[R4R] Regarding the Speaker's Decision to Restore Fregerson's Citizenship

TlomzKrano

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1. What law, government policy, or action (taken by a government official) do you request that the Court review?
The Speaker’s Office removed citizenship from an individual, @Fregerson, due to a lack of Forum or RMB posting. Upon discovering that the subject individual had posted on their forum profile, the Speaker’s Office restored their citizenship and stated "It was discovered that Fregerson did make a post on the forum within the 30-day time limit. Therefore, citizenship (and status as a Security Councilor) is restored."
Link - https://forum.thenorthpacific.org/topic/9191694/post-10763684

2. What portions of the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Legal Code, or other legal document do you believe has been violated by the above? How so?
Section 6.2 Clause 17 of the Legal Code:
The Speaker will promptly remove any citizens who, for over 30 consecutive days, neither post on the regional forum, nor post on the regional message board of The North Pacific or one of its territories with their registered nations.
The legal code requires all citizens to post on the regional forum or in-game regional message board (RMB) at least once every thirty days to maintain citizenship. That is fundamentally not in question here. The specific issue I am seeking to address is: What counts as posting on the regional forum? The Speaker’s Office initially revoked citizenship as the subject individual failed to post on the regional forums or RMB for thirty consecutive days, however the citizenship was restored when the Speaker’s Office discovered that the subject individual made a post on their profile. Profile posts are a function that allows forum users to make individual posts on their own or other user’s profiles, outside of traditional subforums. Further, user creation of a profile post is not publicly tracked by the forum, via a user’s post count, or by the Speaker’s citizenship tracking infrastructure.

Older versions of The North Pacific’s forums did not have profile post capability, notably when the relevant portions of the legal code mandating forum or RMB activity were written.

3. Are there any prior rulings of the Court that support your request for review? Which ones, and how?
The court has routinely accepted R4Rs for the purposes of reviewing governmental action that may have violated standing laws or operates within legal gray areas.

4. Please establish your standing by detailing how you, personally, have been adversely affected. If you are requesting a review of a governmental action, you must include how any rights or freedoms of yours have been violated.
Standing derived by my position as Court Examiner.

5. Is there a compelling regional interest in resolving your request? If so, explain why it is in the interest of the region as whole for your request to be decided now.
This request intends to address a legal ambiguity regarding the status of a forum function that has never been traditionally tracked by the Speaker’s Office for the purposes of citizenship and is not publicly tracked by the TNP Forums as of this date. Resolving this ambiguity will ensure the citizenry knows what does and does not count towards maintaining their citizenship, as well as ensuring the Speaker’s Office is confident in legal grounding of the decisions they make to revoke citizenship in accordance with relevant legal code.

6. Do you have any further information you wish to submit to the Court with your request?
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The Court accepts this request for review, and I will serve as the Moderating Justice. The Court recognizes @Sil Dorsett as respondent.

At this time the Court will accept briefs from any interested party, until five days from this post.
 
May it please the court...

There's more to this issue than whether a profile post counts as a "post" for purposes of citizenship retention.

First,
The Speaker's Office has historically reviewed members who have been flagged as having not met the posting requirements, and any post displayed under the "Postings" tab on the user's profile page is considered a post.

An example of this can be found here: https://forum.thenorthpacific.org/profile/5025161/#recent-content

The issue stems from Xenforo's treatment of profile posts, in that they do not increment the Messages count. I am the maintainer of the scripts that track citizenship compliance and I am quite aware of the limitations of them. The script checks the Messages count for the current day and compares it to 30 days ago. A difference means someone has made a post other than a profile post, and no difference means no post outside of a profile post. Therefore, I have made it clear any time someone is flagged for not meeting the requirements, the Speaker's Office is required to verify that the citizen did not make any post at all by reviewing the "Postings" tab.

Considering the old forum was last used in 2018, I do not remember whether it had a mechanism to post on someone's profile and whether, if it existed, it incremented the number of posts a user had. But the law was written back before then, so that is why I bring it up.

Secondly,
The removal of Fregerson's citizenship was the result of a glitch, where the "Postings" page did not initially show me the profile post that maintained compliance. I have no ability to perform root cause analysis into why I was not shown the post, but it did appear once I had viewed Valentine Z's profile. Had the profile post been shown in the first place, I would have never removed Fregerson's citizenship, and we wouldn't be talking about this right now.

