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El Fiji Grande has nominated Fish. 5 votes required to put Fish on the block

  • Aye - Vote for Fish’s Execution

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Nay/Abstain

    Votes: 1 100.0%

  • Aye - Vote for Z

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
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Also I have no alliances. I am not allied to Fish. I primarily wanted Sophia and Nor.Cheek to answer back about their roles so we can confirm Fish is lying which Sophia and Nor.Cheek confirmed that Fish is indeed lying. I am also 100% Virgin.
 
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Good morning town! We all wake up to day 2 relaxed and in a good mood. Well, all except @Nor.Cheek who was found dead in bed. Not out of tiredness, but the cause of something else. Maybe from the fangs of a blood-thirsty demon? Go figure! You are quite an active bunch so I'm going to end the day in 24 hours at (time=1778248800) unless I hear any nominations. You may nominate at any time until the day ends and there may be multiple votes at once fyi.

A quick explanation of the image. The black marker on some tokens indicates the dead people and if the dead person has a hand on their token, it means they can still utilise their single dead vote. The people with blank, white tokens are still alive.
 
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After very extensive research, I can say that the culprits are Halsoni and Fiji. Allow me to explain.

Halsoni - ??? (Imp/Minion)
NorCheek - Undertaker (Townsfolk)
El Fiji - ??? (Imp/Minion)
Bharat - ??? (Townsfolk)
Sophia - Empath (Townsfolk)
Fish - ??? (Outsider)
KGR - Fortune Teller (Townsfolk)
Disney - Virgin (Townsfolk)
Arty - ??? (Outsider)

1 Demon, 1 minion, 2 Outsiders, 5 Townsfolk.

Here is my reasoning. Throughout the first day, the only person I spoke with was Fiji. During the First Night, I searched used my abilities on Halsoni and Arty, which showed me that One of them was the demon. After consulting with Fiji, he convinced me that Halsoni must be the recluse, which I agreed with. After Fish was executed, when the second night began, I investigated Fish and Disney, to find that both of them were not demons.

This is where I was stumped. I thought for a long time, and then I realized, Fiji never gave me his role. For a while, I believed that it was Fish and Bharat. However, I had a lingering suspicion that it was false, so I believed that it was Fiji and Fish, so I decided to tell Halsoni about my findings. He responded to me at first, then remained quiet afterwards. Even then, I felt that the evidence didn't add up, so I spoke with Sophia. She then told me the critical piece of evidence I needed. On the first night, she found both of her neighbors innocent (Nor. Cheek and Fish), and then, last night she found that one of her neighbors were evil (Halsoni and Bharat.) Here I realized that Bharat was innocent, which completely shifted my perspective. I then realized that Halsoni and Fiji were the demon and the minion. It suddenly all makes sense.

Since this has started, Halsoni and Fiji immediately accused each other, most likely to get rid of suspicion. They then diverted the argument onto fish, who couldn't say what his role was due to him being an outsider. Then, last night, they killed Nor Cheek, which was a clever move on their part, as since he was the undertaker, nobody would ever figure out what fish's role would be.
 
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i want to clarify something directly about the above statement by @KGR because my information has apparently been repeated incorrectly. i’m not sure whether it was intentional, think it was just a misunderstanding, but still in need of correction.

on night one, i did not receive confirmation that both neighbors were innocent. i received that one of my neighbors were evil.
 
You're forgiven. I'm inclined to believe it was just an innocent mistake as well. I for one am also very confused, and there's a fair bit of confusion flying around on the whole. I think we're all going to make a few mistakes here and there. Based on our Empath and upon the strange claim and lack of defense Fish made, I still firmly believe Fish was evil. Whether they were a minion or if there was a Scarlet Woman who has become a new demon is less clear, and regardless finding the singular evil remaining is a very tricky task. Likewise, I continue to believe Halsoni's claim, because he is the only person here to have claimed to be an Outsider. If not and he is instead evil, then you have to tell me who the TWO remaining Outsiders would be. I think one is a drunk, and the other one is Halsoni the recluse. I do have a few leads on who the demon might be, but haven't locked it down to the point where I'm confident enough to take a shot in the dark. I think it would be better to give our investigative roles more time to process information than to accidentally eliminate an innocent life today. Hence, I will not be making a nomination unless I feel forced to. Though, if someone is brave enough to nominate Disney who claims Virgin, that might be worth it, because it would rapidly narrow down the remaining possibilities.

