ARCHIVED: Proposal: Revocation of Syrixia's Full Membership

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PROPOSAL:

Resolution:
After monitoring and considering the situations that befall the Syrixian Empire time and time again, the Democratic Union feels steps are necessary to maintain the safekeeping of member nations.

THE DEMOCRATIC UNION THEREFORE RESOLVES-
  1. The Syrixian Empire's full membership in the Democratic Union shall be revoked immediately.
  2. The Syrixian Empire's membership shall be reduced to Observer Status immediately in place.
  3. All obligations that member nations have to the Syrixian Empire, during wartime or otherwise, shall become optional upon the revocation.
  4. This revocation will last until the Syrixian Empire resolves all of its current conflicts and maintains a stable and peaceful government for a month.

This proposal comes before the member of the Democratic Union in an urgent fashion. The last months alone have seen the Syrixian Empire in and out of war with nations across the region, leaving a trail of death and madness in its wake, with no respect for what they have caused. The Delegation of Kialga-Lourti sees this unfit of a disciplined and democratic nation, much less that of a nation who claims to work for peace and democracy world wide. The Syrixian Empire has shown it does not intend to maintain a peaceful approach in any wartime situation, and causes splits among the very members of the Democratic Union. Until a time the Syrixian Empire can maintain a calm and peaceful approach to conflicts, we, the Delegation of Kialga-Lourti, see the Syrixian Empire as unfit to be a full member in this Democratic Union.

We now ask for other delegations to make comments and pose questions.
 
As a non-member, I feel like I'm reading a deja vu proposal that was put to the NPTO a few months back on the same issue. Anyways, I have no say in this matter but I am curious how this turns out.
 
How will this aid the cause of democracy in the world in any way, or send a message to the Syrixian government if that is your wish? It seems the honorable delegation from Kialga has just spent a long vacation in a resort somewhere in the middle of the ocean without internet. You are much too late to criticize the Syrixian Empire over conflicts that have long been resolved. To criticize the Syrixian Empire's entry into the Rhuvish conflict is unreasonable as well -- the conflict, stemming from the fascist regime seated across the Phoenix Strait, was forced on the Empire. The real question is the motives of the honorable delegation of Kialga. The timing of this proposal is questionable -- it comes at the most opportune moment for the enemies of the Democratic Union. Across the region anti-democratic forces are on the offensive, violating national liberties and dignities. The proponents of this proposal would have us abandon the vows of the Democratic Union, our oaths and honor. They would have us allow a brazen attack on a member of the Democratic Union by a brutish barbarian nation. That is not the Democratic Union. The Democratic Union are not cowards.
 
My apologies to the Kannex delegate, but I stated no where that the Democratic Union were cowards. And quite frankly, no proponent of the proposal would allow a member of this Union to be attacked by a barbarian nation. This proposal is quite sensible, and removes a barbaric nation from our own ranks. The Syrixian Empire was no forced into conflict in Rhuvanland, they opted to join the conflict. Kialga-Lourti, via the Cetus Administrative District, has remained neutral in many a conflict by simply defending our own borders. There is no reason that Syrixia should have to enter conflict across the Strait should they defend their own borders. Should the Kannex delegation wish to question the timing of a proposal that has been a long time coming, then be my guest. It is time this Empire be removed from full membership before its actions reflect poorly upon those sensible nations left in the Democratic Union.
 
Nightsong:
As a non-member, I feel like I'm reading a deja vu proposal that was put to the NPTO a few months back on the same issue. Anyways, I have no say in this matter but I am curious how this turns out.

As a non-member, why Ambassador, are you addressing a Democratic Union proposal?
Kannex:
How will this aid the cause of democracy in the world in any way, or send a message to the Syrixian government if that is your wish? It seems the honorable delegation from Kialga has just spent a long vacation in a resort somewhere in the middle of the ocean without internet. You are much too late to criticize the Syrixian Empire over conflicts that have long been resolved. To criticize the Syrixian Empire's entry into the Rhuvish conflict is unreasonable as well -- the conflict, stemming from the fascist regime seated across the Phoenix Strait, was forced on the Empire. The real question is the motives of the honorable delegation of Kialga. The timing of this proposal is questionable -- it comes at the most opportune moment for the enemies of the Democratic Union. Across the region anti-democratic forces are on the offensive, violating national liberties and dignities. The proponents of this proposal would have us abandon the vows of the Democratic Union, our oaths and honor. They would have us allow a brazen attack on a member of the Democratic Union by a brutish barbarian nation. That is not the Democratic Union. The Democratic Union are not cowards.

I would caution the Ambassador from Kannex against using such openly inflammatory and racist language towards the nation of Naizerre as a 'brutish' and 'barbarian language'. This is clearly a very racist characterization of a culture that does not comply with your own Eastern-elistist culture.

I'd also remind the Ambassador that any member of this body may propose a motion at any time. It does not need to be immediately after the particular incident. No matter is dealt with by this body immediately after an incident. In fact, I'd almost suggest that has never happened.

Kialga:
My apologies to the Kannex delegate, but I stated no where that the Democratic Union were cowards. And quite frankly, no proponent of the proposal would allow a member of this Union to be attacked by a barbarian nation. This proposal is quite sensible, and removes a barbaric nation from our own ranks. The Syrixian Empire was no forced into conflict in Rhuvanland, they opted to join the conflict. Kialga-Lourti, via the Cetus Administrative District, has remained neutral in many a conflict by simply defending our own borders. There is no reason that Syrixia should have to enter conflict across the Strait should they defend their own borders. Should the Kannex delegation wish to question the timing of a proposal that has been a long time coming, then be my guest. It is time this Empire be removed from full membership before its actions reflect poorly upon those sensible nations left in the Democratic Union.