To summarize: My action to restore Fregerson's citizenship was based on 1. precedent that profile posts are considered posts on the forum regardless of whether it increments the "Messages" number, and 2. the fact that an unknown forum glitch caused me to not see the post until I visited Valentine Z's profile.

Per LC 6.2.24, my actions were appropriate.
The Speaker will promptly restore citizenship to any residents whom they removed in error, if the error is discovered within 7 days of removing them.
 
I file an amicus brief to plead to the Court to dismiss this matter.

I plead that this matter is out of the jurisdiction of the in-character (IC) Court.

I plead that @Sil Dorsett is not a respondent on the grounds that the Court has no jurisdiction.


(a) Forum rules

Paragraph 5 of the Terms and rules of The North Pacific Forum (https://forum.thenorthpacific.org/help/terms/) override the Legal Code as the out-of-character (OOC) governance of this web site. (OOC, also known as Real Life (RL) for those unfamiliar with real life ([note 1]). The relevant paragraph states that: "We may remove or modify any Content submitted at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice. Requests for Content to be removed or modified will be undertaken only at our discretion. We may terminate your access to all or any part of the Service at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice."

I interpret this broadly to mean that the owner (and relevant Administrators, whose authority derives from the owner) has ultimate authority on this web site, not the IC government, including the IC Court.


(b) Thenorthpacific.org (the "forum domain")

According to Dreamhost (the host provider for the forum domain, according to Whois), the forum domain is owned by "Proxy Protection LLC". I presume this is simply a name used to maintain the privacy of the owner(s) as is common practice. I also have the conjecture, based on the reference to Eluvatar in here, that Eluvatar is the owner, or one of the owner(s) but the ultimate owner(s) of this domain is not relevant to this discussion. [note 2]

Any content posted on the domain is ultimately the responsibility of the domain owner(s), subject to various laws in various applicable jurisdictions. Thus, the owner of the domain should be responsible for scripts maintained on the web site, including the use of scripts on the said web site. While such scripts, as @Sil Dorsett mentioned above, undoubtedly benefit the IC functioning of the TNP government, the use (or failure to use, or whether such scripts are fit for a particular purpose, such as the IC citizenship checks) is at the discretion of the domain owner.

If the IC government deems a script to be not fit for a particular purpose, the IC government is free to develop its own script, and to ask the domain owner to amend it. The Court is clearly conflating the role of @Sil Dorsett in his capacity as an Administrator (which is OOC) or as a programmer of the various scripts (referring to Sil's Github submissions above) versus his current role as Speaker (or his previous role as Deputy Speaker).



(c) Recognition of OOC contributions

As far as I am aware, OOC contributors to the function of TNP have not been recognized in any form in the IC universe, so similarly there appears to be no justification for the Court to rule on actions (or to impose any remedy) on an OOC issue. (Edit: this includes contributions of time, energy, effort, servers, or money).

My understanding is that Sil Dorsett has been recognized numerous times for his contributions IC by the IC government, but there appears to be no explicit the mandate of the IC government (under the IC Constitution) to recognize contributions on an OOC basis, as is Sil's case contributing scripts to TNP. (Eluvatar has been recognized via Turtle Day but that was for contributions to NS as a whole, rather than TNP specifically, and Delegates have broad powers to recognize anyone for any achievement in any case.)

[Note 1] For the avoidance of doubt for the any members of TNP or NationStates players in general that are not familiar with this concept, "real life" is when you log off from NationStates. Such fellow citizens may have experienced (to their horrors) "real life" when NationStates was unavaialble for several days recently.

[Note 2] https://forum.thenorthpacific.org/topic/9196003/
 
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While I acknowledge that Simone's brief is defending me, I must point out its errors for the benefit of the court.

First of all, the scripts used to check citizenship are not hosted on any server operated by Eluvatar. They are hosted on a separate virtual private server that I purchased. I am the sole developer of those scripts and the sole operator. Any errors are my responsibility to correct, and that is outside of my roles of Acting Speaker and Administrator.

Secondly, the scripts are ultimately irrelevant to the core issue. My mention of them was for the court's benefit to understand how I reached both conclusions that Fregerson had lapsed citizenship and Fregerson retained citizenship, requiring an LC 6.2.24 intervention.

