Le Mini Speech

Tresville

TNPer
I posted a few days ago that after I speak to the Admins and get my name in the WFE, I would post a speech.

Due to the recent events I have decided to post this small one that will touch on a few topics but not go into detail. The detail I will reserve for later, pending the results of the proposal in regards to my delegacy.

First off, I would like to emphasize that in no way did I intend to violate the constitution when I accepted the nomination for the delegacy. I should have checked my eligabilty but didn't. It was however, not my responsibility to do so.

Soon as I read the clause, in regards to eligabilty, I approached an official and also took it upon myself to pm the RA so that they may be made aware of the situation.

The fact that I came forward immediatly after viewing the clause and did not wait till I unseated the current delegate should show that my intentions are honorable and in no way intended this to happen.

I apologize for this incident and hope that a solution is reached quickly so that we can move on with the business at hand.

Until this matter is resolved I will not be acting as a full delegate. No cabinet will be chosen and I will make no delegate type of decisions.

However, we cannot afford to waste valuable time in waiting for that solution. I humbly ask that the current administration continue with business as usual until the matter is resolved.

I will use this time to prepare. Should the decision be in my favor, I will quickly put into effect my plans for the government.

I will not get into detail as to what those plans are until the situation is resolved. I will however inform everyone of what I have been doing and touch on some things I plan to do.


Since before the election began I have been helping to clear the RMB of spam and report violaters who dared to pollute our board with rubish. Sad to say that I even had to report the group called The Black Hawks and Redback who is an RA member for spamming our board with lyrics many times in a matter of 3 hours. The MODS did respond and took care of the matter.. More info on the incident will be posted in due time and it will not go ignored.

On a good note, many recruiters have been upholding our ten line limit ad rule. Many citizens have joined me in publically critisizing violaters and we have made a good time of it. Glad to say that no other invader org has acted in an immature manner and their ads have been rather informative and entertaining. It is good to see such maturity and good game play by our invader community! Hopefully we can get many other advertisers on the same page.

I have spoken with the admins in regards to forum organization, masking and a facelift to this forums appearance. I have commishioned our regional cartographer Thel D'Ran to work on a new banner that will bring back the motto we held for so long that has been lost: "The largest and greates region in NS!". I will also work on changing a few icons and forum images. They will be nothing more than a slight variation of what we already have. Nothing major just something to liven the place up.

In regards to foreign affairs, I have been visiting many NS forums to get aquainted with our neighbors. I have not presented myself as anything other than a visitor and have yet to state that I am from TNP. I am merely shaking hands and being friendly in order to gather info on the communities. This should be good preperation for when I get our diplomats out to reintroduce us to NS.

Again, if all goes in my favor, I will not be handpicking a cabinet. Instead I hope to test a better method of choosing our elected officials.

I will post a detailed list of what each ministry will be responsible for under me. It will include their duties and it will encourage them to create their own system in order to keep their ministry active. Afterwards any citizen that is interested in the position will post their intent, provide credentials (such as past experience governing, activity level, etc) and include a promise to be active and delegate authority should they win the position (delegate meaning they will dictate to subordinates their duties and insure that if absent all responsibilities are met).

After this is done I will have the CLO vote for 3 days for the best qualified applicants for each cabinet position I will decline any applicants chosen by the CLO if I see that an applicant has been given favor over a more qualified applicant. The chosen will then be presented to the RA with their credentials for a 3 day vote to confirm their approval. Process should take no more than a week. I still have to read up on the voting regulations of the current RA. But I am sure the Speaker will work hand in hand with me to create a speedy process. When the vote is done I will officially choose these applicants.

Hopefully the process works well and the RA will be impressed and take it upon themselves to make the process law via discussion and legislation.


I fully intend to make every cabinet member liable for the actions of their subordinates and responsible for the activity required by the position. If not said member will be replaced by one of their own subordinates.

No government office will go inactive under my watch, all officials will be considered advisors and all cabinet discussions will be public and held in the forum and live on IRC #thenorthpacific (official government chat....#tnp will always be our place to mingle).

Trust me that this is me touching on some the things I want to achieve and implement. I have many more ideas to increase activity and move this region forward and towards a higher stature.

I hope that despite what my regular attackers say, people will see that my intentions are honorable, that I can and will do what I say (as opposed to merely spewing words and doing nothing) and that this region will be in safe hands.

I am depending on every active and positive member of this region to participate and take part in this community. From the sly invader placing bombs in a defenders shorts, to the avid role player god moding in Anime threads. Post in our entertainment section. Visit our RMB, volunteer to be a diplomat or NPA member!! We are here to have fun, politic and make friends......so what the hell are u waiting for? Enjoy!!!


