FRONTLINE: 'DADS ARMY'

[Shotski]

When FRONTLINE talked to NS Defence Analyst, General Willowna (Rtd.) today,
he told us that the entire Stronghold Conflict resembled an episode of Dad's Army, and if any headway was to be made against invaders, both the ADN and NPA would need to consider serious reforms.

"It is all well and good to claim victory, but the ends DO NOT justify the
means, especially when such a large organisation and region seemed not able
to liberate this region from the small force of 19 invaders"

Willowna continued:

"The entire affair so far has resembled an episode of 'Dads Army'! We have
Defender troops in the region asking who are the defenders. It will only take one
invader to put his hand up, and any security obtained through password protection would be eliminated!"

Willowna also expressed his concerns at the current capabilities of not just the
ADN, but the NPA, stating that "any professional military service in NS, especially a feeder one, should have encountered so much resistance and set-backs. This mission was entirley in their reach and should have nly taken one assualt."

Willowna called for serious reforms to training and organisation, mentioning that "the NPA has not been able to acknowledge their first 2 failed attempts, by
putting up a facade of 'it was all part of the plan... honest!' when NPA forces only
deployed AFTER the liberation had taken place, which means that they are also inable to recognise their faults, and will not improve on them!"

Willowna remarked that the entire Stronghold Campaign resembled an episode of 'Dads Army', as seen above

General Willowna also had this warning for the Defenders, "You have not won the war, not even the battle yet. Do not claim victory. You must look forward, and begin to prepare for the long war ahead. There will be 100s more regions fought over, and 1000's of nations involved. This war has only begun, do not let yourself feel safe yet"

This a valid warning in a world which is so unstable, and a new wave of invader activity is occuring.

This is Shotski Reporting for Frontline, Bring it Hard, Bringing it Home!

 

[Flemingovia]

The above interview looks like a bad case of....

"the NPA has not been able to acknowledge their first 2 failed attempts, by putting up a facade of 'it was all part of the plan... honest!' when NPA forces only deployed AFTER the liberation had taken place, which means that they are also inable to recognise their faults, and will not improve on them!"

Utter and unmitigated bollocks. We have freely admitted that the earlier attempts failed. Do try to keep up, Willowna. or perhaps you read

Heh. Nope - we got creamed.

as

we won a stunning victory and our strategic withdrawl was all part of the plan

admittedly, Hersfold did say

In other words, yes, it was all in the plan. wink.gif

In which case, look up what a winky smilie means.

Second, NPA forces were involved in the action. I was there myself as Picknmix, so I know we were part of the force. We were invited to bolster the forces after liberation to prevent a counterattack, and so put more troops in, and were pleased to do so.

If the liberating forces were indeed an incompetent "Dad's Army" then logically the only way we could have won was if we were matched against an even more incompetent foe? Or perhaps the level of alertness of the invaders is not what it should be?

Perhaps it is not the defenders, but the AC that is in need of an overhaul? Just a suggestion.

PS. Can I just say I have the greatest of respect for the former Invader delegate Giganometry who, when he was replaced at update, admitted he had not expected the attack and had been caught napping, congratulated the defenders, and went with good grace. A marked contrast to the article above.

 

[Shotski]

Flemingovia, your arrival was 1 hour after update, after the delegacy was secured. I monitored the region as the initial liberation took place. If you check the full coverage, a report had been completley composed edited and published within the first hour.

Apart from that fact (which I feel will be disputed for some time to come), it is good to see active discussion about the interview. I would like to comment that it isn't "bullocks", simply conflicting with the view you hold, the view you are entitled to hold.

To rebut the comments, I believe that the reference to 'Dads Army' was justified. The men of 'Dads Army' were not incompitent, simply... challenged, and if you watch each episode, their exploits generally end in success.

I find it hard to believe how a feeder army, netherlone the ADN were unsuccessful in their first 2 attempts to take a region being held with a minimal number of votes. Also, posting on the RMB;

who is a defender, just so we know who to endorse and who not to endorse

is in no-way acceptable behaviour nor conduct on deployment. This can be considered a serious breach of procedure which could have (in the 2 hours no constructive post was placed) resulted in an AC operative being able to gain entry to the region. I believe that is the refrence to Dads Army...