The citzenship checks could have been performed manually. In essence, I could have visited the forum profiles of each citizen, checked the Postings tab, and made a determination whether someone had not posted in 30 days.

However, there is a flaw in this manual way of doing checks. Not every post on the forum is visible to everyone. We have secured subforums of the forum, where posts do increment the Messages counter but are not visible in the Postings tab of member profiles if the person checking does not have access to that subforum. This does make knowing the Messages count from 30 days ago essential to ensure no one is wrongly stripped of citizenship. The only mitigating factor in this scenario is the fact that I am an Administrator, meaning I can see a lot more than a Speaker can.

The only thing the court really needs to consider is the definition of a "post on the regional forum". Is it "a post that increments the Messages counter" or "a post that appears on a forum profile's 'Postings' tab"? The Messages counter misses profile posts and also creates a dependency on scripts to capture the counter 30 days before the count is needed. The Postings tab does not show any post that one would not normally see based on permissions, but has no dependency on scripts. Neither solution is perfect, but I would argue that the one without a single point of failure like a r3n-style techocalypse is the preferred option.
 
This is super belated for an update, but the Court is approaching a response to this question. Getting everyone's schedules to line up has been difficult, but I believe we are fairly close to an answer.
 
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Ruling of the Court of The North Pacific
In regards to the judicial inquiry filed by TlomzKrano on Counting Forum Posts
Opinion drafted by Justice Skaraborg, joined by THO Chipoli, with Chief Justice Pallaith dissenting

The Court took into consideration the inquiry filed here by TlomzKrano.

The Court took into consideration the legal brief filed here by Sil Dorsett and here by Simone.

The Court took into consideration the relevant portions of the Constitution of The North Pacific:

Article 7. The Regional Forum:
1. The Regional Forum will be the XenForo forum located at forum.thenorthpacific.org, formerly http://s13.zetaboards.com/TNP/ .
2. Enforcement of forum Terms Of Service and moderation policies will be the responsibility of forum administration.
The Court took into consideration the relevant portions of the Bill of Rights of The North Pacific:
The Bill of Rights for all Nations of The North Pacific:
9. Each Nation in The North Pacific and its territories is guaranteed the organization and operation of the governmental authorities of the region and its territories on fundamental principles of democracy, accountability, and transparency. No action by the governmental authorities of the region and its territories shall deny to any Nation of The North Pacific and its territories, due process of law, including prior notice and the opportunity to be heard, nor deny to any Nation of The North Pacific and its territories the equal and fair treatment and protection of the provisions of the Constitution. No governmental authority shall have power to adopt or impose an ex post facto law or a bill of attainder as to any act for purposes of criminal proceedings.
The Court took into consideration the relevant portions of the Legal Code of The North Pacific:
Chapter 6: Regional Assembly Statutes:
Section 6.2: Administration and Loss of Citizenship
16. The Speaker will promptly remove any citizens who, for over 30 consecutive days, neither post on the regional forum, nor post on the regional message board of The North Pacific or one of its territories with their registered nations.
The Court took into consideration the prior ruling by the Court here


The Court opines the following:


On Standing
The petitioner is the Court Examiner and enjoys universal standing for all questions before this Court. There is no question of proper standing in this case.

On the enacted statute
The Court has been asked to review whether the phrase “citizens who neither post on the regional forum” includes profile posts or is limited to traditional forum posts. Resolving this question requires the Court to interpret what constitutes “citizens who neither post” and what constitutes “on the regional forum”.

On Profile Posts and Forum Posts
The Court acknowledges that there are functional differences between traditional forum posts and profile posts. The forum records the posts differently meaning profile posts are not covered by the Speaker’s office automated check. Additionally, the posts appear in different locations and they may serve different practical purposes. In the ”What’s New” section of the forum, profile posts are separated from regular posts.

However, such differences do not by themselves determine the legal meaning of the statutory language. To submit a profile post you must click the button which says “post” and to comment on a profile post you must click the button which says “post comment”. The Court therefore finds it indisputable that making profile posts is a form of activity which involves a user posting something. Both profile posts and forum posts therefore fall within the meaning of the term “post” in the phrase “citizens who neither post”, despite that they constitute distinct categories of posts in practice.

On the Regional Forum
The Constitution defines the regional forum as the official forum website of the region, as identified by the url link to the forum’s main page. This definition encompasses the entirety of the website, all pages within the domain forum.thenorthpacific.org.

