A civil war in The United States of New Sekai?

Mr Insanity

Mr Insanity

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I'm planning to have The United States of New Sekai having a major civil war (10,000 or more deaths each year.) but only Sado, Daishi Ni, Sebunsu, Daihachi and part of Fifusu states (So in the east of The United States of New Sekai will be in a civil war, aswell I'm planning to have the civil war spillover bit in The Democratic Imperial Union of New Haven America and The Viking Empire of Norway XXVIII. (If they agreed do it.)).

Here the future information of the civil war:

The United States of New Sekai's Civil War:
Date: 7th of May 2015 - 7th of May 2016.
Location: Mainly in The United States of New Sekai. Spillover in The Democratic Imperial Union of New Haven America and The Viking Empire of Noway XXVIII.
Result:
  • The military crackdown on the activists against The United States of New Sekai's Constitution Party, authorized by The United States of New Sekai's Constitution Party but not The Monarchy of The United States of New Sekai on the 30th of April 2015. (http://forum.thenorthpacific.org/topic/7384909/1/?x=90#new ).
  • The removal of The United States of New Sekai's Constitution Party from the government and replace the president with a acting president on the 1st of May 2015.
  • The United States of New Sekai's Constitution Party declare illegal party and banned from the elections on the 7th of May 2015.
  • The United States of New Sekai's Constitution Party declare a liberation and independence war against The monarchy and the new government on the 7th of May 2015. (http://forum.thenorthpacific.org/topic/7388037/1/?x=90#new ).
  • The East of The United States of New Sekai declare independence from The United States of New Sekai on the 7th of May 2016.
New government and Monarchy:
  • The United States of New Sekai's Armed Forces.
  • And more.
Foreign Involvement and Support:
  • The North Pacific Treaty Organization:
    • The North Pacific Treaty Organization's Peacekeeping Forces.
    • And more.
  • The Empire of The Watching Nebula.
  • The Triple Federation for Trinster.
  • The Provincial State of Cronaal. (Medical support).
  • The Dispute Territories of Territorio Di Nessuno. (Peacekeeping, Medical and Air support).
  • The Kingdom of DavidLand.
  • The Grand Duchy of Golfia.
  • The Grand Federation of Xentherdia.
  • The Imperial Military Khanate of The Kingdom of Wolfsea.
  • The United States of Thatchertropolis.
  • The Republic of United Llamas.
  • The Allied Dragon Clans of Darcania.
  • The Environmentalist Utopia of Hiskjriaana. (Medical and Air support).
  • And more.
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Opposition:
  • The United States of New Sekai's Constitution Party.
  • And more.
Foreign Involvement and Support:
  • The Mafiosi (Supplying weapons.)
  • The Kingdom of DavidLand (Alleged funding and supplying).
  • The Kaisherreich Kannex (Alleged supplying weapons).
  • And more.

Anyway, that it for now. If you want your nation to get involve with this then post on this topic, or want to help me out with this again then post on this topic.​
 
Nebula:
Is either side socialist?
I'll probably support the government, if not.
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The New Government and Monarchy are on the left to centre side of the political spectrum.
The oppositions are on the right to centre side of the political spectrum.

Ok then.
 
Would you be ok if i used the MK5-U (urban) Battle Armour in this RP, it is a (rather basic for some standards) hydraulic powered suit of Armour that lets Trinnish troops carry larger weapons and have better Armour, but is only deployed on a squad by squad basis (its very expensive, so its only used for things of utmost importance)
 
I am under the impression that we are using modern tech for this RP forum.

Specifically, what issues will the combatants of this civil war fight over? What will spark off the conflict, and if our intelligence services look into the conflict deeper, what hidden background causes will we find? At this point, the conservative Kaiserreich has little incentive to intervene, save economic.
 
darn, i taught that their similarity to the prototype exosuits that DARPA tested would make them MT. Oh well, ill just stick to my guns :P
 
Syrixia will remain neutral and provide NPTOPF forces to keep peace should the need arise for an operation.
 
Kannex:
I am under the impression that we are using modern tech for this RP forum.

Specifically, what issues will the combatants of this civil war fight over? What will spark off the conflict, and if our intelligence services look into the conflict deeper, what hidden background causes will we find? At this point, the conservative Kaiserreich has little incentive to intervene, save economic.
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The main issues of this civil war fighting over are tyrannical and corruption for The United States of New Sekai's Constitution Party over an month and in the election. (I mean they being corrupted party in the election.)
 
Mr Insanity:
Nebula:
Is either side socialist?
I'll probably support the government, if not.
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The New Government and Monarchy are on the left to centre side of the political spectrum.
The oppositions are on the right to centre side of the political spectrum.

Ok then.
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I'll support the government then.

Question: how will this affect the alliance negotiations?
 