**crowd roars and pelts Arses, marsupials, ex Dictators with iron fists and cloaked Sith pretenders with garbage and NTO phamplets**


This speech has been brought to you by Cisco and payed for by the NTO. All copies and redistributions are prohibited without the expressed written consent of Cisco, Tresvision or the NTO. The NTO is a Trademark of Tao the wanderer and is protected by law. All Marsupials will go blind upon reading this material as their feeble brain cannot work this fast. Why the hell are u still reading this...u should be posting in the entertainment section of the forum and on the RMB. Scoot!
 
Tresville:
First off, I would like to emphasize that in no way did I intend to violate the constitution when I accepted the nomination for the delegacy. I should have checked my eligabilty but didn't.

And just so we're all straight on this - I too made this very same mistake - it is indeed in no way limited to our new Delegate-elect. And I accept the responsibility upon my own shoulders for an oversight that should not have occurred. I am sure Tresville feels exactly the same - so I do hope that this is now past us.

Tresville:
After this is done I will have the CLO vote for 3 days for the best qualified applicants for each cabinet position I will decline any applicants chosen by the CLO if I see that an applicant has been given favor over a more qualified applicant.

That might unfortunately give the impression that the only applicants to make it through will be the ones most qualified in the Delegate's eyes - not the CLO's. I haven't a problem with this (given that you would usually handpick them anyway) - but it does raise the question as to whether or not the CLO-approval process is really necessary.

Also, am I right to assume that a member of the CLO cannot also function as a member of the cabinet? (I'm starting to get ideas)...:shifty:

Back on track - I'm certainly looking forward to serving under our new government during this most interesting time for TNP, and I expect that our region will yet remain secure in the hands of our new Delegate - even in the midst of possibly substantial turbulence.

To those who may have misgivings in regards to Tresville - please allow me to remind you that unity and efficiency is very much one of our most important assets at this time - by disregarding such advice is to actively contribute to the weakening of our internal structure during a time of uncertainty, whether intended or not.

But...perhaps we won't face too much difficulty in this area...I think we've already established that anyone who speaks too loudly about conspiracy and illegitimacy is likely to get shot on sight. ;)
 
Considering that the CLO has no Constitutional Authority over the Cabinet, don't you think that's kind of giving it more powers and setting a bad precedent?
 
Considering that the CLO has no Constitutional Authority over the Cabinet, don't you think that's kind of giving it more powers and setting a bad precedent?
I don't see any problem with consulting the CLO on important issues; voluntarily devolving power down through government actually seems fairly sensible. Checks and balances and all that.
 
It is the delegate's prerogative to select his cabinet however he likes, and the CLO could conceivably interrupt such an action anyway, I think. I don't really think this particular method is an improvement at all, and the more usual appointment method would be preferred, but there isn't anything particular wrong with it.
 
Considering that the CLO has no Constitutional Authority over the Cabinet, don't you think that's kind of giving it more powers and setting a bad precedent?

Actually, the CLO has constitutional authority over the Cabinet and the entire executive branch. It has the power to review and temporarily freeze executive branch actions, and to make legislative proposals of whatever kind it deems is needed on an emergency basis.

As to Tresville's plans to have a methodolgy for input on Cabinet organization and appointment, there is nothing in the Constitution that directs how the Delegate organizes his administration. The provisions in the current constitution leaves these details to the sole discretion of the Delegate; Lewis and CLark, and GBM, had four ministries, Eluvatar had five, and we had seven under the old constitution. As the incumbent Prime Minister who tried to fashion a compromise during my tenure in that office, I'm fully aware that there is no complete consensus on that issue.

The Constitution neither compels or prohibits the process Tresville is proposing on Cabinet organization and appointment. All that is certain is that constitutionally, it is the Delegate's responsibility.
 
Considering that the CLO has no Constitutional Authority over the Cabinet, don't you think that's kind of giving it more powers and setting a bad precedent?
I don't see any problem with consulting the CLO on important issues; voluntarily devolving power down through government actually seems fairly sensible. Checks and balances and all that.
Then devolve it to the RA, not the CLO.
Then what's the point of having a CLO? Might as well replace all their functions with the RA.
 
Considering that the CLO has no Constitutional Authority over the Cabinet, don't you think that's kind of giving it more powers and setting a bad precedent?
I don't see any problem with consulting the CLO on important issues; voluntarily devolving power down through government actually seems fairly sensible. Checks and balances and all that.
Then devolve it to the RA, not the CLO.
Then what's the point of having a CLO? Might as well replace all their functions with the RA.
I've been arguing to do that for ages now.
 