Article 7.1 defines the Regional Forum by reference to that domain, and Article 7.2 assigns the administrators authority over that forum, including enforcement of its rules. Taken together, these provisions treat the forum as a single space subject to governance from administrators. Because profile posts are made on that website, they are, by definition, posted on the regional forum.

An alternative interpretation would introduce a distinction within that unified space, whereby certain parts of the same website, such as profile posts are treated as falling outside the phrase “on the regional forum”. Such an interpretation raises a fundamental difficulty: if profile posts are not considered to be made “on the Regional Forum,” it is unclear where such posts would be considered to be made, given that they exist on the very website identified in Article 7.1 and are subject to the same moderation under Article 7.2.

Moreover, creating multiple meanings of “the Regional Forum” depending on context risks introducing greater uncertainty into the law. The Court therefore concludes that profile posts also are part of “the regional forum”. To hold otherwise would require departing from the constitutional definition.

The Court’s modern interpretation
Profile posts fall within the ordinary meaning of the enacted text. The remaining question is whether there are sufficient reasons that require the court to deviate from the enacted law. The ambiguity before the Court is not in the meaning of the words themselves, but in whether those words extend to a circumstance not contemplated at the time of enactment.

On historic context and its implications
The relevant ambiguity stems from its historic context. When the law was first enacted 2014 through the Voting Rights Act, profile posts did not exist. Only forum posts existed. One interpretation is therefore that the statute either can only or implicitly refers to forum posts because that was the only type of post that existed at the time of enactment. This also complicates things as it is difficult to read into the spirit of the law which means it is difficult for the Court to know whether the author did not intend to include profile posts had they existed at the time of initial enactment.

This leaves two possible interpretations. On one hand the post at the time of enactment solely could be interpreted as forum posts because profile posts did not exist, on the other hand the text enacted was broadly written and when interpreted in a modern context includes profile posts. As previously stated, without considering historical context, the Court, in a modern context, finds no other interpretation than that profile posts shall be counted as posting on the regional forum. This creates two plausible interpretations. One anchored in historical context and one grounded in the enacted text.

The Court must therefore determine how statutes should be applied to circumstances not contemplated at the time of enactment. There is a lack of precedent for the Court to take into consideration as this case is unique in the fact that it’s a question of historical interpretation against modern interpretation.
However, the provision at issue is ongoing and expressed in general terms. Nothing in TNP law indicates that such provisions should be confined to the specific technological circumstances existing at the time of their adoption.

The author could not foresee the existence of profile posts, but neither is there anything to suggest the author intended to exclude future forms of posting. Statements from the author such as “Their posts can be anywhere in the forum” are not decisive or determinative to either side without resorting to assumptions or speculation.

As this Court has previously stated in On Resolving Ambiguity in the Absence of Subordinate Rules for Government Bodies, the Court should not base its verdict on assumed intent and any other intent in this matter cannot be derived either way without making assumptions. Accordingly, the Court relies on the enacted text which uses broad language that, under its ordinary meaning and Constitutional definition, includes profile posts.

The only clear purpose discernible from the Voting Rights Act is the intent that the posting requirement is intended to promote activity. While it may be argued that profile posts differ in their ability to prompt activity, that assessment is inherently subjective. The Court does not find any clear evidence that profile posts stride against the intent and therefore finds no reason to deviate from the enacted text as well as the Constitution’s definition of the regional forum.

On other provisions the Court must take into consideration
The Bill of Rights requires that whatever the statute establishes and whatever policy the Speaker's office follows must offer "equal and fair treatment" to every nation of The North Pacific.

On the Speaker’s original decision to permit profile posts
From a modern perspective, the phrases “citizens who post” and “on the regional forum” are broad and, when read with the Constitutional definition of “the regional forum”, appear unambiguous. The ambiguity instead arises only when one introduces historical context and questions of how the law should apply to circumstances not contemplated at the time of enactment.

This distinction is important. A Speaker who is not aware of, or does not consider, that historical context can reasonably conclude that the law is clear and admits of only one interpretation. In that situation, the Speaker is not choosing between competing interpretations, but rather applying what they understand to be an existing rule.

