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Recall THO's
Topic Started: Jan 22 2018, 10:14 PM (1,704 Views)
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I motion that the Regional Assembly recall Owenstacey, Sasten, and Cogoria from their position of Temporary Hearing Officers in the Request For Review dated 12/24/17.

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I think that it would assist the Assembly if the proposer were to explain the reasons as to why the motion is being made, as I should imagine that there are some in the Assembly who have not been paying quite so close attention as the proposer has to the business of the Court.
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It's "Constibillocode" not "Constibillicode".
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Jan 22 2018, 10:24 PM
I think that it would assist the Assembly if the proposer were to explain the reasons as to why the motion is being made, as I should imagine that there are some in the Assembly who have not been paying quite so close attention as the proposer has to the business of the Court.
Allow me to explain:

  • Someone appointed three people I've never heard of to handle an extremely complex and important request for review,
  • The period for brief submission closed on January 3,
  • Those people promised an answer by January 10 at the latest,
  • One of them posted on January 19 saying that RL had delayed them but failed to say when they would have an answer,
  • No one ever heard from them again,
  • ???
  • Profit!!!!
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I second your motion
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Jan 22 2018, 10:41 PM
I second your motion
The motion, having been moved and seconded, requires only the Speaker to schedule a vote.
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>>> @requires(fluff=True)

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Jan 22 2018, 10:48 PM
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Jan 22 2018, 10:41 PM
I second your motion
The motion, having been moved and seconded, requires only the Speaker to schedule a vote.
There has been no initial motion to vote.
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The rules of the Regional Assembly do not seem to require a specific motion to vote, since the rules leave much discretion to the speaker the speaker could arguably request such a motion before scheduling a vote unless the speaker chooses to schedule the vote of his own volition as the rules permit at any time.

I hereby motion that the proposal in the opening post as later motivated by the proposer be scheduled for a vote as soon as possible and request of the speaker that he schedules this vote.
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Darcania
Jan 22 2018, 11:13 PM
Mall
Jan 22 2018, 10:48 PM
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Jan 22 2018, 10:41 PM
I second your motion
The motion, having been moved and seconded, requires only the Speaker to schedule a vote.
There has been no initial motion to vote.
Ok so ignoring my motion in the OP, I motion this to a vote. Again.
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>>> @requires(fluff=True)

Mall
Jan 22 2018, 11:32 PM
Ok so ignoring my motion in the OP, I motion this to a vote. Again.
A motion for the RA to act and a motion to vote are two separate motions.

A vote has been scheduled to begin in four days.
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Jan 22 2018, 11:38 PM
Mall
Jan 22 2018, 11:32 PM
Ok so ignoring my motion in the OP, I motion this to a vote. Again.
A motion for the RA to act and a motion to vote are two separate motions.

A vote has been scheduled to begin in four days.
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now all we need is a request for review on vote scheduling or something like that and we will have a true legal and bureaucratic monstrosity
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I object to the Speaker's decision to schedule a vote. Exactly zero time has been set aside for discussion on this matter. A rush to vote is unnecessarily hasty and does not do justice to the gravity of a recall motion.
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4 days to go until the vote begins and a good discussion may draw additional objections. To kick it of, a pro and con of the motion to recall:

pro: its the only obvious way to do something as te court is missing its own timeline and there is no indication when something might happen

con: we are in uncharted legal territory here and this measure if successful may very well result in further delays as new THO's need to be found, they then need time to prepare etc, so taking our chances on the current slate may well be better and quicker
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To add my own reasoning, I strongly disagree that it's at all appropriate for the RA to throw a fit at this point.

Court decisions take time, even in the best circumstances, and RL matters can always come up (and often do). The Court endeavors to have a response within a certain amount of time, but it very very frequently takes longer than hoped for.

I was curious, so I did some digging. It has been 29 days since the request was made, on December 24th. The THOs were appointed on 12/28. So they have reasonably had 25 days to work on this so far, if we include the time for brief submission in their possible deliberation period.

On average, reviews have taken about 29 days for a decision to be rendered. This has a huge amount of variation - as low as 1-3 days, for some straightforward and urgent election-related questions (such as "should the ECs restart voting if a candidate's name is left off the ballot"), and as much as 110-113 days for a couple highly complex cases (like FOIA, or whether to strip citizenship from someone who hadn't committed a crime). The median of this list is 19 days - less than they've taken, sure, but not by a ton. And they're still in good company, with a bit over a third of all cases taking longer than 25 days to decide. Add in that they're dealing with a) a complex issue (the legality of a ruling that was issued) that has an impact on b) a second complex issue (the legality of the court accepting a request), and it's not at all surprising that they need some time to consider the facts. I'd be far more alarmed if they took no time at all to render their verdict. Rushed rulings are sloppy ones, and sloppy rulings lead to messy loopholes and legislative overrides.

Moreover, this recall is clearly just an attempt by a known rabblerouser to throw the Court into more disarray. It is concern trolling, not genuine fear for the state of the Court. If this slate of THOs were recalled, a whole new set of three would need to be appointed, and they would need to begin considering this issue from scratch once again - resulting in further delays to the actual ruling being sought. This fact belies the claim that the recall is being sought for any positive purpose.

This is a completely inappropriate circumstance in which to call for a recall. Let the Court do its job.
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Hang 'em high!

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Jan 23 2018, 01:23 AM
Moreover, this recall is clearly just an attempt by a known rabblerouser to throw the Court into more disarray. It is concern trolling, not genuine fear for the state of the Court. If this slate of THOs were recalled, a whole new set of three would need to be appointed, and they would need to begin considering this issue from scratch once again - resulting in further delays to the actual ruling being sought. This fact belies the claim that the recall is being sought for any positive purpose.

This is a completely inappropriate circumstance in which to call for a recall. Let the Court do its job.
And thus typical of politics in TNP.

I agree whole-heartedly.
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Jan 23 2018, 01:36 AM
SillyString
Jan 23 2018, 01:23 AM
Moreover, this recall is clearly just an attempt by a known rabblerouser to throw the Court into more disarray. It is concern trolling, not genuine fear for the state of the Court. If this slate of THOs were recalled, a whole new set of three would need to be appointed, and they would need to begin considering this issue from scratch once again - resulting in further delays to the actual ruling being sought. This fact belies the claim that the recall is being sought for any positive purpose.

This is a completely inappropriate circumstance in which to call for a recall. Let the Court do its job.
And thus typical of politics in TNP.

I agree whole-heartedly.
TNP has amazingly realistic politics I suppose.
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After hearing the 100% reasonable perspectives from the individuals involved, I withdraw my second.

I support keeping the discussion open for a longer time (Court stuff should ALWAYS be placed under public scrutiny) but the vote is too fast and whether the matter should be voted on at all is undecidedly questionable.
Edited by Yuno, Jan 23 2018, 02:02 AM.
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I'll throw in my objection to a vote being scheduled.
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I object to the vote being scheduled without a sufficient amount of debate being heard.
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