Considering that the CLO has no Constitutional Authority over the Cabinet, don't you think that's kind of giving it more powers and setting a bad precedent?
I don't see any problem with consulting the CLO on important issues; voluntarily devolving power down through government actually seems fairly sensible. Checks and balances and all that.
Then devolve it to the RA, not the CLO.
Then what's the point of having a CLO? Might as well replace all their functions with the RA.
I've been arguing to do that for ages now.
Which would be symptomatic of a wider issue. You can't really fault Tres for trying to give the CLO some relevance.
 
I figured the CLO, a party of three, would quickly be able to narrow the choices down for me. The RA is simply voting on their approval of the candidates the CLO narrowed down...neither is choosing them as the cabinet. I also included a method of dismissing an applicant on the case of the CLO not being neutral in a decision. Once I present them as the cabinet that will be the official choosing of the cabinet by the Delegate as specified in the constitution. I chose my words carefully when describing the process. Neither the RA or the CLO actually choose the cabinet members.

I am doing this to "test" another method of selecting the cabinet with the hope that the RA will take it upon themselves to discuss such a method and decide on a new process. Obviously it is already working since your posts here provide more insight on approval/dissaproval of the process and other suggestions were given. Dismiss the CLO, Change the voting for the Cabinet to the RA or defer it to the CLO. All good suggestions that I am sure will create more activity in the RA. :clap:

Unlike the past, my goal in this term is to bring life to the region and gov. I also intend to prepare us for the future (NS2) improve our image and give this region a high level of stature. Before it was more about uniting a divided region and maintaining security. I do not intend to legislate in the RA as I was forced to do before to keep power out of the hands of usurpers and tyrants.
 
Tresville:
First off, I would like to emphasize that in no way did I intend to violate the constitution when I accepted the nomination for the delegacy. I should have checked my eligabilty but didn't.

And just so we're all straight on this - I too made this very same mistake - it is indeed in no way limited to our new Delegate-elect. And I accept the responsibility upon my own shoulders for an oversight that should not have occurred. I am sure Tresville feels exactly the same - so I do hope that this is now past us.

Tresville:
After this is done I will have the CLO vote for 3 days for the best qualified applicants for each cabinet position I will decline any applicants chosen by the CLO if I see that an applicant has been given favor over a more qualified applicant.

That might unfortunately give the impression that the only applicants to make it through will be the ones most qualified in the Delegate's eyes - not the CLO's. I haven't a problem with this (given that you would usually handpick them anyway) - but it does raise the question as to whether or not the CLO-approval process is really necessary.

Also, am I right to assume that a member of the CLO cannot also function as a member of the cabinet? (I'm starting to get ideas)...:shifty:

Back on track - I'm certainly looking forward to serving under our new government during this most interesting time for TNP, and I expect that our region will yet remain secure in the hands of our new Delegate - even in the midst of possibly substantial turbulence.

To those who may have misgivings in regards to Tresville - please allow me to remind you that unity and efficiency is very much one of our most important assets at this time - by disregarding such advice is to actively contribute to the weakening of our internal structure during a time of uncertainty, whether intended or not.

But...perhaps we won't face too much difficulty in this area...I think we've already established that anyone who speaks too loudly about conspiracy and illegitimacy is likely to get shot on sight. ;)
What is in the link? I can't see it. I want to see the conspiracy.

Was it that Flemingovia and Tresville discussed the issue of eligibility prior to or during the election and it was decided that Tresville would humbly bring the matter up to the RA after the fact so that he could look the part of the wounded hero and gain sympathy for breaking the Constitution?

That would be neat.
 
Was it that Flemingovia and Tresville discussed the issue of eligibility prior to or during the election and it was decided that Tresville would humbly bring the matter up to the RA after the fact so that he could look the part of the wounded hero and gain sympathy for breaking the Constitution?

That would be neat.
Like Flem said...not reality though.

I got on IRC after seeing the clause. Flem was there...I approached him and he posted right after we spoke. Simple as that...but I am sure you can imagine a grand conspiracy. But be careful...someone may think your Romanoffia and start another conspiracy....ooooh!!! lol
 
I think u need attention. You felt left out for not receiving TG's from gates and now u want to be involved in Ivans imagination!!! lol

Conspiracy: Isn't it true that you are really Pope Hope? Your about to reveal some chat transcripts aren't u!!!

lol :rofl:
 
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