The Court finds no clear record of when or why profile posts were incorporated into the Speaker’s process. In the absence of such information, it is difficult to conclude that this was a conscious exercise of discretion in response to a recognised legal ambiguity, rather than an application of what was understood to be the ordinary and only meaning of the statute.

Ultimately, to the extent that ambiguity exists, its resolution lies with the Regional Assembly or this Court, rather than with the Speaker’s office. Where that ambiguity depends on historical context not reasonably apparent to the decision-maker, there is an increased risk that administrative action will be taken under the assumption that the law is clear, even where no authority exists to resolve the underlying ambiguity.

On the Speaker’s Process
If profile posts are consistently counted for the requirements of citizenship activity, the Bill of Rights is satisfied in its requirement of fair and equal treatment. The question is if the Speaker’s office can achieve such consistency. It is not the Court’s responsibility to determine how the Speaker’s office conducts their work, however the Court must contemplate whether counting profile posts consistently in a fair and equal manner is feasible. The evidence indicates that the Speaker’s office has over an extended period consistently checked for profile posts without issue until the incident giving cause to this review. The incident resulted from a specific circumstance, namely being logged out from their profile. The Speaker’s office is however required to be logged in to be able to post a message when they notify a former citizen of loss of citizenship. Additionally, the Court finds logged out users not able to view profile posts to be no different from logged out users not being able to view all sub-forums.

The Court admits that performing a check manually, which profile posts require, introduces a higher risk than counting all posts covered by the automated script. The Court however is satisfied that the Speaker’s process provides adequate protection from unequal and unfair treatment and ensures that the Speaker’s office will be able to continuously consistently check profile posts. The possibility of error does not, in itself, render the practice incompatible with the requirement of equal and fair treatment.

The Court therefore finds no compelling reason to deviate from the enacted text and finds no compelling basis that the Speaker’s office would not be able to, in a fair and equal manner, consistently check profile posts.

Holding
The Court hereby rules that profile posts are included within the enacted text and shall be counted for citizenship activity.

The Court opts for this ruling to stay consistent with the Constitutional definition of the regional forum instead of creating a new definition of the regional forum. The Court finds no reason to deviate from the enacted text as the Court neither finds profile posts to be in conflict with historical intent or with the requirement of fair and equal treatment as set out by the Bill of Rights. The Court therefore finds no justifiable cause to impose a narrow limitation on a broadly worded provision.
 
Dissent from the Ruling of the Court of The North Pacific
In regards to the Judicial Inquiry filed by TlomzKrano on Counting Forum Posts
Opinion drafted by Chief Justice Pallaith

I dissent as follows:

This Court was asked to decide an ambiguous part of our legal code, coming down on one side of what is a binary question. There is another binary question this Court ruled on twice that is particularly instructive when considering this case, considered in our prior rulings On the Vice Delegate’s Voting Rights within the Security Council and On Resolving Ambiguity in the Absence of Subordinate Rules for Government Bodies, which was whether the Vice Delegate, the constitutional chair of the Security Council, had a vote in Security Council matters. We initially determined that the Vice Delegate did have a vote, and later that in fact, the Vice Delegate did not have a vote, at least a constitutional one. Both interpretations were equally valid, because a legitimate ambiguity existed in the law and the Court was asked to resolve it. The problem was in how it was resolved, as the Court asserted a constitutional right that did not exist, and had no legal basis for its decision except to rule by fiat that the Vice Delegate had a vote, because it was plainly obvious to them that that was the case. This formed the basis of the overturning of that case. Like that question, there are two equally valid answers in this case. Unlike that question, the Court has connected its reasoning to constitutional principles. Where we disagree is on how they are applied, and whether there were other circumstances that should lead us to one conclusion over the other. In my view, the Court did not give enough weight to factors that align with the opposite conclusion.

The majority opinion rests on two fundamental conclusions: that the understanding of what the regional forum is means that profile posts must be counted for the purposes of maintaining citizenship; and that the Speaker’s handling of these posts is consistent with the requirements of the Bill of Rights. In order to come to this conclusion, the Court explores the historical context of the original citizenship law, parses the word “post,” and considers the Speaker’s process for verifying posts at length. This analysis, especially regarding the Speaker’s role in the process, did not go far enough. The majority asserts that it could find no compelling reason to deviate from its interpretation or to conclude that the Speaker’s office fell short. Perhaps my conclusions are not compelling, but these considerations are important and should be given voice, particularly in the event they ever apply to a subsequent case. For these reasons, I must dissent.

