Sil Dorsett:
Praetor:
(I'll reply in a bit explaining why unless someone else does)
Don't wait. Go for it now. Part of the discussion is seeing whether other people agree with your thoughts on the issue.
I was just doing some research/hoping someone else would post so I wouldn't have to write something.
First and foremost, I oppose this on Out Of Character grounds. The author of this proposal is highly suspect, due to the posts in the thread, we know that Unibot had a hand in the writing of the proposal. To what extent is not known, however, Former Delegate of TWP, Bhang Bhang Duc "suspects, but can't prove, that [the author] actually only wrote a proportion of this proposal" copying the majority of the proposal verbatim from his telegrams with Unibot. I personally share his suspicions.
Now, Unibot is forum banned from TNP and essentially ostracized from the wider NS community for OOC reasons. He has taken up a recent habit of attempting to manipulate other nations (frequently badge hunters) to follow his suggestions and advance his agenda. I don't think that The North Pacific should have a hand in enabling his attempt at relevance in NS.
As well, the submitter of the proposal has a history of rule breaking and lying about it. He's also been ejected from out ally, Europeia, for spamming them.
Neither of the two individuals involved in this text coming to vote are reputable.
Now, as for the proposal itself, it isn't that fantastic...
CONGRATULATING The Rejected Realms on achieving a stable and safe democracy without being able to issue bans and ejections, and for accepting nations with open arms.
I would argue that it's actually
because they are unable to issue ban and ejections that they are a democracy. Dictatorships thrive off of being able to silence or remove dissenters. It seems only natural that for a region in which everyone is forced to come together that it will eventually organize itself in a form of democracy. I would hardly argue that TRR is stable and safe, they are under threat whenever a raider army piles past their Delegate. Lastly, the vast majority of regions accept nations with open arms (and it's especially in TRR's interests to do so giving their lack of capabilities for recruiting).
RECOGNISING The Rejected Realms on having the oldest army of any region, the RRA (Rejected Realms Army). This army is a defender army and strives for interregional peace and prosperity.
I'm somewhat doubtful that they have the oldest army but I'll trust it (someone has to be first after all) but I hardly think being the first region with an army is commendable. Striving for interregional and prosperity? Seems like a bit of a stretch. I don't really see any examples on how they did that. And, of late, I hardly hear anything about the RRA compared to other defender organizations (TGW most notably).
ACKNOWLEDGING that The Rejected Realms is a diplomatic ally with many regions who works towards international peace. Without The Rejected Realms's efforts, progress towards international peace would have slowed down significantly.
Okay, great, they have allies. Most regions do. Again, lack of evidence here (or in the thread) demonstrating TRR's contributions towards "peace".
THANKING The Rejected Realms for their assistance and leadership of several missions to liberate regions in distress including but not limited to:
- Japan, a small region with high influence.
- The South Pacific, one of the largest feeder regions.
- Hogwarts, another small region with high influence.
- Lazarus, a fellow defender region with extremely high influence.
Alright, this is good.
I'd argue that Japan and Hogwarts aren't of that importance (also think thanking is a weird verb to use here). I'd like to point out that TNP also contributed in Laz and TSP's defence as well. TNP was largely attributed to being responsible for the liberation of Laz. Also, TNP contributed to Osiris's security. Just a reminder that Commend TNP was not passed despite pointing these out.
APPLAUDING The Rejected Realms's successful defence of 10000 Islands in 2003. Despite 10000 Islands not being a defender region at the time, it's successful defence would eventually lead to it becoming one of the largest and most influential Defender regions in the world.
Okay, this is impressive as well. However, I think it should be merged with the previous clause. I also think that this proposal shouldn't try to attribute 10KI's success to TRR.
MOVED by The Rejected Realms's outstanding cultural diversity, with no limits to its endless array of different nations. This cultural diversity allows nations unfamiliar or new to the The Rejected Realms to participate in a vast plethora of activities, discussions, and the inclusion that many regions lack.
Okay, this is fluff. What GCR doesn't do this? The vast majority of mainstream regions do this as well (that aren't focused around a particular nation). I'd also like to point out that TRR doesn't have a choice in this instance. They can't eject nations they don't like.
ESTABLISHING The Rejected Realms as a unique region due to its periodic regional newspaper (The Rejected Times), which documents and records events across Nationstates for everyone to read.
Unique? Pretty much every main region has a newspaper! Again, I'd like to remind everyone that this newspaper often functioned as a propaganda piece for the aforementioned Unibot targetting TNP. (I'll go dumpster diving in a bit for links). Links! Apparently
this one shows that information from our Private Halls was published and
this is a statement by r3n and McM about Unibot's PNG. I wasn't around for that time so I am only able to provide links and am unable to confirm the veracity.
DISTINGUISHING The Rejected Realms for being a founder member of the ADN, and later being an influential member of the FRA. Their contributions kept the FRA running for many years after, with many of the Arch Chancellors of the FRA coming from The Rejected Realms.
Okay, again, commendable I think,
if the ADN or FRA were still around...
APPALLED that The Rejected Realms has been underappreciated for so long, and has failed thus far to be noticed by the esteemed members of the World Assembly for its outstanding performance and resolve.
Fluff.
KNOWING that with the passage of this resolution that The Rejected Realms can only continue to strive for international peace and success.
Fluff.
HEREBY Commends The Rejected Realms for outstanding performance, resolve, diversity, and courage
Fluff.
Holistically, while there are parts that are impressive, the text by itself (ignoring itself) doesn't present a strong enough case for a Commendation for TRR. It relies heavily on buzzwords such as "peace and success" but I do not believe it demonstrates it enough. I'd also recommend comparing this to the proposal to Commend TNP which was not passed. I don't think this resolution is better than that.
I'm not opposed to a Commendation for TRR, however, I don't think this is the proposal for it.
EDIT: Sources, clarification and grammar.