We could provide Peacekeeping forces, medical supplies and air support.

(NOTE: our peacekeeping forces is pretty different by others, while the other deal to keep the peace and protect the civilians our deal only to protect civilians, and they don't make too much trouble to open fire against any threats to these).
 
Nebula:
Mr Insanity:
Nebula:
Is either side socialist?
I'll probably support the government, if not.
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The New Government and Monarchy are on the left to centre side of the political spectrum.
The oppositions are on the right to centre side of the political spectrum.

Ok then.
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I'll support the government then.

Question: how will this affect the alliance negotiations?
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Ok then.

It won't really much affect the alliance negations, because the civil war only be in the eastern part of The United States of New Sekai (Mainly).
 
Nessuno:
We could provide Peacekeeping forces, medical supplies and air support.

(NOTE: our peacekeeping forces is pretty different by others, while the other deal to keep the peace and protect the civilians our deal only to protect civilians, and they don't make too much trouble to open fire against any threats to these).
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Ok then.
 
The Constitution Party doesn't preach free trade? Interesting.

Kannex still doesn't have much incentive to join; ideologically Kannex isn't antidemocratic enough to want to intervene. But Kannex will discreetly sell weapons to the Constitution Party baddies, because it seems nobody else will.

Also, why is the Const. Party considered 'the opposition'? They won the elections, even if they were allegedly fraud elections, so aren't they the governing party as of now? The anti-Const. Party forces would then be 'the opposition,' and they would ironically -- to some portion of observers -- be antidemocratic, by opposing the legitimate elections that brought the Const. Party to power.
 
Kannex:
The Constitution Party doesn't preach free trade? Interesting.

Kannex still doesn't have much incentive to join; ideologically Kannex isn't antidemocratic enough to want to intervene. But Kannex will discreetly sell weapons to the Constitution Party baddies, because it seems nobody else will.

Also, why is the Const. Party considered 'the opposition'? They won the elections, even if they were allegedly fraud elections, so aren't they the governing party as of now? The anti-Const. Party forces would then be 'the opposition,' and they would ironically -- to some portion of observers -- be antidemocratic, by opposing the legitimate elections that brought the Const. Party to power.
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Yeah.

Ok then. I put you as alleged selling weapons to them.

The reason why The United States of New Sekai's Constitution Party considered to be oppositions because The monarchy considered still more powerful then any other parties in The United States of New Sekai beside they have little bit control of The United States of New Sekai. Aswell, the new government is a new elected party.
 
So, after New Sekai finally democratizes and hosts its first democratic elections, the power-monopolizing monarchy launches a coup and deposes the legitimately-elected government... the Constitution Party sound like the good guys here.
 
Kannex:
So, after New Sekai finally democratizes and hosts its first democratic elections, the power-monopolizing monarchy launches a coup and deposes the legitimately-elected government... the Constitution Party sound like the good guys here.
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No, I mean The monarchy and armed forces have coup The United States of New Sekai's Constitution Party because of being a corruption party in the election and the party are tyrannical and corruption in one month. Aswell, make them as illegal party now. Which they the bad guys still. Meanwhile after, the coup The monarchy allowed The United States of New Sekai have another election, then there is a new elected party being the new government.
 
By definition, a coup is an illegal seizure of government power. So after the monarchy accuses the Constitution Party of corruption, it proceeds to launch a coup and negate the results of the country's first democratic elections, hereby destroying the country's democratic future. Allegedly, the Constitution Party is corrupt and tyrannical, but one could say that these are baseless accusations by the monarchy and opposing parties, and that the Constitution Party is actually fair and supported by the people. Who's to say they're tyrannical? After all, without even letting the democratic process run and the new Const. Party elects govern for any substantial period of time, the "antidemocratic" monarchy forces launch a coup and declare the Const. Party illegal.

I'm just saying, this is how the situation can be seen -- the Const. Party wouldn't be the complete bad guys here.
 
Kannex:
By definition, a coup is an illegal seizure of government power. So after the monarchy accuses the Constitution Party of corruption, it proceeds to launch a coup and negate the results of the country's first democratic elections, hereby destroying the country's democratic future. Allegedly, the Constitution Party is corrupt and tyrannical, but one could say that these are baseless accusations by the monarchy and opposing parties, and that the Constitution Party is actually fair and supported by the people. Who's to say they're tyrannical? After all, without even letting the democratic process run and the new Const. Party elects govern for any substantial period of time, the "antidemocratic" monarchy forces launch a coup and declare the Const. Party illegal.

I'm just saying, this is how the situation can be seen -- the Const. Party wouldn't be the complete bad guys here.
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I'd just like to weigh in here and point out that quite a few of us here---such as me and Nessuno---are currently in alliance negotiations with New Sekai, so that's our incentive for helping them.
 