Trooper 1: Who are my allies, hello fellow defenders?
Enemy: I am your friend...
Trooper 1: Really
Enemy: Trust me...
Trooper 2: So am I!
Enemy: No he isn't...
Trooper 1: DIE!!!!!!!

Even in my relativly short experience I can see the problems of the forces in 'The Stronghold'. No command structure, simply a free for all which resulted in random waves of men. No structured invasion. 19 endorsements... if we can muster a force of over 30 now, why couldn't we then?
Such events show flaws in basic training and ensuring that a certain standard is maintained.

admitted he had not expected the attack and had been caught napping, congratulated the defenders, and went with good grace

I am sure they will not make this mistake again, so we better not count on it happening again. Honestly, the AC put in a better performance then the defenders. They appeared to be well trained, displayed discipline and had a clear command structure.

As much as it is good to bash the article featured in this topic, take heed of what it says, as it was not posted simply to take up space. It carries a strong message which I believe you may have missed amid your contempt, do not let your guard down, do not let this victory go to your head, as it is not a victory yet. Until the last invader is gone and the region is fully independant you have not won this battle, and you are no where near winning the war.
You should not be concerned in regard to the need for the reform of your enemy forces, but improvement on yours.

This is Shotski, reporting for FRONTLINE. Remember, your weapon is made by the lowest bidder...

 

[Flemingovia]

Flemingovia, your arrival was 1 hour after update, after the delegacy was secured. I monitored the region as the initial liberation took place.

No it wasn't. I was in an hour before update, and when I went in Giganometry was still delegate. If you can show otherwise, show the evidence/screenshots/logs. You can check with Lanna directly, but here is the log from #tnp where he invited me to take part in the exercise.

[07:01] <Lanna> anyone defender in here?
[07:20] *** Signoff: Ermarian (Ping timeout)
[07:28] <flemingovia> yes
[07:29] <Lanna> free UN?
[07:29] <flemingovia> yep. 
[07:29] <flemingovia> What do you need?

((((The conversation then went to private channel, where he told me to go into the Stronghold and who to endorse. I moved in at 7:33am ))))

[07:34] *** Moo-Cows is now known as Moo|Sleep
[08:27] <Lanna> we won..

All times are BST, which is GMT +1

I would like to comment that it isn't "bullocks", simply conflicting with the view you hold, the view you are entitled to hold.

I did not say bullocks, which are young male cattle. I said bollocks, which are male testicles. It is vital that one learns not to confuse the two, otherwise much embarassment could result on your next visit to a farm.

What was bollocks (=testicles) in the article was the assertion that the NPA had refused to acknowlege that our earlier attempt at liberation had failed. I believe that my first post showed why that was bollocks (=testicles). I did not say that it was bollocks (=testicles) that we should learn from this campaign. Armies should learn from every engagement.

And I am sure the defenders have learned from this exercise, as have the invaders. But posting factually inaccurate and one-sided articles will not earn you a great deal of credibility.

 

[Shotski]

If it be the case that you arrived an hour before update, I apologise for my error, and also, I concede I am not the worlds best speller, but hey, I never like spelling bees.
I do take offence to the comment that my articles are one-sided, as in context, they are not.
It simply focused on the problems that had been encountered by the ADN and NPA. If you look at this article in context, along with other article published by FRONTLINE, you will find that they offer both sides, and in no way wish to deflate or hinder the NPA's apparant morale boost. Please do not take the rigid approach by treating these articles as individual texts, as they are not, but build off one another. I suggest you read the entire coverage before making remarks about bias.

I hope this has settled some of the dispute in regard to deployment times.

I would wish you good day, an await your eventual reply...

Shotski

 

[Flemingovia]

fair enough. Thanks for your apology. And I am sorry that you got caught up in the backlash of a fairly crappy day in RL.

 

[Shotski]

It is the lot of a reporter who enjoys a little bit of stirring...

FRONTLINE now issues a formal apology, as after an endorsment count was done, Flemingovia was number 18, meaning that he was present either before or during liberation.

FRONTLINE... Dedicated to the facts

Shotski
TNP corrospondent

 

[Namyeknom]

This may all be very worrying, so I only have one thing to say:

"Don't panic!"

 

[Blue Wolf II]

We're all dooooooooooooooomed!

 

[Namyeknom]

Stupid boy.

 

[Daimiaena]

They don't like it up'em.....