Refugee camp rp idea

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So as part of the McM political crisis, Anola and Ravenscrown have agreed to establish refugee camps within their national borders. I have asked that the Du fund these and administer them. I was wondering if people would be interested in roleplaying as refugees, DU soldiers, or other people involved in the administration of a refugee camp. Given the massive refugee issues IRL at teh moment, I thought some might find this interesting. This RP would not be tightly controlled and people could do largely what they liked, hopefully keeping deaths and other horrifying crimes to a minimum.

Any interest?
 
Arcadia Bay was set up as a refugee camp for the Cronaal after Smithworks; several Rhuvish came during their war. I haven't really used the place much though.
 
Okay? :P

Well this would occur most likely in Ravenscrown or Anola. Just wanted to see if people were interested in having a go at RPing characters involved in that.
 
I feel like with the Novrith Conference and everything I've been neglecting Floresque. I was thinking of a scenario like this, maybe:

In modern times, polio is nearly eradicated. Soon after McMasterdonians are pushed into refugee camps en masse, however, cases of infantile meningitis and paralysis associated with polio begin to crop up in several camps. A Floregasque doctor and public health official is among those working in the camps and has to work against the disease, devoutly Flemingovian refugees opposed to vaccination, and government officials who worry about the disease spreading to their own citizens.
 
Myroria:
I feel like with the Novrith Conference and everything I've been neglecting Floresque. I was thinking of a scenario like this, maybe:

In modern times, polio is nearly eradicated. Soon after McMasterdonians are pushed into refugee camps en masse, however, cases of infantile meningitis and paralysis associated with polio begin to crop up in several camps. A Floregasque doctor and public health official is among those working in the camps and has to work against the disease, devoutly Flemingovian refugees opposed to vaccination, and government officials who worry about the disease spreading to their own citizens.
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I could do a Sadakhan volunteer working with this effort, who has real problems helping Flemingovians, even the ones not aligned with Gunrei.
 
I'd most certainly play as a refugee.

Possibilities may be someone from the McM-Anola border who's been effected by both nation's recent events or somebody who's spent months trying to escape the conflict.
 
Cool. I don't really want to have to moderate this too much myself, so I'll probably wait for the DU to decide what the hell it is doing and then open the thread. It'll be pretty much free for all except for the setting.
 
The Empire will gladly accept refugees and will cooperate with McMasterdonia as/if needed.
 
Unlikely to be looking for resettlement of refugees at this point. Just establishing the camps and then RPing their inner workings.
 
I could play, perhaps, a Paxcist McMasterdonian refugee, from Port Augusta? Perhaps someone de facto the representative of the small Paxcist diaspora from that city.

Alternatively, maybe an Imperium military researcher - crisis management is a field of interest for us.
 
Could I play a group of Syrixian delivery men bringing in supplies and food from Pataliputra? Or is it play-as-refugees-only? Because Syrixia did recognize King Richard II and Queen Amira and wrote a large message about it but there was no reaction.
 
Yeah, you can do that. I'm pretty easy goiing with this rp, so have at it guys!

And good point - I should write a reaction to the recognition statements.
 
I will eventually post. :) I just have to have this election thing over with, because technically Norsex still doesn't have a government. :P
 
I'm joining in on this. I made the announcement yesterday about medical ships docking in, and I will be writing another reply later on, this time in the role of characters rather than as the nation.
 
Sounds great. Characters are more fun.

I intend to introduce my character late this week. I'll be RPing as a wounded teenager, forced to care for their siblings as their parents were killed.
 
I might join in as a worker or guard at the camp, having to deal with the limited supplies and tough decisions as a result?
 
Would there be much interest / need for assistance from my people (nation)? I would like to get involved. I would in addition like to possibly RP some refugees.

We would be open to accepting refugees in our nation and caring for others who remain behind.
 
Thinking that hound will not hunt. Is there a particular post you believe to be tasteless or handles the situation poorly?

To run this line of reasoning that to write about a subject that happens is tasteless would mean that nationstates in general is tasteless, model united nations is extremely tasteless, and fiction stories on similar subjects are also tasteless. Flem, though I haven't read everything related to the political crisis, I don't recall a post that indecently handled the situation.

I believe it would be tasteless if people handled the situation in a manner that was disrespectful of the situation. e.g. directly paralleled reality with the storyline so they can purposefully make cruel or crude remarks and such about the people's plight. This is not happening from what I have seen. There may be some that for moving the story forward play as an actor a particular part in the story line as an antagonist, but as long as it's handled in a manner that does not dismiss the reality of refugees or their plight or make attempt to slander or make fun of or racially slur real people then there should be no issue. I don't recall anyone attempting to slur/slander/make light of real people's situation.
 
Sorry, but the hound is hunting. It is probable that you have never been in a refugee camp, or had anything to do with refugees. So let me give an analogy.... If I suggested roleplaying a mass shooting in Paris, or in a daycare centre party, it is probable a number of people would be posting similar questions.

