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17. All registered citizens residing in The North Pacific may request information from the Government through the Delegate and the designated officers of the Executive.
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I would like to request the declassification and release of the Executive Council meeting log from November 29th, 2012.

I can provide the material directly to the Delegate and/or Court for review, on request.
 
As with the other, because there is no longer any security or other regional purpose to keeping it classified, in my view.

It's a hole in the record of that period which we don't need.
 
This has been released here.

I am including a copy below, for ease of commentary:

#tnp-cabinet:
[(time=1354236900)] --- Eluvatar changed mode: +si
[(time=1354236960)] <Eluvatar> Would Windy and Mahaj please kindly depart for the time being?
[(time=1354236960)] <Romanoffia> Will post the appropriate parts.
[(time=1354236960)] <-- Windy left the channel
[(time=1354236960)] <Eluvatar> Romanoffia: I already said I'd cover posting this as MoC at the time the meeting began
[(time=1354236960)] <Romanoffia> Yup.
[(time=1354237020)] <KiwiTaicho> So?
[(time=1354237020)] <-- Mahaj kicked off by Eluvatar (): come back later
[(time=1354237020)] <Eluvatar> okay
[(time=1354237080)] <Eluvatar> I am informed that mcmasterdonia has received some TGs related to Foreign Affairs
[(time=1354237080)] <Tim> He has?
[(time=1354237080)] <KiwiTaicho> Could you elaborate?
[(time=1354237080)] <Eluvatar> Yeah
[(time=1354237140)] <Eluvatar> Apparently Skyrim wants help
[(time=1354237140)] <Tim> They do?
[(time=1354237140)] <Tim> I wasn't told :P
[(time=1354237140)] <Eluvatar> and thinks that having an embassy with us is grounds for asking for it
[(time=1354237140)] <Eluvatar> 19:58 <@Eluvatar> I am informed that mcmasterdonia has received some TGs related to Foreign Affairs
[(time=1354237140)] <Eluvatar> That would be why
[(time=1354237140)] <Tim> What does Skyrim want he;p with?
[(time=1354237140)] <Tim> help*
[(time=1354237200)] <Eluvatar> http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zanzar wants us to endorse http://www.nationstates.net/nation=pomplamouse
[(time=1354237200)] <Eluvatar> Because their founder is low on activitons
[(time=1354237200)] <Tim> Who is Zanzar in Skyrim?
[(time=1354237260)] <Tim> Ah, Steward
[(time=1354237320)] <KiwiTaicho> Well what do people think?
[(time=1354237320)] <Tim> Opposed, for now.
[(time=1354237320)] <Romanoffia> Interesting. Pardon my arabic but zanar's ,motto is Land, Sea, Air. Trivial, but interesting.
[(time=1354237320)] <KiwiTaicho> :P
[(time=1354237380)] <Eluvatar> Okay.
[(time=1354237380)] <Eluvatar> There's another.
[(time=1354237440)] <Eluvatar> Sovereign Texasas asks mcm to approve Condemn UDL
[(time=1354237440)] <Romanoffia> Is there any benefit to TNP in lending support (that is, if we lend aid, does it piss off anyone important?
[(time=1354237500)] <Tim> I don't think we should jump on the trigger so fast
[(time=1354237500)] <Tim> Let's at least wait to see if Founder is on Vacation Mode.
[(time=1354237500)] <Tim> As for the McM Request to Approve: That's your Category MoWA
[(time=1354237500)] <Tim> But I oppose it.
[(time=1354237560)] <Eluvatar> Well I plead the fifth
[(time=1354237560)] <Eluvatar> or rather recuse myself :P
[(time=1354237560)] <Eluvatar> And um so should you and Roman
[(time=1354237560)] <Romanoffia> I agree with Tim.
[(time=1354237560)] <Eluvatar> KiwiTaicho: should TNP approve Condemn UDL?
