Apollo-Industria
TNPer
Eject him or what?
Crackheads try to take over TNP!
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Eject him or what?
Apollo-Industria
TNPer
Another threat:
I wouldn't have minded this so much if he didn't have 270 friggin' endorsements!
The Republic of Naked Innocence
Received: 8 hours ago
Fellow nation of The North Pacific,
I seek to make alliances and to strenghten our region. As such, I have offered you my United Nations endorsement and hope that you will give me yours in return.
I hope that your nation continues to grow and prosper, and I look forward to being able to work together with you in the future
Forever yours,
Naked Innocence
I wouldn't have minded this so much if he didn't have 270 friggin' endorsements!
That first one is pretty bold, considering Gossamer Cornweb told me she would stop gathering endorsements. You know, I just hate being lied to.
Unterwasserseestaat
TNPer
Geez, that's pretty bad. But an ultimatium has been made and neither of them will be a problem tomorrow evening.
Worth bearing in mind that we have recently had a spike both in numbers of new nations in our region and in numbers of UN nations. Any anomaly like that always makes me doubly twitchy.
Monte Ozarka
TNPer
For those who haven't seen yet, GC is no longer in TNP. She has now moved to "The New Social Order" and has been there (as of this posting) for 114 minutes. Does we know if she caught an update, or is she planning to endo-surf?
Heroic Parody
TNPer
What's endo-Surfing?
Apoliges, please indluge a rookie.
Apoliges, please indluge a rookie.
Endosurfing:
Due to the large size of Nationstates, the update determining the new delegates and rankings for each region are not synchronous, but a batch job running once a day, going through regions one at a time.
With skill and luck, one can move between regions during the update, always remaining in a region that isn't updated (or is already updated). This way, the endorsements that should vanish (since the nation is in a different region) are only rendered invisible, but not deleted. When the nation returns to the region, the endorsements reappear.
That's called endosurfing, or update-surfing. Stars of Sky used it quite effectively in last year's revolution. Very dangerous, if used expertly.
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How to detect if Gossamer Cornweb has lost her endorsements:
If you know you gave her an endorsement: Move to the region she is in currently. Then look at her nation page. If your endorsement is listed (even though you haven't endorsed her in the new region), she has avoided the update. If it isn't, the update has cleaned off her endorsements.
Due to the large size of Nationstates, the update determining the new delegates and rankings for each region are not synchronous, but a batch job running once a day, going through regions one at a time.
With skill and luck, one can move between regions during the update, always remaining in a region that isn't updated (or is already updated). This way, the endorsements that should vanish (since the nation is in a different region) are only rendered invisible, but not deleted. When the nation returns to the region, the endorsements reappear.
That's called endosurfing, or update-surfing. Stars of Sky used it quite effectively in last year's revolution. Very dangerous, if used expertly.
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How to detect if Gossamer Cornweb has lost her endorsements:
If you know you gave her an endorsement: Move to the region she is in currently. Then look at her nation page. If your endorsement is listed (even though you haven't endorsed her in the new region), she has avoided the update. If it isn't, the update has cleaned off her endorsements.
Fulhead Land
TNPer
Monte Ozarka
TNPer
Fedele
TNPer
I'm not trying to argue, though. I love the whole "run away and stick your tongue out at the dictator saying 'NA-na-na-na-boo-boo! You can't catch me!
" but I don't think it is especially effective in unseating the said dictator.
Monte Ozarka
TNPer
Yeah, endo-surfing purely for the sake of retaining what endos you have is pretty pointless. The danger lies in the hypothetical situation of the nation surfing through regions where it slowly picks up endos from nations that then move to the target area. And then, we reach the problem of trying to move a large number of UN nations into a region unseen. Of course, you could get all those UN nations to stagger resigning from the UN before moving in and reapplying for the UN after a staying in the region a bit. At that point, the operational security required in such a hypothetical situation would be unattainable and the level of execution perfect.I'm not trying to argue, though. I love the whole "run away and stick your tongue out at the dictator saying 'NA-na-na-na-boo-boo! You can't catch me!
The above rambling courtesy of MO's crazy brain during one particularly boring bio seminar.
Unterwasserseestaat
TNPer
I still have Gossamer's endorsers of this morning, before she left the region. Any of these would show up on her endorsement list if the nation were to move to her current region - if she is endosurfing.
So if your nation is in this list, perhaps try this. You can return immediately afterwards, just look at GC's nation page first to see if your endorsement shows up.
Of course, this doesn't work if The New Social Order is password-protected.
So if your nation is in this list, perhaps try this. You can return immediately afterwards, just look at GC's nation page first to see if your endorsement shows up.
Of course, this doesn't work if The New Social Order is password-protected.
Apollo-Industria
TNPer
I first endorsed her, then realizing how many endos she had, retracted it.
dont pick it up
TNPer
hahah I loved the link unter