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Namyeknom

Namyeknom

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It's been a while since we've had a good ADN related argument, so when I saw this, I thought of TNP...

Written by Northern Chittowa, originally posted on the Lazarus forum (Link)

ADN to be disbanded

Following a summer of high inactivity, rumours have started to circulate about the future of Nationstates oldest and largest defender organisation, the Alliance Defence Network.

It is rumoured that Pope Hope, Director of the ADN, has announced plans to disband, and then refound the organisation under a different name, in order to ‘Bring life back into the defender world, and to once again unite freedom loving nations under one banner’

Founded in the summer of 2003 in response to the Atlantic Alliance invader group, the ADN has become one of the most well known and influential organisations to have graced NS. Despite consisting of a number of high profile member regions, including The Youngworld, The Rejected Realms and Nasicournia, the organisation has had its fair share of critics, who often state that despite their size, they can be quite incompetent out on the field. Others state that the only thing the ADN really care about is to expand their political influence across NS, which has dwindled following their bout of inactivity this last year.

These concerns have been echoed by a number of different nations, ranging from raiders to defenders, who have stated that The ADN are all about expanding their power and influence to gain more puppet regions to add to their collection.

Pope Hope has stressed however that this new organisation will be different due to more emphasis being placed upon regional and national sovereignty, allowing nations to be as active or inactive as they wish, with all military matters being kept under sole control of the regional leaders. She has stated that the new organisation will be ‘more of a pooling of information and resources’

However questions have been raised as to how this new organisation will be any different to its predecessor if the current members of the ADN are the ones who are set to create it.

The idea has been universally slammed by many critics of the ADN as just a cover and that nothing will change, with many just seeing it as a re-branded version of the ADN, however its supporters are of the opinion that this will be an opportunity to begin again.
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So, what do you think? New hope, or New Labour? Rejuvenation or regurgitation?

edit: Or just the rumour mill going into overdrive? The glory of the ADN shall never perish! etc, etc,
 
The ADN isnt Disbanding

Or just the rumour mill going into overdrive? The glory of the ADN shall never perish! etc, etc,
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...exactly :)
 
Ronin Warriors:
The ADN isnt Disbanding

Or just the rumour mill going into overdrive? The glory of the ADN shall never perish! etc, etc,
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...exactly :)
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Both bits of that? Or just the rumour mill part? :D

And, to throw another question out there, could the ADN re-invent itself in a manner that would silence its critics, or has too much water passed under that bridge?
 
Both bits of that? Or just the rumour mill part?
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Both of course :D

And, to throw another question out there, could the ADN re-invent itself in a manner that would silence its critics, or has too much water passed under that bridge?
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everyones a critic :P
 
Well, if it's any indication, they're building new forums here? and I do believe there's a proposal for a new Charter on the table, though I haven't heard of how it's progressing. So yeah, I'd say they're not dead...yet.
 
From what I infered from the article I read, Popey is back (she certainly managed to vote aye on the absurd treason bill 1st time round <_< ) and shes heading up the "FRA".

If it works, same crap different day.

Or rather, old crap, different name
 
Fulhead Land:
From what I infered from the article I read, Popey is back (she certainly managed to vote aye on the absurd treason bill 1st time round <_< ) and shes heading up the "FRA".

If it works, same crap different day.

Or rather, old crap, different name
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I can assure you she is not heading up the FRA as im a co-founder of it :P I dont even think she is on the FRA forums.
 
I say again, we have nothing to do with Pope Hope. She is more then welcome if she wishes to come to the FRA, however we are not 'ruled' by her, nor have we had much contact with her. The only link we have to the ADN is the Young World, who have just been accepted into the FRA, othr then that, we are not the same organisation.

We have certain members from that org, yet we also have some from TITO, the RLA, and others as well.
 
and shes heading up the "FRA".
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An interesting devolpment, so I am a Blonde american lady by the name of Heather?

Thing is...i dont feel any different and i could of sworn i was still ronan this morning.

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If the ADN wishes to submit an application however the assembly will consider it
 
QUOTE (Great Bights Mum @ Jan 13 2007, 01:14 AM)
Am i the only one picturing Byard in a blonde wig and a silk dress?

No comment
 
@ GBM and Nam - if either of you managed to keep your lunch down,you're made of sterner stuff than I. :lol:


But, now that I think about it . . .

I am blonde.

I am an American Midwesterner.

I have spent time in Iowa.

I did have a nation in Nasicournia.

I was closely involved with Stars of Sky.

I did run a region full of defender-sympathizers.

I do eat little invader children who don't properly switch their puppets or leave fart jokes on RMBs.

I do enjoy tacos.


Eerie . . .
 
Anyway, steering things back on topic...

*Namyeknom furiously paddles upsteam.

Would people say that the game has changed enough that the original concepts under which the ADN was founded are no longer valid? Does the defender world need a new organisation, with new thinking and a clean slate?

edit - unless you haven't guessed already, i know virtually nothing about all of this, so if that makes no sense, or is irrelevant, tell me. :D
 
Namyeknom:
Anyway, steering things back on topic...

*Namyeknom furiously paddles upsteam.

Would people say that the game has changed enough that the original concepts under which the ADN was founded are no longer valid? Does the defender world need a new organisation, with new thinking and a clean slate?

edit - unless you haven't guessed already, i know virtually nothing about all of this, so if that makes no sense, or is irrelevant, tell me. :D
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When I was an ADN member I remember it being a very efficient defender organization. There would be more there a couple defense missions in one night, and they would be successes. And this was before invader delegates had influence to run out of.

I think the defense concepts, at least those in place when I was a member about a year ago, are still very much valid. However, I believe the result of the inactivity there is perhaps reason for a new such organization.
 
Winter Vacationers:
Apollo-Industria:
No comment. I could really care less. No offense to the ADN, but my invader genes still flow through me.
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OTOH, it would make things more interesting if the invaders had some opposition. The biggest threat my invader naton has faced lately was boredom.
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:rofl: I've already gotten in too much trouble for once flame-baiting and another time for "flaming Fleming". I thought it was quite funny. However, Hersfold's probably pulled out his Mod Gun by now and is about to shoot me so I'm gonna shut up.
 
One of the problems that defender orgs will always face is the concerns of regional soverieignty and local command vs. the good of the organization. With sovereignty being such an important issue in the defender/invader dynamic, asking a region to contribute to a group that may not benefit that region can feel a bit hypocritical.
 
Especially for defenders because invaders, we go by our name: We invade. Now, Roman Empire is a bit more lenient. They let a native govern the region for them. This decreases the chance of revolution.
 
I await to see the way ADN mark 2 decides who is in need of defence. Founderless regions truely being invaded? Founderless regions anyway? feeders? or simply just the npo?
 
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