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Sil Dorsett

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I'm sure this has come up a few times in chat, but I'm actually not sure if this has come up in a forum thread. I've had quite a few people on the roleplay server complain about large amounts of whitespace when adding a table. An example of this can be found in this post: https://forum.thenorthpacific.org/topic/9194614/post-10451990, where there's a large amount of space after "Note: ..." and the table that follows. However, if you look at the BB code, there's no such block of whitespace. What's happening is that every carriage return within the
block is being reflected above the table. The only fix is to remove all of the white space, so this...

Code:
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]
[CENTER]Title[/CENTER]
[/TD]

[TD]
[CENTER]Name by which most commonly known[/CENTER]
[/TD]

[TD]
[CENTER]Reign (As according to tradition)[/CENTER]
[/TD]

[TD]
[CENTER]Meaning of Names[/CENTER]
[/TD]

[TD]
[CENTER]Other Names[/CENTER]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kiongozi (Leader/ Chief/ Guide in Old Navish)[/TD]

[TD]Moto[/TD]
[TD]- (Too far to date)[/TD]

[TD]Fire/ Firebon in Old Navish[/TD]

[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kiongozi (Leader/ Chief/ Guide in Old Navish)[/TD]

[TD]Dawa[/TD]
[TD]- (Too far to date)[/TD]

[TD]Medicine/ Diviner in Old Navish[/TD]

[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Kiongozi (Leader/ Chief/ Guide in Old Navish)[/TD]

[TD]Nnguvu[/TD]
[TD]- (Too far to date)[/TD]

[TD]Valorous/ Reckless in Old Navish[/TD]

[TD]-[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

becomes this...

Code:
[TABLE][TR][TD][CENTER]Title[/CENTER][/TD][TD][CENTER]Name by which most commonly known[/CENTER][/TD][TD][CENTER]Reign (As according to tradition)[/CENTER][/TD][TD][CENTER]Meaning of Names[/CENTER][/TD][TD][CENTER]Other Names[/CENTER][/TD][/TR][TR][TD]Kiongozi (Leader/ Chief/ Guide in Old Navish)[/TD][TD]Moto[/TD][TD]- (Too far to date)[/TD][TD]Fire/ Firebon in Old Navish[/TD][TD]-[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]Kiongozi (Leader/ Chief/ Guide in Old Navish)[/TD][TD]Dawa[/TD][TD]- (Too far to date)[/TD][TD]Medicine/ Diviner in Old Navish[/TD][TD]-[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]Kiongozi (Leader/ Chief/ Guide in Old Navish)[/TD][TD]Nnguvu[/TD][TD]- (Too far to date)[/TD][TD]Valorous/ Reckless in Old Navish[/TD][TD]-[/TD][/TR][/TABLE]

This isn't intuitive either, because the forum's own table creation tools make the tables in the wide open format from the first example. Most users are using the table creation tool without realizing that they have to remove all of the carriage returns before posting the table to avoid the big whitespace. This is also why I don't recommend using tables for any of the election results and have resorted to using code blocks for nicer "table" formatting.

Is there any way that this could be looked at so that we can have the human readable table bbcode like we had on ZB without creating all that whitespace?
 
Since this is related to tables, something's now up with the tables which MoWAA uses to count votes in voting threads. The BBCode here is correct, but it's not presenting correctly.

 
Since this is related to tables, something's now up with the tables which MoWAA uses to count votes in voting threads. The BBCode here is correct, but it's not presenting correctly.

There doesn’t seem to be anything special with the formatting of VOTE. Do we really need this or can we just stick with TABLE?
 
There doesn’t seem to be anything special with the formatting of VOTE. Do we really need this or can we just stick with TABLE?
We can probably just stick with Table, but it is really rather inexplicable how it just broke.
 
Update: Talked to r3n about this over Discord. We agreed to simply just use TABLE. The MoWAA's Templates have been updated to reflect this.
 
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