The Syrixian Empire has been liberalising and has been achieving political stability. I do not support this motion at this time.
 
Mcmasterdonia:
I would caution the Ambassador from Kannex against using such openly inflammatory and racist language towards the nation of Naizerre as a 'brutish' and 'barbarian language'. This is clearly a very racist characterization of a culture that does not comply with your own Eastern-elistist culture.

I'd also remind the Ambassador that any member of this body may propose a motion at any time. It does not need to be immediately after the particular incident. No matter is dealt with by this body immediately after an incident. In fact, I'd almost suggest that has never happened.

There is no racism in calling a barbaric nation a barbaric nation. We hold no grudge towards the people of Naizerre, but the unprovoked declaration of war against a member state of the Democratic Union clearly indicates that this country has no intention of adhering to the international standards of decency. We say this not as a member of the so-called "Eastern bloc" you have drawn up for the sake of your fictitious worldview, but as a proud, democratic nation of the Democratic Union. Syrixia has long settled its conflicts with Nebula. We will see peace, if these nations would agree to it.
 
For the benefit of those who are less attentive to these affairs and/or embark on an isolationist foreign policy, could a detailed summary of events be provided that led to the submission of this proposal, please.
 
Perhaps this and why this entire situation occurred is best explained by those who have done it.

In 2010, Amitabh Bhargava was elected as Prime Minister of Syrixia. The previous Prime Minister, Abishek Bedi, was known as a pensive leader, yet also weak and indecisive. Bhargava took advantage of the people's anger for their leader and the fact that the Syrixian democracy had only existed for 4 years and this was all new to the people. He promised them a revitalization of the Empire and eternal glory. In reality, this was his plan; but it was the way he did it that was wrong. The old way of times long past. He set out to conquer.

Before the fall of the old Syrixian Empire to communists in 1917, Syrixia and the Kingdom of Rhuvanland had good relations. Eventually Rhuvanland too fell to a conspiracy in the favor of an oligarchy in 1933, and Syrixia and Rhuvanland by then had strained, tense relations. Bhargava, on the grounds that he wished to rekindle friendship between Rhuvanland and Syrixia and help protect Rhuvanland due to an economic crisis caused by the oligarchy's corruption that crippled the country, stepped in and made Rhuvanland a Syrixian protectorate due to a deal between Bhargava and the oligarchy. Eventually the anti-oligarchist ringleaders, who had been plotting against the oligarchy for years, moved to western Rhuvanland, where there was a cry for freedom. Rhuvanland was partitioned into the free west and the Syrixian east.

Eventually when Rhuvanland was reunified, the first Great War started, when Nebula declared war on Rhuvanland. Hoping to gain more hegemony, Bhargava founded the Helmebaine Alliance and declared support for Rhuvanland. He started a fierce anticommunist platform against Nebula, hoping to use Nebula to gain world hegemony. Instead, most of the international community was angry, along with the Syrixian people, most of whom wanted Bhargava impeached. After the Great War ended, Bhargava went to a conference with Syrixian corporate leaders at a power plant in northeast Syrixia, hoping to escape protesters outside Parliament Hall. It was there that assassins from a foreign land, most likely one of the former rebel groups in McMasterdonia due to DNA testing on guns found after the deed was done, killed Bhargava and blew up the plant.

After Bhargava died, a special election put Rohit Kumar into office. Kumar's platform was to patch things up. He liberalized the nation, disbanded the Helmebaine Alliance, made peace with Nebula (even signing a mutual defense agreement with them), started replacing fossil fuels with alternative energy, and stabilizing the nation. Rhuvanland, meanwhile, did not fare as well. The Nazos rose in Rhuvanland and eventually invaded Tajis. Wanting to assist the Allies and put the last nail in Bhargava's expansionist coffin, Syrixia under Kumar declared support for the Allies officially.

It is true that Syrixia has done regrettable and disgusting actions, but it is also true that it has tried to patch up those actions with large success, and now is a stable democracy and a true member of the international community. Revoking Syrixian DU membership would not only severely damage Syrixia's hopes of righting the past's wrongs, but it would also make Syrixia alone once more, surrounded by those who shun it.

I ask the delegation of Kialga, in the name of all that is good and right, withhold this proposal. Now that it knows the full story, does Kialga wish to help Syrixia right its wrongs and end this new war or does it wish to create more problems? Moreover, does Kialga wish the defeat of the Nazos, Allied victory, and an end to the war or does it not?
 
My apologies to the Syrixian delegation, but we will not withhold this proposal. As it is stated in the proposal, the Syrixian Empire will not be removed fully from the Democratic Union, but will have its full membership replaced with an observer status. The Syrixians will remain a member of the Democratic Union, but their decisions will not reflect on all other members of the organization.

In response to the questioning of our motives, we do wish to help the Syrixians right the wrongs they have created. We do wish to defeat the Rhuvish Nazo blight that plagues the region. We do not wish, however, to have every issue of the Syrixians being brought onto those in the Democratic Union who wish not to. The Syrixians need help, that is no lie, but it shouldn't be a requirement for anyone. It should be optional to those who have the ability, and the willingness, to help the Syrixians right the wrongs it has committed.
 
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