Nebula:
Kannex:
By definition, a coup is an illegal seizure of government power. So after the monarchy accuses the Constitution Party of corruption, it proceeds to launch a coup and negate the results of the country's first democratic elections, hereby destroying the country's democratic future. Allegedly, the Constitution Party is corrupt and tyrannical, but one could say that these are baseless accusations by the monarchy and opposing parties, and that the Constitution Party is actually fair and supported by the people. Who's to say they're tyrannical? After all, without even letting the democratic process run and the new Const. Party elects govern for any substantial period of time, the "antidemocratic" monarchy forces launch a coup and declare the Const. Party illegal.

I'm just saying, this is how the situation can be seen -- the Const. Party wouldn't be the complete bad guys here.
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I'd just like to weigh in here and point out that quite a few of us here---such as me and Nessuno---are currently in alliance negotiations with New Sekai, so that's our incentive for helping them.
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Aren't you in negotiations with the government of New Sekai, as led by the newly-elected Constitutional Party?
 
Kannex:
By definition, a coup is an illegal seizure of government power. So after the monarchy accuses the Constitution Party of corruption, it proceeds to launch a coup and negate the results of the country's first democratic elections, hereby destroying the country's democratic future. Allegedly, the Constitution Party is corrupt and tyrannical, but one could say that these are baseless accusations by the monarchy and opposing parties, and that the Constitution Party is actually fair and supported by the people. Who's to say they're tyrannical? After all, without even letting the democratic process run and the new Const. Party elects govern for any substantial period of time, the "antidemocratic" monarchy forces launch a coup and declare the Const. Party illegal.

I'm just saying, this is how the situation can be seen -- the Const. Party wouldn't be the complete bad guys here.
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Sorry, I didn't really want explain it properly before because I don't want to ruined it, before I posted the reason why the civil war started. Here's the topic explaining the reason why The United States of New Sekai's Constitution Party are corruption and tyrannical party (Sort of): http://forum.thenorthpacific.org/topic/7384909/1/?x=90#new .
 
Kannex:
Nebula:
Kannex:
By definition, a coup is an illegal seizure of government power. So after the monarchy accuses the Constitution Party of corruption, it proceeds to launch a coup and negate the results of the country's first democratic elections, hereby destroying the country's democratic future. Allegedly, the Constitution Party is corrupt and tyrannical, but one could say that these are baseless accusations by the monarchy and opposing parties, and that the Constitution Party is actually fair and supported by the people. Who's to say they're tyrannical? After all, without even letting the democratic process run and the new Const. Party elects govern for any substantial period of time, the "antidemocratic" monarchy forces launch a coup and declare the Const. Party illegal.

I'm just saying, this is how the situation can be seen -- the Const. Party wouldn't be the complete bad guys here.
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I'd just like to weigh in here and point out that quite a few of us here---such as me and Nessuno---are currently in alliance negotiations with New Sekai, so that's our incentive for helping them.
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Aren't you in negotiations with the government of New Sekai, as led by the newly-elected Constitutional Party?
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No, it's with the monarchy.
 
As the Kingdom of DavidLand supports both Monarchies and Right wing governments, I would like to enter the fight on both sides. Openly supporting the Monarchy while secretly funding, supplying, and establishing diplomatic relations with the constitutional party.
 
Mr Insanity:
Cronaal:
Cronaal is able to give medical support, we can speak details if you wish to.
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Ok then and yeah.
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Okay, here's a quick list of what we'll supply:

800 Nurses and Doctors
200 Volunteers
15 Large shipments of medicinal supplies
Equipment (Tents, Beds etc.)

Of course, these won't all be sent straight away.
If I'm underestimating or overestimating the magnitude of the war, please tell me.
 
david_:
As the Kingdom of DavidLand supports both Monarchies and Right wing governments, I would like to enter the fight on both sides. Openly supporting the Monarchy while secretly funding, supplying, and establishing diplomatic relations with the constitutional party.
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Ok then. I put you as alleged funding them and supporting the monarchy and the new government.
 
Cronaal:
Mr Insanity:
Cronaal:
Cronaal is able to give medical support, we can speak details if you wish to.
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Ok then and yeah.
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Okay, here's a quick list of what we'll supply:

800 Nurses and Doctors
200 Volunteers
15 Large shipments of medicinal supplies
Equipment (Tents, Beds etc.)

Of course, these won't all be sent straight away.
If I'm underestimating or overestimating the magnitude of the war, please tell me.
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Ok. I think that is alright for it.
 
Hold up. HOLD UP. So you agree with me that Golfia needs to take a more peaceful approach and then YOU THANK THEM, ONE MINUTE LATER for providing planes and other instruments of aerial death?​
:duh:​
 
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