[(time=1354237560)] <Romanoffia> Why should I recuse myself?
[(time=1354237560)] <Romanoffia> oh!
[(time=1354237560)] <Eluvatar> http://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=jedi-gangsters_1354200340
[(time=1354237560)] <KiwiTaicho> *sigh* we should probably stay clear of it
[(time=1354237620)] <Eluvatar> Okay, it is unanimous
[(time=1354237620)] <Romanoffia> lol! nEVER MIND!
[(time=1354237620)] <Eluvatar> So we're all set on Skyrim for now?
[(time=1354237620)] <Tim> Nope, not recusing.
[(time=1354237620)] <Tim> I oppose
[(time=1354237620)] <Tim> :P
[(time=1354237620)] <Tim> And I am going to cast my NAY vote if that abomination gets to vote.
[(time=1354237620)] <Tim> So I have spoken
[(time=1354237620)] * Tim nods
[(time=1354237620)] <Tim> Skyrim matter, I think we're waiting it out for now?
[(time=1354237680)] <Romanoffia> I'd try to contact he founder via NS or whatever regional forum he/she is on. Failing that, then I'd say go for it.
[(time=1354237680)] <Eluvatar> Fine by me
[(time=1354237680)] <Eluvatar> MoD KiwiTaicho?
[(time=1354237680)] <KiwiTaicho> Yep.
[(time=1354237680)] <KiwiTaicho> More info is needed.
[(time=1354237680)] <Romanoffia> Yup.
[(time=1354237680)] <Tim> Alright, then that's settled.
[(time=1354237680)] <Eluvatar> Okay, Tim, get us an active Ambassador
[(time=1354237680)] <Eluvatar> and send him to fact-find
[(time=1354237680)] <Eluvatar> (or her)
[(time=1354237740)] * Tim is a Skyrim Citizen, last he checked
[(time=1354237740)] <Eluvatar> Okay
[(time=1354237740)] <Tim> I can head over.
[(time=1354237740)] <Eluvatar> You can send yerself
[(time=1354237740)] <Tim> Shall do.
[(time=1354237740)] <Tim> Plus I know SkyDip
[(time=1354237740)] <KiwiTaicho> :P
[(time=1354237740)] <Eluvatar> You are Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary by will of the Executive Council of TNP
[(time=1354237740)] <Eluvatar> right?
[(time=1354237740)] <Tim> Sure
[(time=1354237740)] <Tim> Also, Deputy Ministers
[(time=1354237740)] <Romanoffia> Tim is The Timmeh.
[(time=1354237740)] <Tim> Do you guys have them?
[(time=1354237800)] <Romanoffia> Will look for a good dep.
[(time=1354237800)] <Tim> I think Aurora is still my Deputy, but we'll have to see what happens depending on her activity.
[(time=1354237800)] <KiwiTaicho> Probably have scandigrad if he still wants it.
[(time=1354237800)] <Eluvatar> I motion to end closed session
[(time=1354237800)] <Eluvatar> And restart the Deputies convo
[(time=1354237800)] <KiwiTaicho> I second.
[(time=1354237800)] <Eluvatar> Is there a second?
[(time=1354237800)] <Eluvatar> Aye
[(time=1354237800)] <Romanoffia> PE is nominally my Dep but haven't heard hide nor hair of him.
[(time=1354237800)] <Romanoffia> Second.
[(time=1354237800)] <Eluvatar> 1 Aye
[(time=1354237800)] <Eluvatar> 3 not voted
[(time=1354237800)] <Eluvatar> 2 absent
[(time=1354237800)] <KiwiTaicho> Aye
[(time=1354237800)] <Tim> Aye
[(time=1354237860)] <Tim> Or Peanut Butter, if that is an acceptable vote.
[(time=1354237860)] <Eluvatar> 3 Aye, 1 not voted, 2 absent
[(time=1354237860)] --- Eluvatar changed mode: -is
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r3naissanc3r:
[(time=1354237320)] <Romanoffia> Interesting. Pardon my arabic but zanar's ,motto is Land, Sea, Air. Trivial, but interesting.
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The arabophilic pedant in me is obliged to point out that the motto was in Farsi, not Arabic, and that one should not simply trust the word of google translate when it comes to this kind of thing. :P
 
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