On the Nature of Forum Posts
This forum has two types of posts, what are commonly referred to as forum posts and profile posts. These types of posts do not work the same, and these differences are not insignificant. In one case there is the traditional forum post, the kind that existed when this law was first written, with any forum user being able to post a thread or on an existing thread in any part of the forum in which they are given access to post. In the other case there is a new area of this forum that was not part of the forum we used to use, a Facebook-style affair where users can post entirely apart from and largely unseen by most casual observers unless they sought out new profile posts or viewed a profile. The first kind increments a user’s post count, and is tracked by the Speaker’s spreadsheet for checking and maintaining citizenship. The second kind leaves no record at all, is not tracked by that spreadsheet, and must be sought out by the Speaker’s office. And if one wants to consider the significance of the meaning of words, profile posts are in their very name a particular kind of post identified differently from a standard forum post. Why is this a distinction if, as the Court asserts, they’re all forum posts?

On the Regional Forum
The majority relies on the fact that the Constitution defines the Regional Forum as the particular website in which it resides. This entire site, they argue, is the Regional Forum. If one were to go to the website on our Constitution, https://forum.thenorthpacific.org/, there are links to subforums and specific recent posts, laid out in their organization order, places any user would naturally go to in order to engage in the forum’s business. One place that it not prominent, however, are the individual user profiles. Indeed, a casual observer, one not logged into the forum, would not even be able to see these posts when looking. After all, profile posts are impossible to make without a profile, and therefore profiles cannot be seen either. The mistake made by the Speaker’s office that prompted this review was a result of the Speaker not being logged onto his profile, meaning he could not see Fregerson’s profile post that would have spared him the brief loss of citizenship. Just as profile posts are counted differently, profiles themselves are a kind of separate dimension on this forum. They require more work to find, completely separate themselves from the rest of the forum, function differently, and do not as easily promote engagement for the public and citizens alike that the rest of the forum does. This desire to prompt some kind of activity was clear in the Voting Rights Act debate, and is the closest thing to intent that we have for it and why the single post principle was where the Regional Assembly ultimately landed. Profile posts are not fit for this purpose and are clearly an entire class of their own.

The majority is quite concerned that distinguishing zones of the region’s forum in this way would introduce greater uncertainty to the law, and that such a distinction departs from the constitutional definition of what the forum is. This is silly. The forum is clearly identified by the Constitution, and just as we can all understand that a post comes in more than one form, we can all see that a forum can be both a website and an actual physical forum, and that the website can host multiple types of pages, including profile pages, that no one would make the mistake of referring to as a forum. I believe these distinctions matter and are relevant to how officials should handle matters, and the law ought to be clear, as the majority seems to want it to be, in how it addresses these things. I do not believe that forcing these distinctions to be treated in a “one size fits all” matter is the appropriate way to handle such questions, and while such simplicity may be innocent in this case, it does not take much imagination to see where neglecting nuance can quickly go wrong. One only need look at this Court’s checkered past with the law as it pertains to the North Pacific Army to see that.

On the Original Law
The Voting Rights Act proposed by former Delegate r3naissanc3r in 2014 is where the current standard for a single post a month “on the regional forum” was first established. There would have been no discussion of profile posts at this time as they did not exist. When this law was amended in former Delegate Siwale’s 2018 Citizenship Bill, it was amended to add the allowance for posts on the Regional Message Board. This rightfully received the focus of the ensuing debate, even though the bill was proposed on this current forum, and profile posts were now a possibility. Perhaps because the move was fresh and the question had not cropped up, or perhaps because no one thought of this application for the law, the notion of contemplating such posts in the law was not considered. As the majority says, we cannot consider assumed intent, and we cannot know whether either of these authors meant to include or leave out such posts (though we can be reasonably sure in the first instance that such a thing would not have been considered). These debates are not instructive in deciding how to apply intent anyway, as this question was not considered. But intent is not really the point either way this question is answered. In the first instance, this question simply could not exist, and we know the law could not have dealt with this scenario one way or the other, because profile posts were not a thing. In the second instance, the Regional Assembly painstakingly considered expanding the posting requirement to allow Regional Message Board posts, but spent not a single second on forum profiles. The majority does not consider the intent of the Regional Assembly any more than I do in answering this question, because in their view the Regional Assembly wrote a provision that is broad enough to encompass this form of posting as well, and leaves it up to them to tighten it up. My approach is the opposite: the Regional Assembly never contemplated, or was able to contemplate, this question, and so the law that exists cannot include such posting. This is where the ambiguity sits, and why there is a question to resolve, one that for going on 8 years the Regional Assembly has never bothered to tackle, preferring to rely on the Speaker’s office procedure for it.

