[Complete]AT VOTE: Liberate Nazi Europe[Archived]

Mahaj

Mahaj

TNPer
The Security Council,

NOTING that NAZI EUROPE is one of the oldest remaining fascist regions in the world and that it promotes the insidious ideology of National Socialism by its very existence;

RECALLING that NAZI EUROPE has engaged in numerous acts of unprovoked and unjustified aggression against other regions, including acts of regional destruction;

FURTHER RECALLING the history of hostility toward the World Assembly by the government of NAZI EUROPE;

ACKNOWLEDGING the diplomatic relationship between NAZI EUROPE and The Greater German Reich, another fascist region with a long history of unprovoked and unjustified invasion and destruction of other regions;

OBSERVING that on 5 October 2012 the Delegate of NAZI EUROPE, The Darkened Soul of German Dragons, barred free entry to the region, presumably to protect it from potential invasion;

FURTHER OBSERVING that this tactic has been used many times in the past to protect NAZI EUROPE from potential invasion;

REAFFIRMING the mission statement of the Security Council: "Spreading interregional peace and goodwill, via force if necessary";

RECOGNIZING that NAZI EUROPE has historically posed a significant threat to interregional peace and goodwill, and seeing no indication that it will cease to pose such a threat in the near future;

DECLARING that the Security Council must be prepared to use the powers at its disposal to allow other regions to respond with the use of force to threats posed to interregional peace and goodwill;

HOPING that the liberation of NAZI EUROPE, thereby permanently restoring free entry to the region, will better enable other regions to respond to threats posed by NAZI EUROPE and its allies;

HEREBY Liberates NAZI EUROPE.
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Written by Cormac.

Currently at Votes For: 690 (34%)

Votes Against: 1,353 (66%)

"Amongst The North Pacific residents, voting is currently 19-23 (54% Against)."
 
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The Minister of the World Assembly has examined this resolution.

Most liberation resolutions are written to protect. Regardless of your opinion on raiding/defending, this is an undeniable fact. However, this resolution does something different. It attempts to liberate, not to protect, but to attack.

Cormac has presented the view that Nazi Europe is a threat to the world. If you believe this, the liberation resolution makes sense. Opening up the region to attacks would hurt Nazi Europe, and help the world. It would also prevent Nazi Europe's allies from being able to attack other regions. This is essentially the entire resolution, summed up.

On the other hand, the natives of Nazi Europe have opposed this. So if you believe that Nazi Europe deserves the same fundamental rights afforded to all other regions, then opening it up for attack is nonsensical.

Additionally, one could have worry about precedent. If you supported the use of liberations for protection, a liberation for attacking could conceivable diminish the value of a liberation, and harm the chances for future, more important, liberations to succeed.

As myself, I vote Against this resolution, as the precedent that would be set by this resolution is worrisome, to me.
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NB: The policy sticky will be updated today, but in the meanwhile:

Any TNP citizen or WA nation may vote, but if you vote elsewhere you must disclose. Failure to disclose may be punished in a three strikes system.
 
For.

I have voted elsewhere. Where I have voted is not something you need to know.
 
This is your strike one, MadJack. Your vote will be counted in accordance with Strike 1 being a warning.

Strike 2 will result in your vote not being counted. Strike 3 will result in a ban from voting on WA resolutions for up to 3 months.
 
Against. I don't think that we have a right to impose our beliefs on other regions. Every region has a right to self-determination.

I voted this way in Balder.
 
Eluvatar:
This is your strike one, MadJack. Your vote will be counted in accordance with Strike 1 being a warning.

Strike 2 will result in your vote not being counted. Strike 3 will result in a ban from voting on WA resolutions for up to 3 months.
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You have no authority to do so. the WA Voting law hasn't been voted on yet.
 
Govindia:
You have no authority to do so. the WA Voting law hasn't been voted on yet.
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Actually, he has full authority to do so. In the absence of a law stating otherwise the Delegate can vote on WA resolutions in any way that he wants, which means he can also decide whose votes to count and when.
 
Cormac Stark:
Govindia:
You have no authority to do so. the WA Voting law hasn't been voted on yet.
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Actually, he has full authority to do so. In the absence of a law stating otherwise the Delegate can vote on WA resolutions in any way that he wants, which means he can also decide whose votes to count and when.
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Not in the manner he did with the three strike thing
 
Govindia:
Cormac Stark:
Govindia:
You have no authority to do so. the WA Voting law hasn't been voted on yet.
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Actually, he has full authority to do so. In the absence of a law stating otherwise the Delegate can vote on WA resolutions in any way that he wants, which means he can also decide whose votes to count and when.
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Not in the manner he did with the three strike thing
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While you mightn't agree - he seems to be within the law as far as I can see.
 
Eluvatar:
This is your strike one, MadJack. Your vote will be counted in accordance with Strike 1 being a warning.

