Flowing water on Mars!

There was a lot of speculation once NASA scheduled a news conference for BREAKING news on Mars. Seems as if the rumors were true and there is evidence of flowing water on Mars, that is recent flowing water.

NASA:
NASA photographs have revealed bright new deposits seen in two gullies on Mars that suggest water carried sediment through them sometime during the past seven years.

"These observations give the strongest evidence to date that water still flows occasionally on the surface of Mars," said Michael Meyer, lead scientist for NASA's Mars Exploration Program, Washington.

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Liquid water, as opposed to the water ice and water vapor known to exist at Mars, is considered necessary for life. The new findings heighten intrigue about the potential for microbial life on Mars. The Mars Orbiter Camera on NASA's Mars Global Surveyor provided the new evidence of the deposits in images taken in 2004 and 2005.

"The shapes of these deposits are what you would expect to see if the material were carried by flowing water," said Michael Malin of Malin Space Science Systems, San Diego. "They have finger-like branches at the downhill end and easily diverted around small obstacles." Malin is principal investigator for the camera and lead author of a report about the findings published in the journal Science.

The atmosphere of Mars is so thin and the temperature so cold that liquid water cannot persist at the surface. It would rapidly evaporate or freeze. Researchers propose that water could remain liquid long enough, after breaking out from an underground source, to carry debris downslope before totally freezing. The two fresh deposits are each several hundred meters or yards long.

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The light tone of the deposits could be from surface frost continuously replenished by ice within the body of the deposit. Another possibility is a salty crust, which would be a sign of water's effects in concentrating the salts. If the deposits had resulted from dry dust slipping down the slope, they would likely be dark, based on the dark tones of dust freshly disturbed by rover tracks, dust devils and fresh craters on Mars.

Mars Global Surveyor has discovered tens of thousands of gullies on slopes inside craters and other depressions on Mars. Most gullies are at latitudes of 30 degrees or higher. Malin and his team first reported the discovery of the gullies in 2000. To look for changes that might indicate present-day flow of water, his camera team repeatedly imaged hundreds of the sites. One pair of images showed a gully that appeared after mid-2002. That site was on a sand dune, and the gully-cutting process was interpreted as a dry flow of sand.

Today's announcement is the first to reveal newly deposited material apparently carried by fluids after earlier imaging of the same gullies. The two sites are inside craters in the Terra Sirenum and the Centauri Montes regions of southern Mars.

"These fresh deposits suggest that at some places and times on present-day Mars, liquid water is emerging from beneath the ground and briefly flowing down the slopes. This possibility raises questions about how the water would stay melted below ground, how widespread it might be, and whether there's a below-ground wet habitat conducive to life. Future missions may provide the answers," said Malin.

Besides looking for changes in gullies, the orbiter's camera team assessed the rate at which new impact craters appear. The camera photographed approximately 98 percent of Mars in 1999 and approximately 30 percent of the planet was photographed again in 2006. The newer images show 20 fresh impact craters, ranging in diameter from 7 feet (2 meters) to 486 feet (148 meters) that were not present approximately seven years earlier. These results have important implications for determining the ages of features on the surface of Mars. These results also approximately match predictions and imply that Martian terrain with few craters is truly young.

Mars Global Surveyor began orbiting Mars in 1997. The spacecraft is responsible for many important discoveries. NASA has not heard from the spacecraft since early November. Attempts to contact it continue. Its unprecedented longevity has allowed monitoring Mars for over several years past its projected lifetime.

There was also some stuff about new craters that have formed from large impacts and how that will be dangerous when exploration and possible settlement by humans happens. It also allows for parallels between these impacts and ones that could happen on Earth any time. 100 kiloton blast estimated from one. But I wasn't nearly as interested in what that particular scientist said since the one discussing water was first. I want to drink some of that water! Imagine the powers you would get from the alien microbes within!
 
I was watching that conference on Sky News a while ago. very interesting stuff.


But its like they say at the start "water on mars!" which has everyone thinking sustainable life...then they hit us with "but if you do stay there, you'll get hit by falling debris"
 
Yeah, but honestly who really gave any attention to the guy talking about falling debris? Evidence of flowing water on Mars is a hard act to follow.

I heard about the news conference, and the speculation, that was to be aired at 1 so being the space nerd I am I watched it on the NASA site which has really high quality streaming video. All the news channels here were going on about the Iraq war report. :(

Now all we need are some nukes and some algae and we can start terraforming for the arrival of a crack team of Mars explorers headed by Val Kilmer and his crazy robot.
 
But its like they say at the start "water on mars!" which has everyone thinking sustainable life...then they hit us with "but if you do stay there, you'll get hit by falling debris"
:lol:

It just goes to show that the Universe does have an ironic sense of humor.
 
They're cool images, but I'm not sure that they show that there's liquid water.

Ice has weird properties when it's at low temperature and is getting smacked with ultraviolet light (like on Mars), I read an article before positing that comets could be in an almost-liquid state when they're nearer the sun, and that could allow organic molecules to form.
 
They're cool images, but I'm not sure that they show that there's liquid water.

Ice has weird properties when it's at low temperature and is getting smacked with ultraviolet light (like on Mars), I read an article before positing that comets could be in an almost-liquid state when they're nearer the sun, and that could allow organic molecules to form.
I don't really understand your reasoning? You're saying it could be ice that is "almost liquid"? This liquid flow originated from subterranian sources, possibly aquifers, and flowed downhill diverting around obstacles and branching like flowing water (or some other liquid). Then it evaporated off or froze. That's what I got from the press conference.
 
You know what the first astronauts who land on Mars are going to find?



Jummy Hoffa's body.
:P
 
You should probably bring it to feed the hungry Martian antelope so they don't nip off all of your toes instead.
 
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