On the Speaker’s Process
The Speaker’s office was naturally the first place to be confronted with this question, as it is relevant to their daily performance of their duty. A call had to be made, because this was a genuine point of ambiguity. A Speaker made a call a long time ago and subsequent Speakers have followed suit ever since. Since no one bothered to take the matter to the Regional Assembly, and since the only other time it was taken to this Court, it could not be considered, status quo has been maintained ever since. I do not fault the Speaker for making this call, as it was a valid dilemma that had to be resolved in short order. But properly speaking, this was not a call for the Speaker to make in the long term, and it is not a policy that the Speaker can dictate, because, of course, the Speaker cannot dictate policy of this sort. We have repeatedly affirmed that the Speaker’s duties are explicitly performative and that they do not have discretion in carrying them out. There are conditions that must be met, and the Speaker performs their duties according to the parameters of those conditions. When first presented with this question, the Speaker had to decide which of two potential actions, maintaining or removing an affected person’s citizenship, was the appropriate one. Inaction on the part of actors who could properly resolve this ambiguity led to the Speaker adopting this solution as part of its procedure going forward, in effect adopting its own form of citizenship policy.

It is true that the Court strives to give great deference to the Speaker in how it conducts the affairs under its purview, but this should not have been one of them. Such a decision goes beyond the normal or intended scope of the Speaker’s powers. In my view, this is an unfortunate side effect of this question being left unresolved for so long, and while the majority’s opinion renders it moot as it grants legal cover to this interpretation, the question of just how far the Speaker’s discretion can extend when that discretion effectively rewrites policy should have been explored at some sort of length. Instead, the majority asserts that the Speaker did not exercise any discretion with this choice, as they assumed they were applying the law as written and had no other choice. We know that is not true, however, as a deputy speaker attempted to file a request for review posing the very question we have been answering in this case. The majority agrees with me that the Regional Assembly or even this Court must clearly identify the appropriate response, and make this call, but go on to insinuate that administrative action coming down on one side will be an inevitable result if an unambiguous answer is not determined. Even if it wasn’t already obvious that the Speaker affirmatively chose one side over the other when it was not their decision to make, the fact that the Speaker is unknowingly making a choice that is not theirs to make does not make that choice legally permissible. The limits of the law are what they are, and if an accidental overstepping of boundaries is found, it must be properly addressed.

On the Application of the Bill of Rights
The majority relies as well on what the Bill of Rights requires of government officials when executing policy. They assert that profile posts being considered or not considered in a consistent way is sufficient for these purposes. The problem here, of course, is that such a standard is impossible. Every Speaker and deputy are trained in the use of the citizenship spreadsheet, running regular checks and performing their duty of removing citizens who do not meet the requirements based on operating that spreadsheet. Outside of technical errors, the process is the same for every person, and they can go about performing the task in the same way. Due to this ambiguity being confronted many years ago, the Speaker’s office has maintained a process for incorporating profile post checks into the evaluation as well. It is not part of the straightforward spreadsheet process, but requires manual checks by the Speaker or deputies. As has been previously established, profile posts cannot even be seen when logged out of the forum, a factor that is irrelevant in the case of the spreadsheet as logging into the forum is unnecessary for that process.

The fact that the Speaker was unaware of this until the events covered by this review indicate that for the duration of this hybrid checking scheme, many individuals who did not post on the forum proper but had made profile posts may have had their citizenship removed. Anyone who meets the standard forum posting requirement would not need profiles checked, whereas those who do not would need this additional, and fallible, check conducted. The public record is full of instances where ordinary human error enters into the picture, and that is just for those who have the benefit of the spreadsheet when their citizenship is checked. It may be the case that catching those whose profile posts save their citizenship may increase participation and benefit those who would otherwise have lost it on the margins, but it is a lot easier for them to accidentally lose their status despite the Speaker’s process. The two processes are not equal, with one being more prone to error and by its nature harder to track. A more robust spreadsheet or mechanism for counting all posts would likely alleviate this issue, and the fact that this inconsistency exists creates room for some citizens to be in a riskier boat than the rest. It should not be enough that the Speaker always (or always means to) check manually for profile posts, if the act of checking is itself inconsistent across the citizenry.