Edit: grammar
 
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@Skaraborg
I nominate @Halsoni and @El Fiji Grande for execution , on reading @KGR reading everthing makes sense
I have been talking to Fiji for the past few days and asked him what was his role multiple times and he always ignored my question - he also seems to have weirdly a lot beilef in Halsoni claim on being a recluse despite the fact that Fiji attacked Halsoni in the beginning - i aggree with KGR that Fiji and Halsoni attacking each other was probably a ploy to throw us off.
 
Bharat:
@Skaraborg
I nominate @Halsoni and @El Fiji Grande for execution , on reading @KGR reading everthing makes sense
I have been talking to Fiji for the past few days and asked him what was his role multiple times and he always ignored my question - he also seems to have weirdly a lot beilef in Halsoni claim on being a recluse despite the fact that Fiji attacked Halsoni in the beginning - i aggree with KGR that Fiji and Halsoni attacking each other was probably a ploy to throw us off.
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You can only nominate one person per day so you will have to choose which one
 
@Bharat , did you not see that KGR's logic is completely flawed as a result of his misplaced idea that the Empath claimed that neither Fish nor Nor.Cheek were evil? That's not what Sophia said. She said either Nor.Cheek or Fish is evil, and seeing as Nor.Cheek was killed last night, they are confirmed good. So, if we are to believe the Empath, Fish must have been evil. There are only two evil roles, so it's simply not possible that both Halsoni and I are bad. If you still think it's me, what you're saying is that I deliberately spearheaded a movement against my own partner when few others were suspicious of him. Doesn't that seem unlikely?
 
For the record, I firmly believe either @Bharat or @Halsoni should nominate @Disney. Neither of you have roles that get more information, and therefore the town has the least to lose if you die by nominating the Virgin claim. But that way, the town can confirm without a doubt Disney's claim, and we use the day to get new information. If we do not get new information today, it's basically just a free opportunity for the Imp to kill without consequence.
 
It’s @KGR

I nominate them for execution. I’m the recluse which means I can sometimes show up as evil. The argument that Fiji and I accused each other is nonsense because that was just a bit of fun.
 
Thank you @Bharat ! I appreciate your courage. Your bravery will help us immensely. Either you are safe and we can all hang Disney together, or if you are eliminated we then know someone we can 100% trust and get closer to the truth.

For what it's worth, I also strongly suspect KGR. He is the only one who didn't vote for Fish yesterday, and they could easily be lying in their claims.
 
I can confirm that Sophia is the empath, though this information would've been nice to know sooner.

Halsoni - Recluse (Outsider)
NorCheek - Undertaker (Townsfolk)
El Fiji - ??? (Townsfolk)
Bharat - Investigator (Townsfolk)
Sophia - Empath (Townsfolk)
Fish - ??? (Minion)
KGR - Fortune Teller (Townsfolk)
Disney - ??? (Imp(?))
Arty - ??? (Outsider)

Updated info based on confirmed facts from what I can tell.

Edit: Now it feels like something isn't adding up though.. I would know if Disney would be the imp as I investigated him last night, but he wasn't, as well as fish. They were both seen as innocent for me. Sure, Disney could be the spy, but then wouldn't that make fish innocent? Annoying to think about this.. Sophia claimed that she saw 1 of her neighbors on the first night be suspicious, and it evidently isn't Norcheek, which only leaves fish, but if fish is evil, then that means Disney would be the imp, but in that case, how come Disney didn't come up as suspicious to me?
 
