[Complete][Complete] Condemn The CAIN

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Category: Condemnation
Nominee: The CAIN
Proposed by: Indo-Malaysia
Onsite Topic

Dismayed at the aggressive libel performed by The CAIN towards KAISERREICH, falsely portraying it as a Nazi Region whilst disregarding evidence that suggests otherwise

Abhorred at CAIN's attempted raids of Femdom Empire, a clear cut Feminist region

Discontent that the 'evidence' provided by CAIN about the aforementioned regions consists of dated records and past leaders even denounced by those very regions

Further Dismayed at the labelling of regions which have established embassies of such regions as 'Nazi Collaborators' without any regard for such regions

Horrified that CAIN has smeared the reputations of almost a hundred regions by denouncing them through their liberally usage of the terms 'Nazi Region' and 'Nazi Collaborator

Infuriated that many regions have suffered as a result of the aforementioned slander

Bewildered as to why a region would be labelled as a Nazi Collaborator solely for having established embassies with supposed 'Nazi Regions'

Denunciating this activity for being counterproductive to the Anti-Nazi movement

Concerned that CAIN's liberal use of the label "Nazi" will render the term meaningless

Affirmative that the condemnation of The CAIN is necessary towards a long-term effort to cease the liberal labelling and aggressive campaign for regions to break ties with such labelled regions

Yearning that the condemnation will lead to signatories realising the blatant flaws and potentially reform the CAIN or create a new, more exemplary and meticulous organisation to truly suppress the Nazi Ideology as opposed to targeting regions based on outdated 'evidence' and embassies

The World Assembly hereby condemns The CAIN

Please vote For, Against, Abstain, or Present.
 
This resolution seeks to condemn the Coalition Against the Ideology of Nazism, an interregional organization founded for the purpose of rooting out Nazism in NationStates. Its main complaint is the labelling of KAISERREICH as a Nazi region, which was rightfully done on account of the use of Nazi imagery and anti-Semitic remarks from their leaders, including the founder. It also complains about the labeling of regions with embassies with Nazi regions as Nazi collaborators, but this is essential to the mission of isolating Nazis and preventing the spread of their hateful rhetoric. The previous iteration of this proposal, which was voted on back in December, made the same complaint, was without merit, and was rejected. This version is no different.

For these reasons, the Ministry of World Assembly Affairs recommends a vote against the resolution.
 
As long as CAIN exists and as long as there are people who disagree with CAIN's approach to the issue of Nazism in NS, condemn CAIN proposals will periodically come down the pipeline.
 
Mystery Player:
I know this isn't a vote, but curious on people's reasoning for voting against.
We're a CAIN signatory. The RA voted on it a while back, and we adopted it 34-7. So asking the Delegate to vote For condemning that organization is a bit much, and most of us will ourselves vote against it.

EDIT: You may find the RA debate useful as well.
 
Darcania:
Mystery Player:
I know this isn't a vote, but curious on people's reasoning for voting against.
We're a CAIN signatory. The RA voted on it a while back, and we adopted it 34-7. So asking the Delegate to vote For condemning that organization is a bit much, and most of us will ourselves vote against it.

EDIT: You may find the RA debate useful as well.
I get we are part of it, but why do we find there to be nothing wrong with it?
 
Mystery Player:
I get we are part of it, but why do we find there to be nothing wrong with it?
It's not that we find nothing wrong with it, it's the fact that it is undeserving of a Condemnation for the faults that it does have (and I've seen efforts to improve it if the gameside forums are anything to go by) and that it would do us no good in our foreign relations to vote to Condemn an organization we are part of. Condemning a region to point out that it could be good if it had improvement is also just a bad move in general, and that's what this proposal is attempting.
 
Condemnations basically should be seen as the Commendations for players or groups that play the bad guy but do it well - like Condemns for great RPers of evil nations who are actually nice and helpful people, or condemn TBH (one of the nicest groups of people I've ever met), etc.
 
Voting on this resolution has ended.

Thanks to those nations who cast their votes. Your participation is a great help to the region.

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