The majority asserts that the matter of being logged out is not worthy of such consideration, as the Speaker must eventually be logged in to post removals of citizenship. That is certainly true. But if until recently the office was unaware of the invisibility of profile posts when logged out, no member of that office would have been likely to second-guess themselves when making the removal posts and look for profile posts again. And the fact this is now known by the current Speaker does not mean it will always be known. We can assume better training and guides and an attempt to maintain education in the office, but these are not guaranteed nor may they necessarily last. We have to consider the fundamentals of the forum and the basics of the process, and they create a scenario where potentially inconsistent methods of verifying citizenship eligibility may lead to disparate outcomes. The majority also suggests that not being able to see certain subforums when logged out is the same as not being able to see profile posts, as if to suggest that the lack of access is no big deal and even unobjectionable. But it is relevant to whether a less capable or attentive member of the Speaker’s office may overlook something important and treat some citizens differently from others. Seeing certain subforums is not important in confirming whether a citizen’s status is to continue or end, but not seeing profile areas when they are required to be considered by Speaker policy is a blind spot. The majority glosses over this.

Status of Citizenship
Given all of this, I can only insist that profile posts not be considered valid posting for the purposes of the existing citizenship law. This would, of course, mean that any citizen whose status was maintained on this basis would have been improperly allowed to retain their citizenship. It is impossible to know how many only retain their citizenship today because of this policy, nor would it be fair given the Speaker’s office has relied on a long-held practice that all citizens have been made to count on. As the Court has handled this sort of situation previously, there would need to be an allowance for prior practice and an effort to change the practice moving forward. All citizens, including Fregerson, should retain their citizenship maintained on the basis of the old policy. There is no reason to open the door to chaos just because a long-standing practice is found to be in error and in need of correction, when it is simpler to draw this line.

Conclusion
I would have held that posting on forum profiles would not count as posting on the forum under the current legal code, and that the Speaker must cease counting such posts for the purposes of confirming continued citizenship. Furthermore, following our existing precedent regarding applying such orders to practices that stretch back many years and impact an unknowable number of citizens, I would have held that Fregerson’s citizenship would continue to be maintained along with all other citizens who may have improperly retained their citizenship by virtue of having made profile posts, with the Speaker applying these orders to all future citizenship checks.
 
And now that the ruling has been posted, I can present my Root Cause Analysis for this issue and why it was even brought up in the first place. I originally thought I had no ability to do so, but it turns out that was false. To be clear, my RCA was performed after briefs had closed.

The reason I did not see the Profile Post that Fregerson made was because profile posts are hidden to those who are signed out of the forum. Instead of showing the profile posts when visiting a profile, the forum will say "The news feed is currently empty." When viewing a member's postings tab, the profile posts simply won't appear.

But, why would I not be signed into the forum? As a Google Chrome user, I have two separate profiles, one for my personal 'real-life' identity, and one for my NationStates identity. The different profiles are able to see different Google Docs (and Sheets), with my NS profile seeing all of the stuff that keeps TNP running. However, because I do most of my browsing under my personal chrome profile, I'm signed into the TNP forum with that. My NS profile is not signed into the forum, and in fact when I need to use The Voting Booth, I'll do so under my NS profile. That's why you'll sometimes see both me and The Voting Booth signed in simultaneously when I am in fact controlling both.

When performing citizenship checks, I needed to be on my NS chrome profile to run all the scripts that do all of the checks. My personal chrome profile can't do that. However, when verifying whether someone had not posted on the forum, if I followed the link on the spreadsheet, it was opening a new tab in my NS profile window, which was logged out of the forum. That is how I missed Fregerson's profile post. If I had opened the link to Fregerson's postings tab in my personal chrome profile, I would have seen it, I would not have originally stripped Fregerson's citizenship, and thus not have had a reason to then restore it, and Tlomz would have noticed nothing to bring a case forward.

However, I suppose it's a good thing this all happened, because now we have a definitive answer on the issue which often boggled those in the Speaker's Office. Thus, I thank the Court for its time.
 
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