Strike 2 will result in your vote not being counted. Strike 3 will result in a ban from voting on WA resolutions for up to 3 months.
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What for? I've disclosed that I've voted elsewhere. Nothing in your policy, as far as I know, seeing as you haven't bothered to post in the WA forums, states that I have to disclose exactly where I've voted.

As it is, yet again you're imposing an unfair, regionalist policy that assumes anyone who votes elsewhere is less of a TNP citizen. If you want to make yet another tier of citizenship, then I'd ask you to do it openly, perhaps with a 'Cosmopolitan Scum' masking.
 
Eluvatar:
This is your strike one, MadJack. Your vote will be counted in accordance with Strike 1 being a warning.

Strike 2 will result in your vote not being counted. Strike 3 will result in a ban from voting on WA resolutions for up to 3 months.
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The iron fist within the velvet glove. I love it. It is flemingovianism exemplified. :flemingovia1:
 
I've voted against - with my main - so I've obviously registered my vote in the region for which I am a delegate. I've also expressed my opinion on the forums for Texas, Osiris, and Europeia.
 
SC Resolution at Vote: Liberate NAZI EUROPE
http://forum.thenorthpacific.org/topic/6969414/

10 for (Chasmanthe, Cormac Stark, Earth22 IV, Blue Wolf II, United Alesia{*}, Northern Flemingovia, KiwiTaicho, Tim, Scandigrad, McMasterdonia );
4 against (Mall*, Jamie Anumia*, Ramaba*, God n Country n Byron);
0 abstain;
0 present

To vote one must have a WA nation in TNP or be a TNP Citizen. One must disclose any other regions one votes on the WA resolution in. I vote for if most of the votes are in for, and against if most of the votes are against. I don't count "present" votes as votes for this. This means that a vote for abstain is a vote against my voting either way.

Zemnaya Svoboda voted for the World Assembly Resolution "Liberate NAZI EUROPE".
 
One must disclose any other regions one votes on the WA resolution in.
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Explain the legality for this disclosure?

While I may disagree with madjack at times, I will support him in this regard. There is no reason to require where else one votes.
 
That is the WA Affairs Ministry policy as defined by Directive 0x01 and adopted by the Council of Five under the executive powers of the office of Delegate.
 
Adding that I voted in Equilism.

If I could have my vote withdrawn here, that would be appreciated. I do stand by one person, one vote.
 
Hello everyone, first post in the forums, by the way :)

At first I think this was a "liberate" resolution like many others before but now I know it's not, so my vote will be:

AGAINST

I vote only as WA member in TNP and I have not voted elsewhere.
 
SC Resolution at Vote: Liberate NAZI EUROPE
http://forum.thenorthpacific.org/topic/6969414/

12 for (Chasmanthe, Cormac Stark, Earth22 IV, Blue Wolf II, United Alesia{*}, Northern Flemingovia, KiwiTaicho, Scandigrad, McMasterdonia, Funkadelia Island, Great Bights Mum, Gladio );
5 against (Mall*, Jamie Anumia*, Ramaba*, God n Country n Byron, Ehlnar);
0 abstain;
0 present

To vote one must have a WA nation in TNP or be a TNP Citizen. One must disclose any other regions one votes on the WA resolution in. I vote for if most of the votes are in for, and against if most of the votes are against. I don't count "present" votes as votes for this. This means that a vote for abstain is a vote against my voting either way.

Zemnaya Svoboda still voting for the World Assembly Resolution "Liberate NAZI EUROPE".
 
I just wanted to say thank you to all who have voted for the resolution. :)

I have also now voted in Osiris and updated my vote post to reflect that.
 
For - for the reason that it may set a precedent by which overly aggressive and destructive regions can be got at. That and it would also be really fun to liberate the Hell out of Nazi Europe. :evil:


Voted Here and only Here. TNP Forever!
 
Tim:
Adding that I voted in Equilism.

If I could have my vote withdrawn here, that would be appreciated. I do stand by one person, one vote.
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one man one vote is one of the basic tenets of flemingovianism.

Just saying.
 
SC Resolution at Vote: Liberate NAZI EUROPE
http://forum.thenorthpacific.org/topic/6969414/

14 for (Chasmanthe, Cormac Stark*, Earth22 IV, Blue Wolf II, United Alesia{*}, Northern Flemingovia, KiwiTaicho, Scandigrad, McMasterdonia, Funkadelia Island, Great Bights Mum, Gladio, Eastern Hungry*, Novare Res );
5 against (Mall*, Jamie Anumia*, Ramaba*, God n Country n Byron, Ehlnar);
0 abstain;
0 present

To vote one must have a WA nation in TNP or be a TNP Citizen. One must disclose any other regions one votes on the WA resolution in. I vote for if most of the votes are in for, and against if most of the votes are against. I don't count "present" votes as votes for this. This means that a vote for abstain is a vote against my voting either way.

Zemnaya Svoboda still voting for the World Assembly Resolution "Liberate NAZI EUROPE".
 
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