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El Fiji Grande:
For the record, I firmly believe either @Bharat or @Halsoni should nominate @Disney. Neither of you have roles that get more information, and therefore the town has the least to lose if you die by nominating the Virgin claim. But that way, the town can confirm without a doubt Disney's claim, and we use the day to get new information. If we do not get new information today, it's basically just a free opportunity for the Imp to kill without consequence.
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As an update to this... I was wrong. Bharat informed me a few minutes ago that Outsiders do not get executed if they nominate the Virgin. Seeing as how Bharat has not been executed, that leaves two possibilities: either Bharat is an Outsider (likely our town drunk), or Disney is not Virgin as they claim and is instead evil... Or both, I suppose. Regardless, Bharat is confirmed good. The error in my thinking was that I thought this would prove Disney either good or evil, but unfortunately it does not. Still, I commend Bharat for having taken the bold step of making this nomination. We have gained information about him and not wasted today. Personally, I think Disney is actually Virgin and that Bharat is actually drunk. I continue to think Arty is the most likely culprit and will be voting for them. But it's good that I think the three people who could still be evil are the three people we have nominated. It's just a process of elimination now.

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Edit: Skaraborg just clarified the role of the Virgin.
"Yeah so to summarise the virgin.

if the first nominator is either a) evil or b) an outsider, a virgin will not function.

And if the nominator is a townsfolk, the virgin won’t function if the virgin is a) the drunk, b) poisoned by a poisoner or c) evil bluffing as virgin

In all other cases the nominator would be executed immediately and the day would end."
Which means that Bharat could still be evil. I don't think he is. From all my conversations with them, they strike me as good. But it's not conclusive proof. sigh.
 
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To me, it's just a process of elimination at this point. My logic may have flaws, but I've shared my extensive thoughts with a number of people, and they seem to feel similarly that the demon is either KGR, Disney, or you. It's possible that it's Bharat or Sophia, but if so, I've been seriously played. If my logic on the three of you holds true, town can afford to execute one person each day and come out on top in the end. We have enough population that even with a demon kill each night, we can still execute all three and hopefully find the demon in the process.

Why you first? Well, you've been awfully quiet. And your claimed role doesn't bring in any new information. By comparison, while KGR is very suspicious to me - having been the sole person not to vote for Fish - they are valuable to keep around for another night if they are actually innocent. For what it's worth, I strongly suspect KGR, but think that you're very sketchy too, and a lower risk execution.
 
With no further nominations, the person with the most votes is executed. That person is @Arty. When Arty is executed, the dark clouds that have submerged all of Magicality City fades away and the game is over...

I congratulate the good team. You have succesfully executed the demon and win! Here is the full grim:

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That was one rough game for the evil team. Since I wasn't expecting this to end this quickly, we can do another game if there is interest.
 
Congrats, everyone. I think that would have lasted longer had the Evil team prioritized eliminated the threats against them. Namely, Fiji being so active, though I'm honored by my outcome to a certain extent. I was just far from the biggest problem for the Demon. :P
 
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Good game, I had a lot of fun, even if every accusation I made was wrong.

I’m simply just confused on one thing however, I’d appreciate if @Skaraborg could elaborate for me. On the first night, I checked on Halsoni and Arty, and only one appeared as evil to me, does the fortune teller not detect the recluse?
 
The fortune teller’s role reads "Each night, choose 2 players: you learn if either is a Demon. There is a good player that registers as a Demon to you."

You only learn a yes or a no. Either yes, you have found a demon in your pair, or no you haven’t found a demon in your pair.

So when you picked Arty and Ruben you learnt a yes.

As for the recluse’s ability, their ability says that they might register as a demon, minion or evil so it’s basically up to my discretion to choose whether or not to register them as evil/demon/minion. So because you picked the demon I had to give you a yes. But if you checked say Disney and Ruben I could choose whether or not to give a yes or no. Also the red herring was El Fiji Grande btw.
KGR:
Good game, I had a lot of fun, even if every accusation I made was wrong.

I’m simply just confused on one thing however, I’d appreciate if @Skaraborg could elaborate for me. On the first night, I checked on Halsoni and Arty, and only one appeared as evil to me, does the fortune teller not detect the recluse?
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If we do host a next one, please like this post for we know we have interest.

If we do have another one, I will be the storyteller for Skaraborg has a chance to play
 
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