For each of us there will be subjects or issues that we consider it unsuitable or tasteless to use as a basis for playtime. My original question was to see whether there were others out there who found the refugee crisis to be one of those.
 
flemingovia:
Sorry, but the hound is hunting. It is probable that you have never been in a refugee camp, or had anything to do with refugees. So let me give an analogy.... If I suggested roleplaying a mass shooting in Paris, or in a daycare centre party, it is probable a number of people would be posting similar questions.

For each of us there will be subjects or issues that we consider it unsuitable or tasteless to use as a basis for playtime. My original question was to see whether there were others out there who found the refugee crisis to be one of those.
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I think Kannex using the Paris attacks as inspiration for the Manhatt attacks was beyond brilliant. Remember, we are RPing as nations, that have people in them. This world is not la-la-land. Bad things must happen or else Eras is an unrealistic place. People died in both Manhatt and Paris. Yes, Manhatt's people are virtual people, but we are RPing them as people; and so they should not be exempt from the things our world has to deal with. And, by using a tragedy that really happened as inspiration, we can enable ourselves to empathize much more than we could if it was an original idea. I believe that Kannex is not being insensitive; but is instead being bold and true. And I commend him for it.
 
The Manhatt attack and the subsequent Kannexan public response are logical reactions to a refugee crisis caused by a large sectarian war abroad.
 
flemingovia:
Sorry, but the hound is hunting. It is probable that you have never been in a refugee camp, or had anything to do with refugees. So let me give an analogy.... If I suggested roleplaying a mass shooting in Paris, or in a daycare centre party, it is probable a number of people would be posting similar questions.

For each of us there will be subjects or issues that we consider it unsuitable or tasteless to use as a basis for playtime. My original question was to see whether there were others out there who found the refugee crisis to be one of those.
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What I'm saying is the 'hound that won't hunt' is the concept that you can not write about a subject without being disrespectful is nonsense. Also it's silly to think that we should not write about these subjects with dignity and fair treatment as they can help us to understand the issues and emotions more fully. It's also It's also not true that you can't understand a subject without direct experience. Can you know the whole experience without direct experience, no. Do you need to know the whole experience to relate or convey? No. There are many authors who soulfully have created honorable fiction/stories on these very subjects and somehow were never refugees themselves and in some cases never personally knew refugees.

Was "Uncle Tom's Cabin" distasteful 'playtime' rather than being useful in showing the plight of a people. What about the fiction stories about the holocaust in the holocaust museum library written by non-victims? Again, do you have a particular post you're finding objectionable?

"If I suggested roleplaying a mass shooting in Paris,..." Paris does not exist in TNP, and YOUR motives for RPing a mass shooting specifically in Paris and of this type seem questionable. Would it be OK to ever RP a mass shooting? War? Famine? Piracy? Theft? Fill in the whole range of all that's wrong with this world. Unless TNP is going to be RPing tea parties and cupcakes I think it's a safe bet that there will be some similarities between incidents, but as long as it's properly treated then it should not be distasteful.

"It is probable that you have never been in a refugee camp, or had anything to do with refugees." Ill give you that I've never been a refugee myself, but you'd be wrong about having anything to do with refugees. My family originally came here to the US as refugees. Grew up with refugees as neighbors and friends and many in my community and school. Family, church, and school provided community, and assistance to refugees. I even had a chance to hear the stories of refugees from past conflicts including my neighbors who were concentration camp survivors and survivors of other atrocities. Neighbors that experienced being refugees in Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and even Europe.
Even after I grew up and left home I'm still making friends with refugees, hearing their stories, helping them where, when, and how I can. (Making friends and providing assistance to refugees from Sudan, Iraq, etc. here in the USA and sending help abroad.)

Properly treating a subject isn't necessarily 'playtime' but instead can be used to help others to understand the issues people face in these situations, and the emotional experience of the subject, and can lead us to have more compassion, knowledge, and lead us to help in ending these situations.
 
flemingovia:
Sorry, but the hound is hunting. It is probable that you have never been in a refugee camp, or had anything to do with refugees. So let me give an analogy.... If I suggested roleplaying a mass shooting in Paris, or in a daycare centre party, it is probable a number of people would be posting similar questions.

For each of us there will be subjects or issues that we consider it unsuitable or tasteless to use as a basis for playtime. My original question was to see whether there were others out there who found the refugee crisis to be one of those.
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Flem, the refugee crisis is something that has tied into my civil war which has been brewing for more than a year. We've had refugee crisis's for many parts of the 20th and 21st century. The Syrian one is particularly terrible, but fortunately, no TNPers are roleplaying the negative "Get out of here" attitude that RL politicians are.

Terrorism, war, violence, oppression, etc, all of these things happen in the real world and in role play. It wouldn't work that well if we all RP'd as tropical paradises where nothing bad ever happened.
 
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