bored by the same old song and dance.

Romanoffia:

Oh, dry up and bust. Go peddle your wares in a tiny little region where someone might actually be buying.

Until you can can say something that is new and somewhat enlightening, don't bother saying anything because no one is listening.

I can handle anything, but being bored by the same old song and dance.

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*sigh*

No.

Pierconium:

Romanoffia:

Oh, dry up and bust. Go peddle your wares in a tiny little region where someone might actually be buying.

Until you can can say something that is new and somewhat enlightening, don't bother saying anything because no one is listening.

I can handle anything, but being bored by the same old song and dance.

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*sigh*

No.

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That request was rhetorical, of course.

Now excuse me whilst I force you into a non adversarial position.