Transparency

Kiwi

Kiwi

TNPer
One of my big concerns about the Council of Five is about transparency and letting the RA know about our internal workings as much as possible.

What has disgusted me, particularly with Roman and Unibot of late is this deceptive style of politics you are both undertaking. A perfect example is this: http://forum.thenorthpacific.org/topic/6942693/

It is well known that I am a Defender by nature and deed, and despise Raiderism, but if the people of the region want Raiderism, I will push for it as a result of this poll and write up legislation accordingly even though I despise it.
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This gives the impression that regardless of the outcome, he will follow the natural wishes of the RA. At least this is my interpretation. This is important to me because I was elected on my belief in the RA having the final say.

These #tnp-cabinet logs seem to say otherwise...

[15:40] <Romanoffia> Yes, it's anonymous just to see the balance in the RA.
[15:40] <Unibot> >_>
[15:41] <Unibot> I don't think you're helping your cause here.
[15:41] <Romanoffia> Remember, I can refuse to actually write the legislation and it dies there but...
[15:41] <Romanoffia> You think Flem can be funny about legislation, you ain't seen nothing yet.
[15:41] <Unibot> roman, you need to take the neutral option out :P
[15:41] <Unibot> Seriously
[15:42] <Romanoffia> Nah, it shows that neutrality is not an option in the long run.
[15:42] <Unibot> If I log on and its 15- raider, 5- defender, I'm going to slap you.
[15:42] <Romanoffia> Trust me on this, it will be epic.
[15:42] <Unibot> And frankly, I think that's whats going to happen.
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The only reason I am not pursuing fraud charges or a recall is because I don't think they would be successful. The only reason I'm not posting this in a more public forum is because I don't want to engage in that kind of mudslinging.

If I see Roman or Unibot doing this kind of thing again i will post anything I find in it's entirety.

This type of deceptive politics is disgusting. You're simply proving that you both cannot separate your defender aligned views from your role of representing those who have elected you.
 
By the way, if anyone wants to object to my publishing that portion of the meeting, do so now.

I'm not likely to listen though because there was no vote of the Council to classify that part.
 
If you are not likely to listen, why bother to ask. :P

Good to see some logs getting posted - i think we should keep private meetings only for things of a really private nature. Otherwise we are just blocking the public out of the process.
 
:agree: if the logs are posted in their entirety it's fine because there's no mudslinging.

Although I doubt anyone is going to notice it unless people draw attention to it anyway.

And yes comment by the other members of cabinet is rather lacking.
 
You know, I frankly resent my position on Defending and Raiding as being "deceptive style of politics". The only impression it gives (other than what it clearly states) is an inference you have drawn in relation to your own opinions concerning the subject.

And I object to it being published on basic principles and because I can object. ;D
 
Err... lying to the RA is your deceptive style of politics which propels your defender agenda.

If you continue to treat this as a laughing matter I will draw it to the attention of the RA. If you acknowledge your mistake in this matter I will drop it accordingly.

Edit: Keep in mind Elu has already said these logs should be posted.
 
Romanoffia:
You know, I frankly resent my position on Defending and Raiding as being "deceptive style of politics". The only impression it gives (other than what it clearly states) is an inference you have drawn in relation to your own opinions concerning the subject.

And I object to it being published on basic principles and because I can object. ;D
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Under the Directive the council adopted, all Council meeting transcripts except for those we explicitly vote to classify must be published.
 
I will be posting my original post in the private chambers of the RA in 24 hours unless anyone can give me any reason to do otherwise.
 
So when did you start working for the raiders, Kiwi?

And do you know your are gradually undermining any tolerance or willingness I have left for working with raiders?
 
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